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November 13th, 2009, 08:43 AM
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Matthew spit up blood last night. It was brown blood on his sheets. I called his pedi and she said since I recently took him off his Prevacid, he probably retched hard enough that he got a small tear in his stomach or esophagus. She said it should be okay so long as it subsides over the next day and doesn't ever turn bright red. And that obviously his reflux is still bad enough that he needs to go back on the Prevacid. I feel so bad, I took him off it and he seemed to be okay, he was spitting up more but it didn't seem to be bothering him. Bless his little heart, he was babbling at his daddy while I was on the phone with the Dr.
We are also waiting on some lab results from testing his poop. He has always had problems with mucus in his poop off and on and I've never been able to figure out what in my diet causes it. It's gotten bad again recently like poop that is mostly just mucus. They are doing a bacterial culture, checking for parasites and rotavirus. But she said it's probably my diet since this has been a problem in the past. Right now I am cutting out dairy again (I did this for two weeks when he was little with no noticeable improvement) and also wheat/gluten as much as I can. I'm so scared something is really wrong like Celiac's or something. Or that what if I can't figure out what it is and he has to go on formula. It would break my heart to have to stop BFing. I just don't want to hurt his tummy. I don't know how long I can keep up no dairy or wheat, I'm hoping to make it a week and see if it helps and then try to reintroduce one or the other so I can see which it is, or if it's not either of them.
I'm lucky he's been mostly okay through all of this. He was having really bad gas at first but that seems to have mostly gone away. He's not too fussy except for when he gets tired and when his gums are bothering him. I also stopped giving him any solids just in case that was a problem and he's back on BM only.
I cut nuts and chocolate back out of my diet too
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November 13th, 2009, 09:50 AM
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oh no.. that would be scary.. i am sorry he has to go back on the medicine.. and i think you are doing awesome with the breastfeeding! if you end up switching to formula you should be very proud of how long you have breastfed! i could understand switching.. i am sure its stressful trying to figure out what/if anything, in your diet would be causing his tummy upset.

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November 13th, 2009, 09:55 AM
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I agree with Em, if you end up having to give him formula, you should be very proud of how long you have been Bfing him. I know it's hard to figured out what it is that you are eating that is doing this too him, I had to stop all dairy for a while and it was hard. Sorry he has to go back on his meds.
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November 13th, 2009, 11:01 AM
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My pedi hasn't said to consider doing formula yet, she just said we'll have to keep watching it. So I don't know if I will "have to". Heck, I don't even know if he would even take it, b/c I know some babies won't go to it (especially sensitive formulas which he'd likely have to have) if they've been on breastmilk awhile.
I'm just torn even thinking about it because I want to keep BFing but I dont want to damage his tummy.
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November 13th, 2009, 11:05 AM
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You are doing an awesome job with bfing and trying to do what is best for Matthew. You are a star in my opinion. That would be VERY difficult to give up milk, wheat, nuts and chocolate! If you did have to switch to formula, don't beat yourself up over it....you have done a fantasic job, and the switch would only be to benifit your little man, and there is no way you can feel guilty about that!! I hope getting him back on his meds helps him out again. Poor little guy. Give him a hug from all of us.
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November 13th, 2009, 03:54 PM
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Shannon, I am sorry to hear that Matthew is having some tummy troubles !
I truly hope the dr. can figure out what is going on and it is an easy fix.
You are doing a great job bfing, and it if you do switch it is fine ! It is no reflection on you. I could only bf Katie for about 2 months and had to do formula 100%.
she was thriving after that. and was HAPPY....and that was the only thing that matters. and our bond is as strong as if she was bf only.

a bottle or breast can't make or break the mother-child bond.
please know that we are all hoping that everything is fine with Matthew. Please KUP....you are doing a GREAT job mama!!!!
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November 13th, 2009, 05:31 PM
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I know it will be okay if he has to go to formula. I just hope it isn't a hard decision, like right now I don't know what the "right" thing to do is. He is mostly a happy little guy but I do worry about the mucus. It's just strange b/c I've gone without dairy/wheat for 3 days now and so far no improvement. It may be too soon, it's just odd because I know I have eaten plenty of those things in the past and he's not has as much of a problem as he is now. So maybe it's something else?!
Though if he has to go on formula, I don't know HOW I will ever get him to sleep, other than him crying himself to sleep. He will only nurse to sleep. I've tried other things with no luck at all.
Oh and no more bloody spit ups today so that is a huge relief!
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November 13th, 2009, 07:29 PM
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I hope every thing comes back normal. I couldn't imagine cutting out everything you have, I only BF 3-4 times a day(she has formula after BF also) and I had to cut out dairy and it has been hard. I will tell you if you have to switch to formula try either Avent or Playtex, there has been no nipple confussion using those.
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November 13th, 2009, 09:13 PM
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DITTO to the avent or playtex....

I really hope things get better....and that is great news about no more bloody spit ups!!
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November 14th, 2009, 02:11 AM
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Shannon, so sorry about his tummy problems, the blood would scare me too.

Don't even think about formula hunny, breastmilk is easier to digest and will be better for his tummy and pooping. You can go back to solids just puree them to a fine liquid. We had to do this for Gabriella because she was getting so badly constipated that she would cry when pooing, it was horrible.

I also have issues with her and eczema and I have always felt it's something in my diet. I did the same and eliminated food groups to no avail. However, you need to eliminate things like milk for at least 4-6 weeks to see if there is an improvement. 2 weeks may not be long enough.

