[dunndrop]

http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1b97a4

This is my chart. By looking at this chart I would think that I am pregnant. I hvaen't getten my period. I am two days late. I am having some syptoms like fuller bbs, kinda tender but not as much as yesterday, today I am having more frequent urination and I am nauseas on and off. What do you guys think? All of the HPT keep coming back negative. I don't know what I should do? Call the doc, or wait it out a few more days and see if I get a BFP.

[tmuise1]

Are you using First morning urine? You could go ahead and ask youir doctor for a blood test though.

[dunndrop]

Yea, I wake up every morning at 7:30 and take my temp, then go poas.

[Tiff802]

I agree, you could get a blood test done. Can you tell us a little about yourself? Were you on birth control pills before? Was this your first month charting? How long have you been TTC? Any other helpful info would be wonderful!

[NutMeg76]

I don't think you O'd when FF says you did, why do you have open circles a few days after the O FF gives you? I almost think you didn't O until CD 28.

[~Jess~]

I don't think you O'd when FF says you did, why do you have open circles a few days after the O FF gives you? I almost think you didn't O until CD 28.[/b]

I think the only reason ff has your ch there is because of the fertile cm. If you removed that, ff would most likely move your ch to cd28.

I agree with Jess and MEghan, I think you O'd on CD28

[sjkduke]

I agree, I think there's a pretty good chance that you Od on CD 28, though I wonder what would happen if you remove the temps with the open circles.

GOOD LUCK!!!

[dunndrop]

No, it said that I ovulated that day before i put the EWCM in. I went back and put that in later to see if it would do anything different. I am pretty sure that i ovulated that day, since that was the day that I was SUPPOSED to ovulate, and my temps went up after that date. The days with the open circles, i didn't wake up till 9:30 and that was my temp then. That is why they are a little higher then usual.

This is our third month trying, I am almost one hundred percent sure that I O'ed on the 28th like it says I did(CD20). The other up and down in temp is from waking up at a different time.

One thing that makes me wonder, is that a few days ago I got my normal AF symptoms, I broke out, had cramps, alot of lower back pain, sore bbs. Now all of that is gone, except for the sore bbs, and they are more sore then a few days ago. Usually, I get all those symptoms leading up to AF and then get heavier cramps when she gets here and they last a couple of days. Now nothing...they are all gone. My fiance also says that he thinks my bbs are a little fuller and bigger. Coming out of a bra that usually fit fine.

No i wasn't on birth control. Haven't been for over a year.

[~Jess~]

I am pretty sure that i ovulated that day, since that was the day that I was SUPPOSED to ovulate, and my temps went up after that date.[/b]

Are you on some form of fertility drugs that make you o on a specific day? I'm a little confused as to how you know "100%" that you were "SUPPOSED" to ovulate on that particular day.

As far as the symptoms, they sound promising, I hope this is it for you.

[dunndrop]

Are you on some form of fertility drugs that make you o on a specific day? I'm a little confused as to how you know "100%" that you were "SUPPOSED" to ovulate on that particular day.

As far as the symptoms, they sound promising, I hope this is it for you.
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No, I am not on fertility drugs, seeing as I have only been trying for three months, that wouldn't make much sense.

1. The 28th was fourteen days before I was supposed to start my period
2. I always get ovulation cramping
3. The EWCM and my temps suggest thats the day I ovulated.

There are three solid reasons.

[~Jess~]

No, I am not on fertility drugs, seeing as I have only been trying for three months, that wouldn't make much sense.

1. The 28th was fourteen days before I was supposed to start my period
2. I always get ovulation cramping
3. The EWCM and my temps suggest thats the day I ovulated.

There are three solid reasons.[/b]

I don't know if it's your intention, but you're coming across rather rudely, but I will respond anyway.

#1. Although 14 days is "textbook" most women do not fall under that category.

#2. Ovulation cramping is a wonderful indication, but unfortunately since it can occur before, during, and after it is not 100% reliable. For example, I had 6 days of o pains this month. ETA: It also isn't uncommon for your body to gear up to o with o pains & ewcm & pos. opk but then have your ovulation delayed due to some outside issue, whether traveling, illness, stress, etc.

#3. The temps do not suggest that you ovulated, unfortunately. Using a temp corrector, your 9:30 temps (usually taken at 7:30) would be corrected down from 98.3 to 97.9, which doesn't show a biphasic pattern until cd28. The presence of EWCM so many days after your supposed o date suggests that you did not ovulate when ff suggests that you did. EWCM dries up completely after o. Some women experience it 1 day after o, but most do not, and it is nearly unheard of to continue to have ewcm for a full 4 days after o'ing unless you were on some type of medication to encourage production of it.

