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August 3rd, 2006, 09:46 PM
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hi ladies. i am so confused and would love any information you all can give me. A brief background, 1 m/c at age of 16, 1 ectopic age 20, 1 m/c age 20, now 1 possible pregnancy loss age 21. I have semi irregular periods (always between 28-35 day cycles) bc i had a m/c in dec and i had my left tube taken out last summer. I am unsure how far along I would have been but I believe I should have had a 35 day cycle this past month. I had started lightly bleeding old blood on July 24th, cd 34 and on cd 36 I got 3 positive pregnancy tests. They definately had color and were 2 different brands. I kept spotting (always old no tissue)on and off for a few days. On July 28th, I had my first dr appointment. They did a urine test and it came back negative (which i found out on July 31st) and they drew blood. On the early morning of August 1st I started cramping and went into the ER. They drew blood and the results came back as less then 2, so he said i was probably miscarrying. I called my dr I saw the 28th and he said his blood tests came back less then 2 also. He told me he doesnt think I was ever pregnant and he doesnt know why I had positive pregnancy tests. He said for me to get a positive then 2 days later (36 hrs) get a negative blood test was out of the question bc hcg doesnt leave the body that quick, which i semi agree with. Now I am on cd 44 and I have only spotted 2 times (since er visit), both old blood. I have also had increased cm. Any ideas on what is going on? I took another pregnancy test to see if there was something in my urine setting off the tests (drs request) and it was negative. If it was a chemical pregnancy how did the hcg get out of my system so fast? Also, is my body obsorbing the pregnancy and that is why I am not bleeding? I would think since my hcg has been below 2 for a week my body would have started to m/c or something by now. I am so confused! I know you ladies have been through a lot and i thank you for taking the time out to read this. Also, of course I am not asking for medical advice just personal experiences/idea/thoughts on my situation.
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August 3rd, 2006, 11:29 PM
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Hi there sweetie...i am so sorry for your losses. As for this latest situation...maybe I'm wrong and someone else migh have more info (like Beck12???she's good at researching things for us) but if you were never pg wouldn't your hcg be at 0?? I think it would be odd to get 2 different positive pg tests. One false positive maybe but 2? That's a bit far streatched to not have been pg at all. My understanding of a chemical pg is that most of the time you don't even know you were pg because when you bleed it is similar to a normal period, thus never making a woman think twice. In your case due to the pg tests you knew.
In this long road of ttc adn losses I have found that contrary to beliefs, Dr's don't always know everything. they base their professional opinions on what is "the norm"...I have also found that regualr OBGYN's aren't the most informed either. I always say, anyone can stand at the end of the table and catch a baby on it's way out. for women like you and I we need tests and most of all we need answers...not some wishy wahsy "most of the time" crap ykwim? I suggest getting into see an RE to look further into your repeated losses, as well as ask about what might have happened this last time. I bet you'll find there is a small chance you really could have had a chemical pg.
I wish you some rest and peace during this confusing and sad time. Know we're here for you and welcome you anytime.
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August 3rd, 2006, 11:47 PM
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hey thank you for helping! it means a lot. i dont have insurance atm so i wont be able to go in for any testing or anything any time soon. i just don't get what my body is doing. i figured i was pregnant, but almost tried to hold out hope i wasnt bc it hurts to have lost another child that i loved instantly. i knew with 3 positive tests something had to be up. so since i probably was pregnant, do you have any ideas what i havent passed anything/gotten a "period" yet?
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August 4th, 2006, 03:49 AM
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I'm so sorry about your losses.

I, too, had a similar situation with my last loss. I had actually gone back on the pill, but got a ++ hpt. It was very faint, but still positive. The dr ordered blood work a few days after my BFP and my HCG was .6. My dr just figured it was a chemical, considering my past history with chemical pregnancies.

I'm sorry that I can't give you any more information.
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August 4th, 2006, 08:47 AM
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First, I'm so very sorry for all your losses. You've really been through a lot in a short time.

I think it's very likely that your body absorbed the latest pg. I have a friend who experienced that repeatedly for about 6 years. They never figured out why that was happening, but she did wind up with a beautiful DD eventually. As for the hcg levels, if you happened to test early, your levels would've been just high enough to show positive on the test so they could have dropped fairly quickly. That's what happened with my first loss.

