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September 11th, 2006, 04:41 PM
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Hi ladies,

I'd like to know if any of you are TTC after a tubal reversal? I had my tubes tied a little over 2 years ago and I have had a really difficult time dealing with the changes. (medical changes, not pshychological changes) While I wasn't expecting to ever have any more children, if I decide to go through with the tubal reversal, I obviously have to be prepared for the possibility.

Since my husband and I have been talking about it so much lately, it has made us really want another child. So I'd like to hear from the board to see how your experiences have been with TTC after a tubal reversal. I know a lot of it depends on how much healthy tube is remaining, plus my age and health. Another is the doctor himself.

Any info you can share would be appreciated! Thanks!
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September 11th, 2006, 05:52 PM
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Lisa~Hi. I had a tubal reversal March 2005. We have been ttc for 16 months now. On the year anniversary we got pg only to have a m/c. That was a clomid pg. I O on my own but the Dr. wanted it a little better. So I did 4 months of femara, 4 months of clomid, 3 months on injects with 2 iui's. If I had it to do all over and wanted a baby, I think I would have done IVF. I have certainly spent enough money for at least 2 rounds. It has been a discouraging and hard road for me. When I had my reversal, it was discovered that endometriosis was around my tubes where they had been tied and cut. Thus all the af pains that Dr. thought was in my head all these years. Well, he got that cut off and I had plenty of tube left, like 7 cm or so. I had a lap back in Dec. to check my tube patency and a hysteroscopy to make sure everything is OK. We think my right tube is blocked, not a 100% though. My right ovary had a spasm and the dye wouldn't go through so we don't know if it was a temporary thing or not. Alot of women have success immediately after their reversal but alot of women don't. Again, you are right, alot has to do with age and I am 37. My RE is excellent and I have full confidence in him. Anyway, I am waiting on af right now because this is my last cycle with meds for alot of reasons that are long and lengthy. I hope I get a bfp though Good luck and let me know if I can answer any questions you have. I hope I have helped a little. Good luck in your decision.
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September 11th, 2006, 06:40 PM
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Lisa~Hi. I had a tubal reversal March 2005. We have been ttc for 16 months now. On the year anniversary we got pg only to have a m/c. That was a clomid pg. I O on my own but the Dr. wanted it a little better. So I did 4 months of femara, 4 months of clomid, 3 months on injects with 2 iui's. If I had it to do all over and wanted a baby, I think I would have done IVF. I have certainly spent enough money for at least 2 rounds. It has been a discouraging and hard road for me. When I had my reversal, it was discovered that endometriosis was around my tubes where they had been tied and cut. Thus all the af pains that Dr. thought was in my head all these years. Well, he got that cut off and I had plenty of tube left, like 7 cm or so. I had a lap back in Dec. to check my tube patency and a hysteroscopy to make sure everything is OK. We think my right tube is blocked, not a 100% though. My right ovary had a spasm and the dye wouldn't go through so we don't know if it was a temporary thing or not. Alot of women have success immediately after their reversal but alot of women don't. Again, you are right, alot has to do with age and I am 37. My RE is excellent and I have full confidence in him. Anyway, I am waiting on af right now because this is my last cycle with meds for alot of reasons that are long and lengthy. I hope I get a bfp though Good luck and let me know if I can answer any questions you have. I hope I have helped a little. Good luck in your decision.[/b]
Yes, thank you so much for your input. I'm sorry things haven't been in your favor for a BFP, I know how discouraging that may be. I always look at things the best I can, so I'd like to tell you to hang in there. Whether you are medically assisted or just TTC the old fashioned way...if it is meant to be, God will make it happen. I've heard story after story of couples using fertility drugs and never conceive...but graciously conceive on their own after they've already given up hope. I think until you hear a definate "no" from the doctor, stay optomistic that it can, and hopefully WILL happen someday. I wish you and your hubby the best!