I'm not trying to be rude in any way, and none of this means that you're not pregnant, BUT you are most likely only 8 dpo which would be too early for a bfp. Hopefully you'll get your bfp in another 4-5 days.

I highly recommend "Taking Charge of Your Fertility" as it will explain all of your fertility signs in depth and is a very empowering as well as enlightening book.

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No, I am not on fertility drugs, seeing as I have only been trying for three months, that wouldn't make much sense.

1. The 28th was fourteen days before I was supposed to start my period
2. I always get ovulation cramping
3. The EWCM and my temps suggest thats the day I ovulated.

There are three solid reasons.[/b]

I don't know if it's your intention, but you're coming across rather rudely, but I will respond anyway.

#1. Although 14 days is "textbook" most women do not fall under that category.

#2. Ovulation cramping is a wonderful indication, but unfortunately since it can occur before, during, and after it is not 100% reliable. For example, I had 6 days of o pains this month. ETA: It also isn't uncommon for your body to gear up to o with o pains & ewcm & pos. opk but then have your ovulation delayed due to some outside issue, whether traveling, illness, stress, etc.

#3. The temps do not suggest that you ovulated, unfortunately. Using a temp corrector, your 9:30 temps (usually taken at 7:30) would be corrected down from 98.3 to 97.9, which doesn't show a biphasic pattern until cd28. The presence of EWCM so many days after your supposed o date suggests that you did not ovulate when ff suggests that you did. EWCM dries up completely after o. Some women experience it 1 day after o, but most do not, and it is nearly unheard of to continue to have ewcm for a full 4 days after o'ing unless you were on some type of medication to encourage production of it.

I'm not trying to be rude in any way, and none of this means that you're not pregnant, BUT you are most likely only 8 dpo which would be too early for a bfp. Hopefully you'll get your bfp in another 4-5 days.

I highly recommend "Taking Charge of Your Fertility" as it will explain all of your fertility signs in depth and is a very empowering as well as enlightening book.
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:agree: I totally agree with Jess. Not every woman is textbook and charting will help you learn your cycles. Definitely read TCOYF and also take FF's charting course

[Admin-pattyandthemoos]

I agree I think you ovulated later than you think you did. Your temps with the open circles I wouldn't count because there is just no way they could be accurate being taken that late. I also wanted to add that I was just like you I thought I knew exactly when I ovulated and I would have never thought in a million years that I would ovulate as late in my cycle as I have. You really can't predict ovulation based on your symptoms. I have o pains on my chart that started long before I actually ovulated. I still think you have a really good shot at being pregnant but I do not think your o date from ff is accurate. You have EWCM marked on your chart for several days after you are marked as ovulating. Your cm should dry up after you ovulate and if you are still having fertile cm after you ovulate then you probably didn't ovulate.

Try to stay positive! Your chart still looks really good and I still think you could be pregnant but this would explain why you are still getting bfns.

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No, I am not on fertility drugs, seeing as I have only been trying for three months, that wouldn't make much sense.

1. The 28th was fourteen days before I was supposed to start my period
2. I always get ovulation cramping
3. The EWCM and my temps suggest thats the day I ovulated.

There are three solid reasons.[/b]

I don't know if it's your intention, but you're coming across rather rudely, but I will respond anyway.

#1. Although 14 days is "textbook" most women do not fall under that category.

#2. Ovulation cramping is a wonderful indication, but unfortunately since it can occur before, during, and after it is not 100% reliable. For example, I had 6 days of o pains this month. ETA: It also isn't uncommon for your body to gear up to o with o pains & ewcm & pos. opk but then have your ovulation delayed due to some outside issue, whether traveling, illness, stress, etc.

#3. The temps do not suggest that you ovulated, unfortunately. Using a temp corrector, your 9:30 temps (usually taken at 7:30) would be corrected down from 98.3 to 97.9, which doesn't show a biphasic pattern until cd28. The presence of EWCM so many days after your supposed o date suggests that you did not ovulate when ff suggests that you did. EWCM dries up completely after o. Some women experience it 1 day after o, but most do not, and it is nearly unheard of to continue to have ewcm for a full 4 days after o'ing unless you were on some type of medication to encourage production of it.

I'm not trying to be rude in any way, and none of this means that you're not pregnant, BUT you are most likely only 8 dpo which would be too early for a bfp. Hopefully you'll get your bfp in another 4-5 days.

I highly recommend "Taking Charge of Your Fertility" as it will explain all of your fertility signs in depth and is a very empowering as well as enlightening book.
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I don't think she was trying to come accross rude. I think she is just new to charting. I thought that I ovulated regularly and used the 14 day back method at one point in my life. Now that I have actually charted my cycle I really get it and understand that you don't ovulate when you *think* you do a lot of the time.

