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August 23rd, 2006, 02:17 PM
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I am a member of the World Pantheist Movement. Anybody else here?
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August 23rd, 2006, 05:32 PM
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World Pantheist Movement? ((away googling))






I had to look it up:

In the WPM we take the real universe and nature as our starting and finishing point, not some preconceived idea of God. We feel a profound wonder and awe for these, similar to the reverence that believers in more conventional gods feel towards their deity, but without antropomorphic worship or belief that Nature has a mind or personality that we can influence through prayer or ritual. Our ethics are humanistic and green, our metaphysics naturalist and scientific, but to these we add the emotional and aesthetic dimensions which humans need to joyfully embrace their place in the universe and to motivate their concern for nature and human welfare. Source

That's really cool.. I'll have to look more into it!
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August 23rd, 2006, 08:20 PM
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Interesting...this is the first I have heard of it. I will have to do more research....
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I am a member of the World Pantheist Movement. Anybody else here?[/b]
Why call nature "god"? We already have the word nature. Does WPM put forth the idea that "nature" is conscious, sentient, or supernatural (a contradiction!)? If so, what is the basis for this understanding?
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August 24th, 2006, 09:36 AM
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Why call nature "god"? We already have the word nature. Does WPM put forth the idea that "nature" is conscious, sentient, or supernatural (a contradiction!)? If so, what is the basis for this understanding?[/b]
I've been questioning that lately.. In science, we haven't taken the time to prove everything yet so it's still a mystery.. It's so easy to associate nautre as a god because there is so much mystery.. I haven't ruled out the idea of god but I think about anthills.. Ants don't seem to understand us humans.. what if we are just ants to the Earth? We hold ourselves at such a value that is unnatural..

(I'm not ruling it out yet though!)
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August 24th, 2006, 09:38 AM
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No, there is no "god" in Pantheism. Quite the opposite in fact. Nature is absolutely not conscious or supernatural, but all natural and all things. Not an entity that we can influence with prayer or ritual.

Here, I will quote from the WPM website http://www.pantheist.net:

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In the WPM we take the real universe and nature as our starting and finishing point, not some preconceived idea of God. We feel a profound wonder and awe for these, similar to the reverence that believers in more conventional gods feel towards their deity, but without antropomorphic worship or belief that Nature has a mind or personality that we can influence through prayer or ritual. Our ethics are humanistic and green, our metaphysics naturalist and scientific, but to these we add the emotional and aesthetic dimensions which humans need to joyfully embrace their place in the universe and to motivate their concern for nature and human welfare.
In the WPM we revere and care for nature, we accept this life as our only life, and this earth as our only paradise, if we look after it. We revel in the beauty of nature and the night sky, and are full of wonder at their mystery and power.
Our beliefs and values reconcile spirituality and rationality, emotion and values and environmental concern with science and respect for evidence.

Why do we need a spirituality of nature?
Most people have a sense that there is something greater than the self or than the human race. The WPM's naturalistic reverence for nature can satisfy this need, without sacrificing logic or respect for evidence and science. As one member put it, it is spirituality without absurdity.[/b]
I have often felt a sense of awe when experiencing the natural world, like when walking in the woods, or watching the waves roll in at the beach, during electrical storms, breathing in the scent of flowers and herbs, eating delicious fruit, looking at the night sky on a crisp clear night, when my children were born - it's all so wonderful to me. Yet I have never, even as a child, believed that our world was created or controlled by a god. Growing up not believing often made me feel isolated from friends and even some family. When I found Pantheism and others who feel as I do, I felt a great relief, like ahhh, I am not alone!
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August 24th, 2006, 01:46 PM
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I have looked into Pantheism before, it's an interesting concept.
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August 25th, 2006, 12:09 AM
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I have to say that I am unsettled about the use of the word "spirituality" - but can't think of another word I would use myself.
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