Question about temps vs cm

Spyctre · #1 October 14th, 2010, 09:27 PM

My chart online has not been updated, I'm keeping one by my bed.

My temperature today was higher than the past 6 days. Yesterday, my cm was sticky at best. Midday today it was unmistakably, extremely fertile. So I'm wondering if today could be O day with the fertile mucus even if a couple more high temps would pinpoint yesterday as ovulation.

When would you think O was if you had infertile mucus at the dip and fertile during the very first temp rise?

This will be my last cycle TTC. I just found out that DD is having some major hearing problems. We were told she was probably just "saving up," and would be one of the kids that woke up speaking sentences one day. Not the case. So we'll be NTNP till she's caught up, after the tubes or medicine or earwax removal or whatever they do to make it better. I am so excited for her evaluations coming up.

I can't wait to be able to finally communicate with my girl!

ShawnaCAN · #2 October 15th, 2010, 09:07 AM

Because temps can be affected by outside variables (illness, slight fever, alcohol consumption, extra blankets, etc) - CM always trumps temps. The last day that you notice a slippery or lubricated feeling, even if you don't see any CM anymore...is the day closest to ovulation. The temps may or may not line up with that exactly.

Any one temp isn't significant by itself either, it's the overall pattern that counts.

Spyctre · #3 October 15th, 2010, 10:21 AM

I was thinking it might have been the blankets. It's hot then cold then back hot again here. My temps are all over the place. lol And I had a dip today. Kind of ready for this cycle to be over. I was in a wedding so I had some stress, and now O is delayed. I know after so many days, that nice fresh tissue in your womb isn't so fresh anymore. It's a bit late to conceive for me. =P

ShawnaCAN · #4 October 15th, 2010, 10:27 AM

The lining only builds up when estrogen levels rise in preparation for ovulation actually, so fresh lining grows whenever your body gears up to ovulate. Doesn't matter how late in the cycle that is.

Spyctre · #5 October 15th, 2010, 10:29 AM

Really? That's wonderful!

I had always read that it starts earlier in your cycle, and you should try to conceive past CD 24. I hope you're right.

ShawnaCAN · #6 October 15th, 2010, 10:40 AM

The CD24 thing is not true at all. When the ovaries become active, they produce estrogen which builds up the uterine lining, stimulates the production of CM, and stimulates the follicles in the ovaries. That can occur a few days into your cycle, several days into it, or several weeks in! Between AF and the start of the fertile phase, the ovaries are inactive, estrogen is low. That means very little is going on with the uterine lining.

I have many clients who have conceived well past CD24 and had healthy pregnancies. It's happened for me personally too, only one of our 5 children was conceived before CD24. On CD23. The rest were all conceived later and MUCH later, like CD60.

Spyctre · #7 October 15th, 2010, 11:26 AM

I'm glad you told me that. =) My first was conceived later, around CD 35 or so. I had just figured it was luck. Everything I was reading said not to try after CD 17-24. It's a relief knowing this.

ShawnaCAN · #8 October 15th, 2010, 11:37 AM

I'd like to know what you were reading!

Spyctre · #9 October 15th, 2010, 02:33 PM

Oh, my goodness... I couldn't tell you. A couple of medical sites, some old books of my mother-in-law's that I'd ditched a while back... Those books were dated. Medhelp, that's another medical site, and the only one whose name I can recall. The books had generic baby book names like "Conceive with Ease," or something like that. I haven't ever looked into newer books about conception.