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December 7th, 2012, 06:58 AM
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I was in the July ddc, but got more bad news yesterday. This past Wednesday I should have been 10w. I was going to see a midwife group for a "normal" experience. Last year we had a loss. It was a missed m/c confirmed by many u/s & blood tests. I waiting to m/c "naturally" but after weeks, took cytotec- ended up hemorrhaging- and got a d&c.

With this preg I didn't want any early u/s bc that was so traumatic last time. So I'd had my initail physical exam and was reassured bc at least i had preg symptoms. Then 2 d ago I started having cramps, no bleeding. Midwife said I could come in to try and find heartbeat with Doppler. She gave it a good try with no success. And some how I knew that something bad had happened. I consented for an u/s. by 10w there's no denying what's inside you.

The u/s revealed a blighted ovum. My crazy bday has no idea there's no baby in there and still thinks I'm preg. So 2x my body has not recognized loss. And 2x there's a questionable embryo.

I'm scared to get another d&c. Bc it hurts, and bc I'm scared to have my cervix damaged in case i ever get to carry. Yet waiting didn't help me last time.

I'm following up with midwife today about next steps. I'm writing for support bc I feel alone in my sadness.
-kristy
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December 7th, 2012, 11:15 AM
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*hugs* I'm so sorry for your losses Kristy.

I've only had one surgical loss, I too am concerned with how many times they can open my cervix before there could be issues.

A few of the girls here I think have had more than one D&C, and a blighted ovum or two. I've never had one, but I think personally if they could do genetic testing on a Blighted Ovum I'd do a D&C to try and get answers.

*hugs* again sweetie.
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December 7th, 2012, 11:18 AM
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*hugs* I'm so sorry
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December 7th, 2012, 12:01 PM
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I'm so sorry. I don't think a second d&c would have that much of an effect on your cervix. I mean, when people have babies, their cervix opens to 10 cm, much larger than when they do a d&c. And people, well at least some people, can have lots of babies. I, too, have had two miscarriages, and neither time did my body recognize it, so I've been there. Again, I'm so sorry.
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December 7th, 2012, 12:50 PM
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Thanks Ashley, Jen, & Daisee37. I appreciate your thoughts. I know you're sincere which is very comforting. I'm sorry that the reason we're getting to meet is bc we've each been here. May each of our hopes be one day closer to coming true. -K
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December 8th, 2012, 12:48 AM
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I am so sorry for your losses. I have had to wait out a loss before too. For me it took about 4 weeks that time. Until your HcG levels come done, your body isn't likely to trigger to process. I am sorry for your scary process before with cytotec. I have read before that cytotec runs a risk of hemorrhage. :/ How scary for you. If you are worried about your potential risks of repeat D&C's discuss it with your Dr. I think the bigger risk is scarring of the uterus over damage to the cervix. That is just based on my reading & research trying to find my own answers & figure out what was "right" for me. We EACH have to find the"right" for us though. I am sure you will figure out what you feel most comfortable with- as if "comfortable" is even a word you can use in this process.

Much love to you!
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December 9th, 2012, 10:58 PM
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I am so sorry. I did have a blighted ovum and since i have two normal pregnancies. The nice thing about a blighted ovum is that it is a non reoccurant thing unlike some other issues that can cause a loss.
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December 10th, 2012, 07:38 AM
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Thanks beck12. I agree. Although I fear the cervical damage, ashermans syndrome would be the greater evil in my opinion.

Nicole, thank you for the note of hope, that is a "happy song" to my thoughts.

Ashely, I asked about genetic testing. Unfortunately it's not an option with blighted ovum bc there is absence of the embryo in this condition. The two schools of thought I found are: (1) gametes did not contain sufficient genetic info therefore the gestational sac formed but embryo didn't, or (2) because of abn, the forming embryo may have been dissolved by mother.
My medical providers are "selling" point #1, but I'm choosing to believe point #2. I'd rather believe there was a baby & nature had other plans for her.

Tomorrow Ill call to follow up with midwife group. I'm thunking to go ahead and schedule d&c for wed. Ill keep posting.
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December 10th, 2012, 12:11 PM
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*hugs*

I wasn't sure if it was possible or not. I've never had a Blighted Ovum, my first loss was done via suction (I'd much rather have been knocked out) and every loss since then has been natural.
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December 13th, 2012, 09:38 PM
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I followed up and ended up taking cytotec again. The OB recommended trying the medicine rather than surgery if I'm concerned about any "damage". And OB also said that scaring is a risk with d&c not cervical damage. So today I took med and it's been a terrible day. The symptoms were everything I was told to expect. I don't believe I'd choose this path again. I go back to OB within 2w to check u/s to make sure there it's complete. Thank you for your kind words and support.
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December 13th, 2012, 10:24 PM
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I followed up and ended up taking cytotec again. The OB recommended trying the medicine rather than surgery if I'm concerned about any "damage". And OB also said that scaring is a risk with d&c not cervical damage. So today I took med and it's been a terrible day. The symptoms were everything I was told to expect. I don't believe I'd choose this path again. I go back to OB within 2w to check u/s to make sure there it's complete. Thank you for your kind words and support.
I'm so sorry it's been difficult today. How are your symptoms now? You should physically feel much better tomorrow. I haven't taken meds, but I tried to embrace the physically painful parts of loss because they seem to me to mirror the emotionally difficult parts. To me the physical part felt like it validated what my heart was feeling.

Huge hugs momma!
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December 14th, 2012, 12:51 AM
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I'm so sorry sweetie. I hope you feel physically better tomorrow, and that there are no extra side effects this time for you.
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