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August 10th, 2010, 12:49 PM
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Just to sum it up : Thursday and Friday I had a huge drop in temp followed by lots of EW CM until Sunday. I had a pos OPK on Sat, all day..on these three tests: Rite Aid Brand (but more expensive one.....14$ for 7 tests) the one from earlypregnnacytests.com...and one from a brand called Answer (that I got at Ride aid...20 strips for 15$).....Sunday my temp surged naturally .5 degrees. I had a neg opk on all tests but the Answer one....it gave me pos again. That day I took a prometirum progesterone pill of 200 mg )ob said that because i had spotting with my dd and a lil low prog in the beginning taking prog as of day 12 would at least not hurt...she also said MANY times that it would not stop O.) So I took a pill. I had a huge jump in temp on Monday past my coverline (prob from the prog) .....I beleive I had a neg opk too....but forgot which test I used. I know I should only use one...but I have used 3 brands to make sure they were accurate. The Rite Aid brand and the earlypregnancytests.com have always given me the same answer...whereaas the ANSWER one has not. (the first month off the pill I used it and it stayed pos for 5 days) I decided to stop taking the prog...(so in all..only one pill was taken Sunday)
Today I woke up and had another spike above yesterdays....but no prog taken yesterday. My cm has pretty much dried up until today when i took robitussin and had a lot of creamy cm. Because I was not sure what to believe about whether or not prog. stops Ovulation...I decided to take an opk this am with the ANSWER brand....it was POS with FMU. I was like "OH GREAT....I DIDN'T O AND NOW I'VE MESSED EVERYTHING UP AND MY OB MUST HAVE BEEN WRONG...though she insisted she wasn't.) 3 hours later I tried again and my urine was very concentrated again.....on the ANSWER brand I again got a pos...BUT....on the RITE AID MORE EXPENSIVE BRAND (I THINK ITS THE ONE COMPARED TO CLEAR BLUE)....AND THE ONE FROM EARLYPREGNANCYTESTS.COM...I got a negative! I'm soo confused!! Did I O or didn't I? I am going to bd with dh just in case today. My cm has changed though.....it is no longer EW....I had the fertile Cm for 4 days...thurs-Sunday....Sat. I had the surge.
I guess there is no way of really knowing if I O'd is there? I think I am going to have to let go of the control and let things be meant to be. I'm just so confused....
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August 10th, 2010, 01:13 PM
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It's really hard to tell. For me, the Answer brand OPK's stayed + for long after my IC's went to negative, so I just stopped taking them and trusted the IC's and they ended up being right.

I don't know anything about taking progesterone, but I don't see why a doctor would be telling you to take it without blood work or anything.

You're just going to have to watch your temperatures over the next few days. If they stay up, you will get CH's from FF letting you know you've O'd. If they go down, you'll know you haven't O'd yet.

I am not trying to be mean, but maybe the whole temping thing isn't for you? You are very obviously stressed about it all, so maybe just taking a break from it and letting things happen how they will would be the best thing for you. Unfortunately, getting pregnant isn't something we really have any control over, other than following the signals our body gives us, and if you BD'd when you had fertile CM and were getting + OPK's on all of your OPK's, then you've probably covered your bases and should just watch for any additional fertile CM while waiting to see what your temps do over the next few days. GL!
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August 10th, 2010, 01:24 PM
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Prometrium is a synthetic form of progesterone. Its generally prescribed for women who either didnt have a period in the form of Provera (take 1 pill a day, for 10 days, stop it, and then within 3 days you should start bleeding) or, women who are thought to have a progesterone defect (not enough to support pregnancy) which can result in a luteal phase defect and cause miscarriage.

Your temp. will slightly increase while taking prometrium, as it would had your body increased its own progesterone level naturally, as the increased progesterone (natural) indicates ovulation, which triggers your bodies temp. to become slightly elevated (about 3-5 degree points).

The trick w/ prometrium is that, if you are trying to see if you ovulated, you cant be on prometrium and get blood tested to see if you ovulated because naturally during your cycle, when your body produces an LH surge, its caused by an increase in progesterone. And by taking a progesterone therapy regime like prometrium, it increases the progesterone count they are looking for to see if you ovulated or not.

Generally before ovulation your progesterone is less than 3. After, any thing over 3 indicates you ovulated. When you get bloodwork to see if you ovulated, they are checking your progesterone level. By taking prometrium, it is increasing your number above 3 on its own, and so you will get told you ovulated even if you didnt, but the prometrium is giving a false reading.

Natural things occur when you ovulate: increased basal temp. being one. So, any ovulation testers or labwork will show you ovulated even if you really didnt for reasons stated above.

Prometrium or progesterone helps prepare a thick lining of your uterus in case you got pregnant, the baby had a rich, thick lining to implant inside.

The prometrium is prescribed generally as 100 mg or 200 mg initially and you are told to take it from either day 16 of your cycle or when you miss a period, in case you are pregnant.

I hope that helps some!! The best thing to do really though is to relax! Stress can cause your body to delay ovulation! Also.. everyone is different, and our bodies are different too, you probably won't be by the book! The most impotrant thing to do is to relax, bd as much as possible! Some say every other day, I say every single day you possibly can (but I like sex..hehe)! If you are stressing over this, it's going to be harder for you!!!
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August 10th, 2010, 02:59 PM
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thanks everyone...I agree that perhaps charting might not be for me bc I do stress a lot......I took the one prog pill and won't take anymore..and haven't....until I know for sure that 1, I am preg and need it...and or 2, on day 21..I will have my blood done to see what it says (since I would have only had one dose of prog 9 days before..I'm assuming the number I get will be my true number and accurate.)
I really am trying to relax, and let it be.......going with my gut, which is ALWAYS hard for me bc my mind clouds it with worries....I think that I O'd on Sunday....I think that the cheapies I got from Rite Aid weren't accurate because I have read all kinds of bad reviews...and that the other two brands I have used in addition every day (that both have had the same answer each time)...are prob more accurate. Given my temps, my cm (regardless of the prog)......and even just a feeling of "glowing and sexual" that I get when I O..I'd say this weekend it happened. I am not going to take the prog because something inside me is telling meto not fix what is not broken....even if the dr says it won't hurt. All natural here I come!!! If my temp is up there again tomorrow I will know that I O'd when I thought I did (by that time...I would think that the one dose of prog that I had two days ago would be out of my system and my new temp would be accurate)....They say that prog peaks 3-4 hours after you take it and then declines.....therefore, I even think today it was out of my system and I still got a high number. (I could see if it was lower than yesterday...but it wasn't..IT WAS HIGHER.=0) ...............
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August 10th, 2010, 03:22 PM
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oh and I took the same 3 brands opk tests again this evening and they all came out neg! I think the one test..the answer was off...this am the other two that i have been taking (i have taken 3 every day at the same time...but twice a day)...are more accurate. Generic Rite Aid ones and internet cheapies were only pos on Sat and and have both been neg since. The Rite Aid ANSWER one has had the same results except for the one this am when it gave me a pos (when the other two gave me a neg)
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