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December 16th, 2012, 07:55 PM
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So now I am pretty miffed! I have been doing research on several different sites (close to a dozen) and have found two things that have shocked me. Well first off, the nurse/mca is wrong about my level being too low for ovulation to have occurred. Normal level for ovulation to have occurred is 2.5 but in order to maintain a pregnancy in the first trimester they like to see it be around 9 or 10. I took this from our own JM site: Progesterone Levels During Pregnancy

The other thing that has really shocked me is the symptoms of low progesterone. As I was reading the lists on several of the site, I have several of those symptoms and have for at least six months if not longer. Here is a list from one site:
  • a luteal phase less than 12 days
  • sugar cravings
  • ovarian cysts
  • low basal body temperatures
  • irregular periods
  • allergy symptoms
  • arthritis
  • spotting in the days before your period begins
  • recurrent early miscarriage
  • blood clots during menstruation
  • cold hands and feet
  • brittle nails
  • cracked heels
  • decreased sex drive
  • menstrual cramps
  • depression or anxiety
  • acne
  • fatigue
  • fibrocystic breasts
  • PCOS
  • endometriosis
  • fibromyalgia
  • gallbladder issues
  • Foggy thinking
  • headaches and migraines
  • infertility
  • vaginal dryness
  • slow metabolism
  • mood swings
  • weight gain, especially around the middle

And here is another list that I also took from JM.

Mood swings
Depression
Insomnia
Appetite changes
Weight changes
Irritability
Lack of concentration
Anxiety
Fatigue
Frequent menstruation
Irregular menstruation
Low sex drive
Migraines
PCOS (Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome)
Vaginal dryness
Painful intercourse

I guess as a nurse I just wanted to let ya'll see this and to be better informed. I know I sure am now and have some burning questions for the NP tomorrow.
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December 16th, 2012, 08:32 PM
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Whoa.... That sure explains a lot
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December 16th, 2012, 10:32 PM
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What I was told when I had a low progesterone number at 7dpo was that I did ovulate, but it was a "weak" ovulation. They upped my clomid and put me on progesterone (this was TTC#1).
I read here about taking b12 or b6 to lengthen your LP?
Did they do any baseline testing with you?
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December 17th, 2012, 05:21 AM
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Yes anything under 10 is considered a weak ovulation. Anything under 15 with a medicated cycle is considered weak as well. Without meds my progesterone was 7.8 n with clomid it was 23 but with femara it was 11.
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December 17th, 2012, 06:26 AM
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Very interesting....thanks for sharing.
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December 17th, 2012, 08:04 AM
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I am just happy to share with you ladies. You get to a point where you have to be your own advocate and get tired of the bs they try to feed you. I just know that I would not be ok with giving one of my loved ones and or friends the run around like I have gotten. I know this may sound weird or whatever, but I swear there is such a difference between healthcare in the North and in the South. Now I know it wouldn't matter where I lived if I had cancer or problems with my bones because they treat those things equally aggressive. But man, it just feels like no one takes it seriously when I say we have been trying this long, shouldn't we do ultrasound and some bloodwork. They look at me like I have third eye on my face and how dare I suggest anything since I am now in patient shoes and not wearing the nursing shoes.

For whiskey I was totally shocked, I was going down the list and like oh my goodness!!! I had to show DH because I couldn't believe it at first and I think he was as equally shocked. I think he now believes me when I say I have been getting the run around. Because I really think at first he thought I was overreacting a little.

For Lucy S. to be totally honest, I don't think I ever had any baseline blood work done before I started the clomid. I do remember asking though if it would be a good idea to see where I am before adding pills to the equation. Of course the OB said it wasn't necessary, I swear I think he works for my insurance company and keeps their best interest at heart and not mine!!! I did take B6 earlier this year and it really helped me to feel less like a zombie night shift worker because I actually had energy. But now that I am thinking about it, when I was taking the B6 my cycles were regular and I wasn't going weeks on end without having a cycle. I am really hoping and praying you get your bfp soon!!!

Thanks for the info swtneka. I had no idea what lab values were supposed to be and only figured that out once I went on my hunt last night. I really hoping and praying you get your bfp soon!!!

