[bargdill]

if i were to get pregnant and miscarry, would my chart show? i have been testing in the luteal phase but not everyday. i am asking this because i just found out yesterday about a translocated robertsonian chromosome i have which would make only a 30percent chance of a good pregnancy outcome. in othert words 70 ercent of the time if i did get pregnant the baby would either miscarry early, or have a trisomy, just wondering if this is affecting my fertility or if it is my pcos.......

[Acadia]

I think you could miss it.

I'm assuming you mean a very early miscarriage? As in, around the time AF is due or just a few days later? Maybe before you'd want to test?

If your temps go up ... and up ... and your chart is triphasic, then you'll think you might be pregnant. But not all "triphasic" charts are pregnancy charts and not all pregnancy charts are triphasic. After the uterine lining starts shedding your temp drops and you get your period. Well, I bet it would look the same if an embryo detached, the lining started to shed, and then AF started. The same dip and all. It might just look like a long luteal phase (or if it's really early, maybe even a normal luteal phase).

So let's say your chart looks triphasic. You buy a test for the next day. Your temp drops that morning, the test is negative, and the next day AF starts. How do you know whether it's a normal period or an early miscarriage? There could have been an embryo there and maybe it only produced a very little hCG before it miscarried. It wouldn't show up positive on the test. Or maybe there wasn't an embryo and it's just AF. There's really no way to know.

It's possible that 50% of pregnancies miscarry before implantation is fully finished anyway, and most of those women have no idea they've had a miscarriage or that they were ever pregnant. I will have to find it but I read somewhere that in fertile couples, fertilization actually occurs in 60% of their cycles. Now you know those women don't get pregnant 60% of all their unprotected cycles. Either the embryo doesn't implant, doesn't implant properly and is miscarried, or implants but miscarries a few days/weeks later before the woman is aware of the pregnancy.

So I would say with a chromosomal abnormality and PCOS, you still aren't that much worse off than most of the rest of us. Any of us could miscarry without knowing it, during any cycle. Probably almost as often as you might and possibly even for the same or a similar reason (genetic abnormalities aren't always hereditary ... some are just random mutations).

Don't lose hope. You have one child (a beautiful one, btw!) so obviously it can happen for you. You are not totally sterile by any means.

[bargdill]

thanks, i guess i am just trying to find out if i am indeed getting pregnant but the egg is not good. or if my pcos is keeping me from getting pregnant. see what i mean.......

[Acadia]

Yeah, the wondering definitely sucks. But the way I see it, me, you, and everyone else here wonders the same thing with every AF.

Okay, well maybe not all of us, but that's because the rest haven't realized that you can miscarry without knowing it.

The only thing I can think of, is maybe to see if your eggs can be analyzed to see what percentage of them really aren't viable at all. That would surely be pricey though and I don't even know if it's possible. In-vitro is an option though if you can ever afford it, right? That way the ones that aren't viable just wouldn't be implanted.

Just some thoughts I had. I hope you get your BFP soon.

[drewbears]

Yes you could.

Even if its considered a chemical pg, that in my mind is still a pg, its just a VERY early loss.

With a chemical pg/early m/c your temps would be up and AF may come a day late or even on time. But the question is did you get a faint + test or did you have pg symtoms?

Yes you could.

Even if its considered a chemical pg, that in my mind is still a pg, its just a VERY early loss.

With a chemical pg/early m/c your temps would be up and AF may come a day late or even on time. But the question is did you get a faint + test or did you have pg symtoms?[/b]

Also... I have had early m/c like that when I did start bleeding it is different from a normal pg, it was REALLY heavy and at times I had cramping feeling like contractions and I did have clots as well.

[bargdill]

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Yes you could.

Even if its considered a chemical pg, that in my mind is still a pg, its just a VERY early loss.

my last to periods were heavier than usual but my periods are never very heavy. also, last cycle i spotted on and off for weeks after my period ended. i never got a pos test i might test more this cycle just to see if i could be missing something...