As for my situation, I am mainly concerned about my own health and sanity. I am one of the unfortunate few who have what is known as Post Tubal Ligation Syndrome. I am 29 years old and experiencing pre-menopause. I have hot flashes, headaches daily, excessive bleeding and cramping with my AF's (prior to my tubal, I was a light flow'er with no PMS and no cramping, EVER!), on the first day of my AF I need to change my napkin hourly. The cramping and pinching is at times unbearable. My mood swings are scary at times...sometimes I wonder if people think I'm bi-polar by my sudden personality change/mood swing. The things that never bothered me before, now bother me. And if it's not fixed immediately I am angry. I have NEVER been like this before, nothing used to upset me or make me angry. Now it seems as though nothing makes me happy. My doctor wanted me to try Prozac, but I refuse to live my life medicated. I want to be the person I was BEFORE my surgery. I know it has everything to do with hormonal changes, now that my tubes are tied and there is less estrogen in my ovaries (due to lack of blood flow). I just want to be "me" again and I've read in so many PTLS forums that these symptoms are quite common in TL patients. Many of them had reversals done, for the sake of their sanity, and report that almost all of their PTLS symptoms were gone. So naturally I want to give myself the best shot at being "normal" again. And with this comes the possibility of becoming PG, which I am perfectly fine with. I didn't realize that even after a tubal reversal, the doctors would still use fertility drugs. Is that standard or did they do this because your tube/ovary was blocked? Now that you are almost finished with your treatment, are you going to try the old fashioned way, or try IVF? I am scared to try IVF, as it is pretty costly and I am a high risk PG anyway. I've had two placental abruptions as well as one placental previa. I also have a tilted uterus, which I believe may play a part in my placental issues. In my two placental abruptions, one ended in m/c at 16.5 weeks, and the other ended in a full term baby girl, healthy as ever. Miraculously, she survived the abruption even after the doctors told me it was too late for her. (One hour after the abruption began, I was in U/S and the docs told me the placenta had separated from the uterine wall by 75% - so they sent me home to bed rest and told me to wait out the m/c and come back in 48 hours for another U/S. Thankfully, by the grace of God, the placenta re-attached itself completely!) So needlesstosay, I'm scared to even attempt IVF, knowing my placental issues/history.
Well thanks for listening to me... as I mentioned earlier, the TR isn't so much about having a baby, it's more for my health and well-being. But I am certainly going to try for a baby if and when I do this TR. I thank you so much for your advice and sharing your story. I wish you baby dust until your prayers have been answered! Take care!
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September 11th, 2006, 08:26 PM
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I have also had a tubal reversal done. I had my tubes tied in August of 2001...I divorced (after having 4 children) and now remarried for almost a year. I had the reversal in March of 2006 and I am expecting AF tomorrow and will be going on to our 7th cycle. My next step is to have a HSG done to see if my tubes are blocked.

The one thing I didn't expect from the surgery (it being my first "go totally under" surgery) was the area around the incision. I don't know if you have had c-sections, but I haven't and so I didn't know anything about "being cut". The whole area on the left side of me "down there" is numb and feels weird to touch...I hate touching or being touched in the particular area, even shaving. I can't feel it almost...it is a weird feeling. I guess they messed up the nerves and I'm not sure everyone has it...but I do. My surgery was painful immediately after I woke up...very sore, I couldn't even stand to move. If we get a baby together from it all, it will definitely be worth it. And from your prospective, I think it would be worth doing to eliminate all that you are going through. I had a few of the symptoms you mentioned also from the ligation. I have others now after the reversal...nothing major..just like shorter cycles...cramps (where I'm opposite from you..never had them before the reversal and now I do).

I wish you luck with your decision to either have it done or not. If you have any questions about the surgery or what to expect or anything feel free to pm me..im on here alot.

Best of luck to you!

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September 11th, 2006, 08:49 PM
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Thank you, Denise. I am getting to the point that I am 99% sure I will have the reversal. It will be worth it to me, even if all I get out of it is being myself again. Like I said before, my main reason is for my health. Baby is secondary but the more I think about the possibility of a PG, the more I want a baby too. I am so afraid of going through with it with high expectations, the last thing I want is to have the surgery only to be depressed and discouraged of repeated BFN's. It's one of those things where one door closes and another one opens, very intimidating!

Where did you have your reversal done? You're the second person today that has mentioned one of the tubes possibly being blocked. Is that normal? That kind of concerns me because if I do the surgery and the tubes end up being blocked, it would defeat the purpose of me even having the surgery. Right? My whole goal is to establish "pre-surgery" blood flow to the ovaries to get things back to normal levels again. I'd assume if there was a blocked tube, that couldn't happen. And I'd imagine there is no test that can be done ahead of time to determine the chances of the tubes being blocked. Wow. This is a whole lot more complicated than I had expected!

I hope everything goes well for you at the doctors & he gives you good news! I wish you baby dust as well! Take care Denise!
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September 12th, 2006, 07:51 AM
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Lisa...

I had my surgery done locally. I live near St Louis Missouri..I had it done by a chief of ob at a hospital here.

When they went in, there had been some scarring on my right tube from the ligation, so they had to remove that, therefore making my right tube shorter than it would have been. Both of my tubes are only 5 cm. They shoot dye in there after they reconnect the tubes to see if it worked, but scar tissue can build up in there over time and block them again. So no, there is no guarantee that yours wont. It is totally a chance thing I am thinking, unfortunately.

I think it is worth the chance though! I hope yours goes well...(and about the discouragement...I think that with having the surgery....I feel that I went through all of that for nothing every month (like today when AF decides to show up and this morning seeing the not pregnant), but I keep my hopes on the one possible month I will get to see a BFP and be blessed with a baby to love...
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