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July 31st, 2006, 11:37 AM
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Where do your ideas on right and wrong come from?
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August 1st, 2006, 10:16 AM
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IMO, rights and wrongs are very subjective and can be impacted by a number of things, including cultural environment, instinct, need for order, etc. So my ideas come from all of these and then some. What's 'right' for me as an American woman in the 21st century was far from right for, say, a Hindi woman in the 16th century.
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August 12th, 2006, 10:41 PM
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IMO, rights and wrongs are very subjective and can be impacted by a number of things, including cultural environment, instinct, need for order, etc. So my ideas come from all of these and then some. What's 'right' for me as an American woman in the 21st century was far from right for, say, a Hindi woman in the 16th century.[/b]
So, you think it's all relative? There's no such thing as "the truth"? My Dh and I get into this conversation every once in a while. He says truth is relative, and I just disagree. I guess this is the one thing I have yet to resolve because in a way, it's inconsistant with my other beliefs. My mom used to argue with me on this point too saying that if I believe in a "universal truth" than I have faith, because there is no proof for such a thing. It's just and idea. But it seems to me that there is a true right and wrong and we just need to figure it out.

Say you lived in the days of slavery. It was accepted and legal. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think there's even anything in the Bible condemning slavery. Does that make it any less wrong? I think it was as wrong then as it is now.

My dh likes to use killing as an example of truth being relative. He says, "Thou shalt not kill, right? Well, what about in self-defense? Or what about if a person really deserves it? Think about how you'd feel if someone tortured and brutally murdered our dd?" My response is that if everyone was doing what was right, there'd be no need to kill. So, although it may be justified, it doesn't make it right. You know, 2 wrongs don't make a right. Killing is always wrong.

Still, I can trip myself up when I think about animals. Animals kill other animals for food, and I just can't see that as wrong. And so I use it to justify my own carnivorous eating habits, even though I'm totally conflicted about it because sometimes I think our level of consciousness should raise us above that. We don't need to eat meat, but I love steak and burgers, etc.

Anyway, back to the original question, my simple answer is my conscience. Obviously there's more to it, but I've written enough.
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August 13th, 2006, 05:05 PM
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Yeah, I'm somewhat of a relativist. I'll try to explain my position a little (this is tough).



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Say you lived in the days of slavery. It was accepted and legal. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think there's even anything in the Bible condemning slavery. Does that make it any less wrong? I think it was as wrong then as it is now.[/b]
I see what you're saying here and I agree with that point. The relativity comes into play when you're asking how I get my individual sense of what's right and wrong. The reason I feel it's wrong to enslave someone is because of my life experiences and humanistic views. If I came into being in a different situation, my views, and therefore my sense of right and wrong, may be different. KWIM?
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