Glad you found us. Feel free to post anytime. The ladies here are wonderful.
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August 4th, 2006, 11:34 AM
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I agree that your body could have absorbed the pg...you said you spotted right? Perhaps that is all that will happen this month and next month your cycle may return? It is so confusing I know and I wish I could give you definites but I can't. Just know we can't place our bodies in "boxes" as the medical profession so often does and that in actuality we are very complex beings and our bodies react differently all the time.
Do you anticipate having health insurance soon? What about medi-caid?
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August 4th, 2006, 03:21 PM
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I, unlike your Dr, believe you would have HAD to be pg in order to get a + test result...especially if it went back to negative. I personally got a vary faint positive with one pg, went to the Dr the following day & they drew blood & got a 10....so the Dr assumed I was probably mc'ing since having a 10 in blood shouldn't have given me a + the day before & I didn't use first morning urine either. I don't know why it came back positive, but it did, & I wasn't mc'ing, my numbers went up from there - so I KNOW you can get a + test at very low numbers, although it is rare. If your #'s had been in that range 10-20 & you got a BFP, I don't see why it couldn't be negative 2 days later - your HcG can fall that fast. I went from an 84 to a zero in 4 days....so it stands to reason you could do 40 to zero in 2.

As for why you haven't bled yet - this may be all you get. It was very very early & if your body reabsorbed, I thin it can throw your hormones off a bit. It would almost be nicer to have bled more, t would give you a definite answer. I am also sorry that you don' thave insurance, because I would like for htem to do a trans/vag u/s on you to make sure you aren't retaining any tissue or fluids for any reason.

I wish I could tell you that I think you weren't pg - but from everything I know it sounds like you were. I am sorry for this & all you rlosses. I know how hard it is & even worse not having medical coverage to have it all checked out. Just so you know though - generlaly chemical pg isn't thought to be related to most other causes for mc - so I was told by my RE that a chemical pg doesn't add increased risk to future pg's unless you have a pattern of them. I know that isn' tmuch help - but it's hte only silver liing I have to offer on this one.

Much love & welcome to our group. I hope you find answers & understanding here.
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August 4th, 2006, 05:54 PM
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I think the other ladies have pretty much said it all, but I wanted to offer my support and say that I'm so sorry for all you've been through. We're always here if you want to talk.
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August 4th, 2006, 07:10 PM
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hi ladies, thanks for all the help and support, i am not getting ANY at my mom's house or from any of my family so it is nice to be able to know i am able to talk to you all. i have been bloated for almost a week now, no more spotting, but very bloated. slight cramps on and off but that is it and they have been going on almost a week now. i really really appreciate all the help and kind words! do you suggest that i go to the dr anyways to make sure everything is ok or should i wait to see if my next period comes. i told them at the er i have been light headed and they didnt seem to worry about that, but it has gotten a little worse. i really cant afford even the bills i have now with the drs. i think i may try and get into the free clinic the next town over. thanks everyone!
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August 5th, 2006, 08:50 AM
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Sweetie I think you should get a pelvic exam, especially with what you are describing. It is never okay to feel "funny" and not get it checked. It is possible that many things are going on & you never want to risk your health. If you have the option of going to the Dr - definitely go!
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My mom is a neverending song in my heart of comfort, happiness, and being. I may sometimes forget the words but I always remember the tune. ~Graycie Harmon
Don't wait to make your son a great man - make him a great boy. ~Author Unknown
You don't raise heroes, you raise sons. And if you treat them like sons, they'll turn out to be heroes, even if it's just in your own eyes. ~Walter M. Schirra, Sr.
A man loves his sweetheart the most, his wife the best, but his mother the longest. ~Irish Proverb
Mother's love is peace. It need not be acquired, it need not be deserved. ~Erich Fromm
Children need love, especially when they do not deserve it. - Harold Hulbert
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August 5th, 2006, 09:00 AM
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I agree sweetie to go see the dr. I am not sure where you live but here in CA if you go in to the ER and do not have insur. you can apply on the spot for emergency medi-caid which will cover that one visit. And if you can get over to the free clinic that may be even better because they will probably spend a bit more investigative time with you. Let us know if you go. We're thinking of you!
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August 5th, 2006, 07:32 PM
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I also had a chemcial pregnant june 18. 05 I lost the baby. I had very faint + for a hole week they stayed faint but they were they and they were pink, the day i started bleeding loseing the baby it was neg no faint no nothing so i new something was up. My doctor told me i was seeing things but after loseing the baby, i got a fever i was dead sick, weak i could move i had cold chills, i have had 4 babies so no one is going to tell me im seeing things.
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August 6th, 2006, 02:58 PM
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hi ladies, sorry i have been offline for a couple of days. i have no idea how i am going to get into the dr and no idea when ill be able to get in. last nite i had sex and it was slightly uncomforetable at times, barely though. i have had PID before from a yeast infection so i know how PID feels and it isnt like that. just felt the same during the pelvic exam i got when i went to the er, slightly tender. since i am not bleeding or spotting sex is ok isnt it? that is what i had always been told at least bc that means ur cervix isnt open.... hrm. I will call on monday and see when i get into the free clinic. thanks ladies!
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since i am not bleeding or spotting sex is ok isnt it?[/b]
It should be, but if it's uncomfortable at all you might want to take it easy for a few more days.
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