I hope you will stick around! There are a lot of girls on this board that know a lot about charting and if you stick around you will learn a lot! GOOD LUCK to you!

[dunndrop]

Just thought I would let all of you guys know, I know when I ovulated, it was the CD 20, not 28, It makes no sense to ovulate CD 28 because my cycles are not THAT long, yes they are on the long side, but only 34 days, not 40+.

I did get my BFP today, 17 dpo. Incase any of you actually care. There were some nice people that left comments, and I thank you for that.

I didn't come on here to find out when I ovulated, I knew that, and all you guys could tell me was...NO YOU DIDN'T OVULATE THAT DAY!!
Im not going into that anymore, i don't care when I ovulated. I got my BFP.

For anyone who is interested my symptoms were as follows:
1-12 dpo- Not much except for a little fatigue
12-14 dpo- started to feel AF symptoms, backache, broke out, cramps. Eating ALOT more, and very sleepy in the evening.
14 dpo night- AF syptoms gone. Nothing except for feeling tired and always hungry
15-16 dpo- Very sleepy, Very iritable and very hungry but feeling sick after I eat. And when I start to get hungry, when my stomach is empty, that is when i feel really sick too.

GL to all!

[Admin-pattyandthemoos]

Just thought I would let all of you guys know, I know when I ovulated, it was the CD 20, not 28, It makes no sense to ovulate CD 28 because my cycles are not THAT long, yes they are on the long side, but only 34 days, not 40+.

I did get my BFP today, 17 dpo. Incase any of you actually care. There were some nice people that left comments, and I thank you for that.

I didn't come on here to find out when I ovulated, I knew that, and all you guys could tell me was...NO YOU DIDN'T OVULATE THAT DAY!!
Im not going into that anymore, i don't care when I ovulated. I got my BFP.

For anyone who is interested my symptoms were as follows:
1-12 dpo- Not much except for a little fatigue
12-14 dpo- started to feel AF symptoms, backache, broke out, cramps. Eating ALOT more, and very sleepy in the evening.
14 dpo night- AF syptoms gone. Nothing except for feeling tired and always hungry
15-16 dpo- Very sleepy, Very iritable and very hungry but feeling sick after I eat. And when I start to get hungry, when my stomach is empty, that is when i feel really sick too.

GL to all! [/b]

Well I will respectfully disagree with you. I am happy you got your bfp but it is quite possible to get a bfp at 10 dpo. Regardless of when you o'd we were all trying to be helpful. You have been a little defensive on the subject and not quite sure why. Good luck with your pregnancy but please understand that we are all very educated on charting, we even have members on JM that are qualified instructors. So when we give you information we aren't doing it just to be snippy or argumentative we are trying to help. I still think your o date may be off. It is really hard to say for sure with your temp time being so late. I think if your o date was when you thought it was you would have gotten a bfp sooner. I think you had a delayed ovulation and I think that is why you just now got your bfp. I am very happy for you!!! We were trying to be helpful and I am sorry that you are taking things the wrong way.

GOOD LUCK with your pregnancy!

[dunndrop]

I am not taking offense to it. Its just that....ok

My cycles are 34 days. If i ovulated on CD 28 then that would make my LP 6 days...that isnt long enough. If I ovulated on CD 20, like FF says, and like I think, then that would make a LP of 14 days...right on track. So that makes sense. Your way would put my cycle length at WAY to long. And how do explain all of that, and the fact that I got AF symptoms two days before my scheduled period? Your way just doesn't add up. Maybe I am leaving something out, or there is something that I just can't put into words. But I know when I ovulated. You can believe me or not, I don't care. I got a BFP!

[Admin-pattyandthemoos]

I am not taking offense to it. Its just that....ok

My cycles are 34 days. If i ovulated on CD 28 then that would make my LP 6 days...that isnt long enough. If I ovulated on CD 20, like FF says, and like I think, then that would make a LP of 14 days...right on track. So that makes sense. Your way would put my cycle length at WAY to long. And how do explain all of that, and the fact that I got AF symptoms two days before my scheduled period? Your way just doesn't add up. Maybe I am leaving something out, or there is something that I just can't put into words. But I know when I ovulated. You can believe me or not, I don't care. I got a BFP![/b]

I think you could be right but with your temps being off and your cm being off you could just as easily be wrong. You were two or three days late before you got your bfp? I know that I have tested positive as early as 4 days early. I just think that this would explain why you didn't test positive when you thought you would. It happens people have off cycles. I normally have a regular 28 day cycle myself but my o date is not when I thought it would be.