[babyofmine4]

Hi-

I use FF and TCOYF, this is only my second month using TCOYF and 3 year using FF (used it for TTC DS#1&2) We are trying for a girl but both charts are saying O day is different. Any in put would be great.

For Chart Stalkers
FF Chart:
My Ovulation Chart

TCOYF Chart:
Confussion! - TCOYF

Thanks!
Heather

I think they are disagreeing because of the CM you entered into TCOYF and the temp difference. I agree with TCOYF though. Your spotting makes CD 15 your peak day, but your temps say that you didn't O until the 16. So, I say the 16th. BTW, between FF and TCOYF, FF was off three days for me last cycle. I don't think they follow the same rules for determining ovulation. FF goes mostly with temps (from what I've seen on my charts) and TCOYF goes by both, but will go mostly with CM (on my pc chart. The beta charts last I knew still had bugs that prevented it from determining O with CM and Temps).

[babyofmine4]

Hum... I though you were past O when you temp shot up??? Should I use OPKs?? and If so what is the best?? CM on CD 16 was water for the day and changed to CM at 7:00pm, so wouldn't I be past O at that time??

Sorry so many questions.



Thanks!
Heather

To confirm O, you need a thermal shift and a cervical fluid dry up per TCOYF rules. It looks like you had a slow rise too, which can take an extra day to confirm O. Watery CM is more fertile then creamy CM, but I don't think it is as fertile as EWCM... I recommend getting the book. It does a better job at explain then I am. FF doesn't really do well with slow rise thermal shifts. I often have slow rise shifts and it always gets my O day wrong. For me, FF said I oed on CD 16 last cycle and nothing I could do could get it to change it's mind. I actually probably Oed on CD 18 because of the spotting I had that day. (I had to stop checking CM internally due to a procedure I had on CD 17, but the spotting indicated a peak/high fertility day and 12 days later AF showed up right on time. I would have been 2 days late if I went with FF)

Oh, as far as opks. I see lots of women have trouble interpreting them, so I personally wont use them anymore. But that's just me.

[babyofmine4]

Hi-

Off I go to buy the book....lol It wouldn't matter if I wasn't swaying this time. With both of my boys the last day that we bded was CD12. So that is why we did the CD10 cut off and "tried" O+12, but if TCOYF is right then we did it on O day. Which is no biggy either way we will be happy. My LP is 12-13 dpo.

Thanks!
Heather

[NutMeg76]

Watery is considered fertile and for some women is MORE fertile than EW. What did it feel like when you wiped? Any slippery sensation is fertile, even if the CM itself is creamy.

So if what you see is creamy, but feels slippery it is fertile and would be peak day.

Based on temps alone I would say CD 18, with that being the first day that was .2 degrees above the previous 6 temps. But, it could have been a slow rise and to bring it closer to your fertile CM I would say CD 16. Not knowing if the CM itself was sticky or creamy, but you maybe still had a slippery sensation it is hard to say for sure.

[babyofmine4]

Meghan-

With my C-CM I don't have a slipper sensation. I only have this with the WCM or EWCM. on CD15 the WCM pooled out of me like a "flow" and was tinged with brown, classifed as spotting. On CD16 the CM was WCM till 6 and then changed to C-CM in which was sticky so we dtd at 12pm that night. We also dtd on CD10 with C-CM was like lotion and thick. I think CD18 is to late as my cycles have been no longer the 28 day ever. Since the beginning of Feb or so the go from 25-27 days. LP is between 12-13 dpo. Like clock work.

Thanks for the help.
Heather

[NutMeg76]

The day of the watery with spotting is most likely your O day.

I agree with meghan. The day with spotting is probably the day of ovulation since it was slippery, but I also like CD 18 for temps.