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  #1  
July 24th, 2006, 05:42 PM
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the epidural that is. What are some of the less talked about side effects of the epidural.

I think the number one risk not mentioned with epidural's is "the domino effect". ONce you have an epidural you are setting your self up for intervention after intervention.
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July 24th, 2006, 06:34 PM
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What about permanent paralysis?
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July 24th, 2006, 07:44 PM
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'lazy uterus' - leading to postpartum hemmhorage.
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July 24th, 2006, 08:14 PM
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I had an epidural and I do not regret it because both DH and I would have missed our DD birth if I had to be put under w/ my planned c-section (will explain below). But I will say that they had to try in six different places and I have been having weird back problems ever since and unfortuantly I will have to have it again w/ my next birth.

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6 years ago, they found a large (size of a babys head) fibroid tumor, it was blocking my uriters causeing kidney infections. It was attached to the Fundus (the strongest part of the uterus now becoming the weakest). I was required to have a early c-section because there was a risk of rupture even from labour. I cried when I found out about the c-section right after the surgery cause my sister had just had a home birth. I am also saddened that I will probably never see a "real birth", But I will be awake w/ an epidural to witness my childrens. Cause it was amazing. I could still feel her kick right up till I could hear her cry.
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July 24th, 2006, 08:51 PM
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I had an epidural and it led to my 4th degree tear, as I had to lay on my back, my recovery was so much worse I would rather have a day of pain than to ever go through that again. After they put in the epidural, I lost my freedom and was no longer allowed to walk around the room or get out of the bed. They gave me a catheter so that I could pee. When the epidural wore off my legs tingled back in, and it hurt. They had to lift me from the bed to a wheelchair to move me to recovery because I was not capable of moving. I didn't have any visitors until two days after the birth because I was in such bad shape, apparently the recovery with a 4th degree tear is worse than a c section. We had such difficulty breastfeeding, my son wouldn't wake up for anything, which I later read is not uncommon with an epidural baby. He was more than a sleepyhead, I couldn't wake him and on day 4 I had to take him back to the hospital because he began turning yellow and his softspot was receding and he was dehydrated. Sigh. That's not at all what I see with mothers who go natural, they look great the next day and even right after the birth they look happy and at peace. I will do anything to avoid another tear like that. I didn't really know that much though when I was pregnant last time, the whole thing was new to me and I didn't see why not avoid pain? Really I didn't avoid pain, I just put it off and prolonged it.
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July 25th, 2006, 04:22 AM
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I didnt have any problems when I had the epidural with #1 (although I didnt *want* it, but they needed to bring my blood pressure down and it worked), but the whole experience second time round (no pain meds) was sooooooo much more intense, fun, memorable and I was so PROUD of myself! I bonded so much faster with #2 because of this!
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July 25th, 2006, 07:20 AM
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http://www.healing-arts.org/mehl-madrona/mmepidural.htm
number 25 talks about partial parylasis and there is a case story at the bottom of the page.

Here is another good one
http://www.kimjames.net/epidural_ris...de_effects.htm

and here is what the anesthesioligist will tell you

http://www.anesthesiacare.com/info/epidural/risks.htm
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July 25th, 2006, 08:28 AM
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I'm surprised to hear they would give one to bring blood pressure down, since one of the possible side effects is high blood pressure.
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July 25th, 2006, 11:09 AM
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My epi dropped my bp (and I have fairly low bp to begin with), dropped ds's heartbeat (into the 70's repeatedly), and made for a lazy baby, he didn't cry right away or nurse for 14 hours. I never want one again, unless I have to have a c-section, but I think I'd rather have a spinal.
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July 25th, 2006, 12:36 PM
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Just popping in to add my two cents! Hope you ladies don't mind.

I went all natural with DD and it was wonderful! I had a very easy labor and easy dilivery. It was text book perfect! Now, with DS I wasn't so lucky. Contractions started at 5 minutes apart and quickly went to 2 minutes and then to 1 minute. I literally had zero time to breath in between each one. I was in very active labor for 9 hours. I panicked, my BP went sky high, DS also started having a few problems, so they asked if I would reconsider having an EPI to relieve my body some. I didn't want it, but after the doctor explained that since things were going so fast and so hard, my body couldn't relax and it was causing a lot of problems for me. I opted for a walking EPI, which they could do, but it didn't work. Ten minutes after they put it in I could feel my contractrions again. I put myself at risk for no reason at all. I don't like having my back messed with. Next time we have another one, I will make it very clear that I DO NOT want an epi, I don't want them to even ask me! DH was kind of upset that it didn't even work, but, that is a risk. A risk I won't be taking again.

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July 26th, 2006, 12:53 AM
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I'm surprised to hear they would give one to bring blood pressure down, since one of the possible side effects is high blood pressure.[/b]
I know the doctor wanted me to have an epi because my BP was so high because of the preeclampsia. He said that it would keep me more calm and keep it from getting any higher. I guess they thought I might have a heart attack or something!!
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July 26th, 2006, 07:19 AM
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I think the side effect is that it lowers your bp not highers it.
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July 26th, 2006, 08:23 AM
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Oh yes, I'm gathering that.... lol...
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July 26th, 2006, 08:28 AM
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im lurking because whenever number 2 comes i want to have as natural a vbac as possible.

i didnt enjoy my spinal, but i got it on the operating table before my section. i went through 24 hours of unmedicated induced labor and if i was progressing properly i prob would have went totally natural.
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July 26th, 2006, 08:32 AM
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Good luck with your vbac. It is getting harder and harder to find someone to do them even tough they have been proven to be just a safe as a repeat section.
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i really want to find a doc who will do it. or even a midwife. i dont want to have another c section in the least! and i think if i take a more "homeopathic" path towards delivery i wont have the same issues i had with my daughter.
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July 26th, 2006, 08:43 AM
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One of my friends has had 2 VBACs and she's pg again, so she'll be having a third, barring any complications. She can't deliver at the hospital closest to her new house, so she's going to travel 2 hours for it, but its worth it to her!
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July 26th, 2006, 10:39 PM
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I had an epidural and I do not regret it because both DH and I would have missed our DD birth if I had to be put under w/ my planned c-section (will explain below). But I will say that they had to try in six different places and I have been having weird back problems ever since and unfortuantly I will have to have it again w/ my next birth.

explaination:
6 years ago, they found a large (size of a babys head) fibroid tumor, it was blocking my uriters causeing kidney infections. It was attached to the Fundus (the strongest part of the uterus now becoming the weakest). I was required to have a early c-section because there was a risk of rupture even from labour. I cried when I found out about the c-section right after the surgery cause my sister had just had a home birth. I am also saddened that I will probably never see a "real birth", But I will be awake w/ an epidural to witness my childrens. Cause it was amazing. I could still feel her kick right up till I could hear her cry.[/b]
What an amazing story. That's so neat how you were able to feel her kick and hear her cry as she was being born.

Were they able to remove the tumor?

~Nay
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