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January 10th, 2009, 07:27 PM
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So have you all heard of the newest cervical induction procedure? EASI (Extra Amniotic Saline-solution Infusion or foley induction) its where they insert a foley catheter into your cervix and then fill the tip of the cath up (slowly over time) with water so that it puts pressure on your cervix! (acting like a baby's head to open the cervix). It involves no medication and your allowed freedom to still move around and such! I think its a brilliant idea but of course its new so who knows yet....but the latest and greatest research has great findings. Since I'm not longer in the hospital I was wondering how often women are seeing this now....because its now an option at my midwives if you are going past 42 weeks and need an induction! HECK yeah I would take that over the drugs! The biggest risk so far from it---early non-spontaneous rupture of membranes from the extra pressure (which heck many places do to start labor anyway)

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January 10th, 2009, 07:43 PM
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I've heard of it and have seen many women induced with it. Typically it's used if you are not dilated already and often is a precursor to a medical induction.

I think it carries a risk of causing your sac to rupture so it's an "irreversible" induction sometimes.

I agree though, I'd take it over medical induction if I had to have one. I just worry about starting the "clock ticking" ya know?
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January 11th, 2009, 06:23 AM
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^ ditto!

It would still be a last resort for me but definitely a first choice over a medical induction.
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January 11th, 2009, 06:54 AM
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same as what others have said... but I've never seen it used before yet in my hospitals, so I'm not sure....
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January 11th, 2009, 07:26 AM
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very interesting.....
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January 11th, 2009, 07:44 AM
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A few of the women in my July 05 DDC (not on JM) were induced this way.
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January 11th, 2009, 08:52 AM
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I just heard about this recently. It is definitely interesting and something to be considered over medical induction methods/procedures but as with any I guess you have to weigh out the risks since there's no turning back.
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January 11th, 2009, 09:28 AM
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I'd take it over drugs for sure, but not a day before 42 weeks.
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January 11th, 2009, 11:12 AM
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is it something that could be done in the birth center, not in the hospital? I guess that is a question for the midwives. My two biggest fears are a breech that will not turn (they will not deliver breech at our BC) or going VERY late. I just had a patient who was planning a home birth go 17 days past her due date and have to be induced in the hospital
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January 11th, 2009, 06:00 PM
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is it something that could be done in the birth center, not in the hospital? I guess that is a question for the midwives. My two biggest fears are a breech that will not turn (they will not deliver breech at our BC) or going VERY late. I just had a patient who was planning a home birth go 17 days past her due date and have to be induced in the hospital [/b]
My birthing center midwife is who I found out about it from!!!!!! I would like to try it as my first medical intervention at 41 weeks 6 days if I got that long (at 42 the birthing center boots you to the hospital )
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January 11th, 2009, 06:42 PM
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Very interesting. I agree with the others, I'd definitely do it as a last resort over Pitocin or other form of a medical induction.
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January 11th, 2009, 07:19 PM
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never heard of it before. But it sounds awesome!
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January 11th, 2009, 08:43 PM
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It seems kind of risky to me, actually. The cervix was designed to open with pressure coming from down not up, kwim? Plus you wouldn't have the hormonal changes that are needed to start labor so I'd be afraid that it would still have the same problems that other methods of induction do, as well as possibly irritating the cervix and causing problems.
Just my ideas based on what I know of birth physiology... maybe I'm wrong and it has a good record.
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January 11th, 2009, 09:18 PM
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It seems kind of risky to me, actually. The cervix was designed to open with pressure coming from down not up, kwim? Plus you wouldn't have the hormonal changes that are needed to start labor so I'd be afraid that it would still have the same problems that other methods of induction do, as well as possibly irritating the cervix and causing problems.
Just my ideas based on what I know of birth physiology... maybe I'm wrong and it has a good record. [/b]
No your right on the physiology. The foley goes into your uterus (via slightly opened cervix) just a little and then the bulb is filled slowly (bulb is in your uterus so its acting like a babies head by putting pressure on the top of your cervix pushing down).
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January 11th, 2009, 10:01 PM
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speaking from experience. don't do it.

just don't do anything.

i lost my VBAC because of this method. I too was thinking of it as a way to "naturally" start things along since I had been in labor for 24 hours, lost my plug, had bloddy show and only dilated 1 cm.

I am a reasearch queen and hadn't found anything on the negative side of this foley method. I went for it and right away went to 3 cm, but unfortunately it broke my water immediately after I stood up. I thought that was exciting and a good thing. Until I hit 7 cm and stayed there. For 14 hours. 7 hours after hitting 7cm, it was realized that Kairi had been sideways and when my water broke prematurely and she didn't have room to move. When my water broke, it brought her head down into my cervix transversly with her shoulder. I labored naturally with my doula and dh for 7 hours at 7 cm, walking, lunging, birth ball, resting, squatting...everything in my darn power to help her turn. My very supportive doc even offered to turn her manually if I made it to 10cm. Unfortunately she was tangled too much. Part of her head was at a 1, part of it at 0. She tried her hardest, her heartrate was fine. She was just forced down too early. After 24 hours of the foley being put in, 14 hours of solid 7 cm, I ended up with a c-section. This c-section was necessary because of the resulting situation, but was UNneccessary because the foley should NEVER have been put in. I regret it with every bit of my soul.

The water is VERY valuable to the babies so that they can prepare. Premature rupture can change things.

Stay away from all interventions.
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January 12th, 2009, 05:58 AM
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After reading Val's personal experience I think I would try it before other methods of induction if there was a medical necessity for induction in the first place, like PE or something like that. Otherwise I will wait.
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no problem. I'm not totally happy with the outcome, but I just figure God gave me these experiences because I have a big mouth and will share about them.

Last resort, better than medicine definitely, but not just because labor isn't happenig soon enough.
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After reading Val's personal experience I think I would try it before other methods of induction if there was a medical necessity for induction in the first place, like PE or something like that. Otherwise I will wait.[/b]
Same here, but ONLY if (like preeclampsia, etc.)
I would NEVER be induced with pitocin, etc. AGAIN.
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