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October 20th, 2010, 09:10 PM
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I'm sure just about everyone here has at one time or another had a theist argue that atheism is just as much an unfounded and unprovable belief system as religion. I know I've personally run into this fallacy many times. Here's an article explaining what's wrong with that statement.

Is Atheism a Belief? | | AlterNet
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October 20th, 2010, 10:54 PM
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I've had many a heated debate with otherwise intelligent individuals as to why atheism isn't a religion, let alone a belief! Ugh, it annoys me to no end. Atheism really isn't a difficult concept to grasp.

As to the article's discussion about how we'd change our minds if presented with proof....Well, maybe I would but I would still choose not to worship, unless this so-called god had absolutely nothing to do with religions that are established today. If the Christian, Muslim, or whatever god made an appearance before me, I'd tell him to get bent and take my chances in hell.

And I will honestly say that I'm 100% certain that the big religions being practiced are complete bullsh*t and that no evidence will ever be supplied (I'm not even sure what could possibly qualify as irrefutable evidence. (Hmm, I smell a spin-off!)). I have no doubt the books of all of the holy books were written to control society, and to keep people safe with regards to food and water. I don't think you could convince me that they were divinely inspired.

Perhaps that makes me sound arrogant, but I can't seem to help it. I also realize that atheism isn't just tied to rejecting the big religions of today, which is why I would be a bit more open-minded if presented with proof of a god no one's ever heard of, who isn't a vengeful, spiteful, judgmental, evil monster.


ETA- And now I see that the article addressed a lot of what I was saying...That'll teach me to read the entire article before rambling! lol
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October 21st, 2010, 04:48 AM
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I don't think it makes you sound arrogant. in fact i completely agree with everything you said!


great article. thanks for sharing.
as far as what i would do if faced with absolute proof? well since he doesnt' exist, that's not going to happen. i'm really sure we have nothing to worry about! lol
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October 21st, 2010, 07:54 AM
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great link!!! i'll have to point people in that direction who try to tell me its a "belief" lol it would be a lot easier than arguing with them! thats for sure!
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I don't understand how people don't get it. It's pretty simple.
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October 21st, 2010, 12:53 PM
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yeah but you also gotta put into play they believe in an imaginary friend...so they just can not grasp the simplicity of it
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October 21st, 2010, 05:18 PM
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I have been working for some time on removing the word "believe" from my vocabulary when talking to theists, except when used in the context of saying I do NOT believe. For instance, it's a lot harder to twist around the statement that "I do not believe there are any gods" than the statement that "I believe there are no gods." The two statements mean basically the same thing, but only with the second statement can a theist jump on you with "See? You DO believe in something!"
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I think Atheism is a fact.
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