There should be no reason that you will have to switch to formula unless he isn't thriving. Breastfeeding is the best thing you can do for him. Could the mucus be a side effect of the medication? Like maybe it reacted with a food or something. I bet it's more of a food allergy and he may outgrow it but I would discuss with his doctor about what happens if you continue nursing and he has the mucus stools. Is he uncomfortable with the stools or just the gas? Try doing the bicycle legs and extra burping to help.

I hope you get answers and he gets better hun.
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November 17th, 2009, 08:43 AM
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UGH I am sure this is just hell for you - trying to do what is best for Matthew with opinions coming from all directions. Just do what you know is right for him with the help of your doctors advice. We will all support your decisions.

When do you get the stool test back?
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November 17th, 2009, 10:43 AM
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Sorry, I was out of town when you posted, but as you know we've been going through the same thing. Juliana had to go ON prevacid because of the blood in her spit up. We haven't seen any blood since. She is also on Carafate, which is a medication that coats her throat (kinda like pepto-bismol) and gives any irritation caused by acid a chance to heal. Is he on that too? She occasionally has some mucousy poop, but it is pretty rare. Her doc hasn't wanted me to change diet....he doesn't think that is the problem. But I always wonder, of course.

Our main problem has been sleep. Last night she had her first 3 oz of formula (I'm introducing it slowly). I did it because I know that I can't pump enough for my trip and I'm pretty much desperate for sleep. She only woke once last night and didn't spit up at all. I'm going to try it again tonight. I hope you get some answers soon....I know that feeling of being unsure about what to do to help your LO.....it is so hard.
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November 17th, 2009, 09:15 PM
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just checking in to see how Matthew is doing...
I know you are getting all kinds of opinions....I am sure you will do what is best for Matthew, every baby is different..... mommy always knows best
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November 18th, 2009, 06:19 AM
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I apologise if I came across opinionated. I didnt' mean to. I was supporting your choice to continue to breastfeed and you spoke of being very upset if you had to stop. It wasn't meant to come off as formula being a bad choice. I went through times where I thought I would have to stop breastfeeding and those of you that have had to do that know how heartbreaking it is to stop. It's very stressful and upsetting. I know quite a few of you went through that and I remember how upset you were too.

Yes, your babies are healthy and smart but at the time you had to switch you know was a difficult time and I'm supporting that if there is no medical need to stop then I wouldn't stop. Matthew's health is the most important be it breastmilk or formula.
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November 19th, 2009, 10:41 AM
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Aw ladies you know I love all of you and respect your advice and opinions. All of us will have different experiences and I know that formula or breastmilk, we all choose what we feel is best for us and our babies. What's tough to me is NOT knowing what is best. But I guess that is part of mommyhood, second guessing your decisions and wondering if you are making the best choices.

The stool tests came back negative and his pedi wants him to see a pediatric GI specialist. I asked the my pedi's nurse what they would want to do and she said it could range anywhere from doing an endoscope, to putting him on hypoallergenic formula, to looking him over and saying to let it be so long as he is growing well. So we will go and see what they have to say but honestly I do not know that I will agree to an endoscope (he'd have to have general anesheisa) or going to formula unless they can give me some very good reasons to do so.

I've been off dairy, soy, wheat, nuts, fish for over a week. He is still having the mucus poops and I think there is still something bothering him because one night he woke up crying a couple times with bad gas (but was okay the other nights). He doesn't cry while pooping or anything and the nurse said that was a good sign. So if he's growing well and not in pain from it, I think I've decided I will continue to play with my diet (as much as I can without driving myself crazy or losing any more weight...I think I'm going to put wheat back in and keep dairy/soy/nuts out) and see if I can figure this out. I also want to ask the GI specialist for a referal to an allergist to see if we can go ahead and get him tested for food allergies. I know it's not totally realiable at such a young age but maybe it can give us some clues. Then I also want to get tested for allergies myself since I have read that a lot of times baby has the same ones mommy does. I have done a lot of googling and worrying and I hope we can get this resolved
soon.

I just know I'm torn about the BFing because I dont want to do it just because I want to do it, kwim? It would break my heart to stop but if I could know that was what was truly best for him then I would. But right now I don't think it is. He is such a big comfort nurser and he goes to sleep for each nap and at night by BFing. I don't know if I could handle not letting him nurse and having him root around and cry and not understand why mommy wasn't letting him nurse anymore.

I am trying to keep myself from stressing too much. He has yucky bad poos but he is growing like a weed, he is happy most of the time and just recently, he started giving me slobbery baby kisses.

Thanks so much ladies for checking up on us. I'll try and keep you posted about what is going on. I am making plans now for my dairy free Thanksgiving!
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November 21st, 2009, 02:51 PM
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Just checking to see how things are going. Any more blood?

I think the odds of needing to go to hypoallergenic formula are probably pretty low. But if you did, you could pump while you are trying it so that you keep your supply. Then if he does great, you know he needs it and if he doesn't show improvement you can go back to breastfeeding. Also, maybe he could be allowed to comfort nurse after hes had his meal and you've pumped? My situation is different because Ana doesn't EVER comfort nurse . I was pretty scared about the scope possibility too....just ask lots of questions about what type of things they are looking for, etc. And, of course, it is ultimately your decision.

Don't let anyone ever say you aren't committed to what is best for Matthew....I think the dairy-free Thanksgiving proves that!! KUP
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November 22nd, 2009, 07:58 PM
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Oh my gosh, scary! Poor lil guy! Hope you guys figure out his tummy troubles.
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Thanks so much for the update. Let us know after your appt with the GI specialist. I hope your Thanksgiving was great!
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