To dri2011 I see under your name it says tired of practicing, I definitely relate to that too. I am tired of trying to make it fun and exciting so DH doesn't think I am just hitting him up because I am close to and or ovulating. I am really hoping and praying that you get your bfp soon!!!
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December 17th, 2012, 10:45 AM
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Thanks for sharing. I am getting my 7 dpo testing on Thursday. I hope my results are good!
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December 17th, 2012, 10:58 AM
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Wow. I kinda wonder if I do have low progesterone. I went in the gyno a month or so ago to get tested because I thought there was a correlation between that and my hives. Of course they said if your cycles are 26-28 days you should be good with your hormones. All I wanted to say was "gee thanks doc! I didn't know you could tell that without testing, thanks for letting me nothing but taking me money anyway."

I am so sick of doctors. Cutenurse- I know you are nurse (obviously) so I will ask you this. If I tried the cream would it do any harm to me? Or should I try to go back in the doctors? I know they are just going to keep telling me I am fine. I know there is something going on. There has to be a reason it hasn't happened yet and maybe my hives have something to do with it. If I bought the cream and tried it do you think that would be okay? Do you have any suggestions for me?
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December 17th, 2012, 11:21 AM
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WorkerBeeMama I really hope you get good results too!!! My fingers are crossed!! Really hoping that this is your cycle and you get a bfp soon!!!

Hopeful_girl55 that totally stinks about what the doctor said that if your cycles are 25-6-28 days long then you hormones are normal. That is just total crap!!! Hence why I pushed so hard and finally got some lab work done even though it was only a progesterone level done. I figured they should be doing some sort of lab work and or ultrasounds since they put me on the awful Clomid.

As for the cream, what kind of cream are you talking about? I have just been figuring things out myself and have thought about using an over the counter cream that would help my progesterone. I have too much estrogen due to me being fat and then losing weight, but my body has a lot of estrogen saved in the fat cells I really wish I had some better suggestions for you but I really don't other than to push your OB harder for some lab work. If you don't get anywhere then find a new practice. (Which is now what I am doing. Trying to find an OB practice with an OB that specializes in infertility so they could just run the show. Then I wouldn't have to see the fertility specialist in town and then find a new OB to manage my pregnancy. Because bottom line if current OB can't figure out what is wrong after 14 months, not sure I want them delivering my baby).
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December 17th, 2012, 11:34 AM
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Lol yeah that's true. If they don't know what is wrong with you how will they know if something is wrong with the baby.
And as far as the cream goes I seen some people talking about it on here. I thought it might be worth a try. I am going to look into that. I won't be able to go to the doctors till after the new year with so much going on. So I really want to try something this cycle. I will look into the cream and let you know what I find out.
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December 17th, 2012, 11:44 AM
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Okey dokey, sounds good to me. I look forward to hearing what your results are with the cream because I have thought about that too. I'm also thinking of going back to taking a B6 vitamin again once a day.
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December 17th, 2012, 11:48 AM
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Yeah I may pick up some B6 today. I need to start taking my Vit D religiously again because I haven't. I am going to pick up some daily vitamins too. I am not sure what else I should get.
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December 17th, 2012, 05:58 PM
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For a cheap prenatal vitamin I buy: spring valley (is the brand) and it is simply called prenatal multivitamin/mulitmineral and it is available at wal-mart. It isn't that expensive at all. I just can't handle the prenatals that have you take the dha/fish oil with them. Regardless of when I take them, I still taste fish oil and that is just plain awful!!
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December 17th, 2012, 06:21 PM
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SJ! I am so glad that you are doing your research. As you and I both know as nurses you HAVE to advocate for yourself.. or else, well.. lets face it you can get seriously taken advantage of! Glad to see you back on JM and actively TTC
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December 17th, 2012, 07:08 PM
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Thanks for checking on me Catherine And you are definitely right, as nurses you have to advocate for your patients and yourself too. Just wish we were back up North where healthcare seems to run more smoothly and people seem to know what they are doing. I just feel it is ridiculous having to go back every couple of months complaining of the same symptoms and they just act like they could care less. I swear they work more for my insurance company than they do for me!!!
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