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So do you think this means he is going to go for Rob Portman, former trade representative and budget director under Bush and a lesser known name? Or is it possible he will bring is VP from another state and just chose Ohio as the location because it is a big swing state?
This just so happens to be in my area and I have already secured my ticket!
So do you think this means he is going to go for Rob Portman, former trade representative and budget director under Bush and a lesser known name? Or is it possible he will bring is VP from another state and just chose Ohio as the location because it is a big swing state?
This just so happens to be in my area and I have already secured my ticket! [/b]
Have a great time! I honestly don't know. For several days now it seems as though the media has been saying both Obama and McCain are going to announce their picks, but nothing yet. I can't wait to hear who Obama chooses, but I'll just have to wait to get texted.
I think it's fun knowing that Obama is telling his supporters first. I think we'll be getting emailed & texted.
Anyway... It's hard knowing that McCain is going to publicly celebrate his birthday. When the last one I remember him doing publicly, was with George Bush on a tarmac, while thousands of people were starving, burning up in the heat, drowning and losing their homes. A situation that still has been mismanaged from day one, and is still a problem. If I was him, I would consider going down to NO on that day - spare us the photo-ops, and help rebuild someone's home or life. If nothing more than to repent for participating in such a horrific display of careless behavior with Bush.
I hope he announces in Ohio if you are going to be there! That would be awesome!
I am REALLY hoping he picks Romney.
And OMG on the birthday comment. [/b]
Yes, OMG - while Katrina struck, he and George Bush celebrated his birthday. McCain should have just stayed far away from Bush, if he cared about what was going on.
I hope he announces in Ohio if you are going to be there! That would be awesome!
I am REALLY hoping he picks Romney.
And OMG on the birthday comment. [/b]
Yes, OMG - while Katrina struck, he and George Bush celebrated his birthday. McCain should have just stayed far away from Bush, if he cared about what was going on.
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No, OMG as in OMG what was he supposed to do cancel his birthday?
Did Bush never go to New Orleans after the storm? I am pretty sure I saw him there after the storm.
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I hope he announces in Ohio if you are going to be there! That would be awesome!
I am REALLY hoping he picks Romney.
And OMG on the birthday comment. [/b]
Yes, OMG - while Katrina struck, he and George Bush celebrated his birthday. McCain should have just stayed far away from Bush, if he cared about what was going on.
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No, OMG as in OMG what was he supposed to do cancel his birthday?
Did Bush never go to New Orleans after the storm? I am pretty sure I saw him there after the storm.
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First - he could have told the president NO. And not gotten himself involved in that.
Second - Bush and his administration was a complete FAILURE to the people of New Orleans, and surrounding areas. That failure is still evident today! Don't even begin to question that, because even Bush himself spoke to the problems down there, just the other day. Problems that if he had been a competent president - and had competent/qualified people - instead of heck of a job cronies and hacks in place, would likely never have occurred.
First - he could have told the president NO. And not gotten himself involved in that.
Second - Bush and his administration was a complete FAILURE to the people of New Orleans, and surrounding areas. That failure is still evident today! Don't even begin to question that, because even Bush himself spoke to the problems down there, just the other day. Problems that if he had been a competent president - and had competent/qualified people - instead of heck of a job cronies and hacks in place, would likely never have occurred.[/b]
I am still not seeing a problem with the birthday.
Maybe if the people and government in New Orleans would have followed the right path they would have gotten the help that they needed. Maybe if all the people who stayed behind would have gotten out like and when they were told to rescue workers could have spent more time helping get things cleaned up and less time fishing the hard headed off their roofs. Maybe if New Orleans would have put in to motion their evacuation plan.
Also, correct me if I am wrong, were not other cities hit? Why is it that none of those cities are blaming George Bush? Let me guess...you think he blew up the levees don't you?
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You don't see a problem with your political leaders publicly celebrating, laughing it up and doing Photo Ops, when the country is undergoing one of the most horrific events imaginable? Did you have a problem with Bush sitting in that classroom reading a book to kids, getting his photo op, like nothing was going on, either?
Your sarcasm and lack of concern for fellow man, is duly noted. I use NO as an example, because long term - it was hardest hit - and remains in the worst shape. I pray that a similar devastation never falls on your family, and you're forced to hear about the lack of concern or caring from your fellow countryman.
And I guess according to you - people without cars or income, or places to stay - are just supposed to pack up their few precious things and start walking up the highway - camping out on the roadside? I'm sure they would have walked out in time to avoid the storm. Also, NO Was off the original emergency warning list. People went to the shelters they were told to go to, and help never came in time for some. Hospitals didn't get proper warnings, or time to evacuate. Bush's response teams held back people from going in and helping. Sherrifs stood on roads and highways with rifles, telling people to go back. Mothers stood on bridges in the burning heat - begging for water and food for their babies, while helicopters were told not to drop supplies. Don't sit there and act as though our government didn't fail these people - they did. Supporting any level of farce that Bush and his cronies did right by anyone is disgusting. Not to mention more reports keep coming out that supplies and resources that were supposed to go to Katrina victims, were left in storage facilities or given away to casinos. It's one of the worst disasters against our own people, and we witnessed it in our own time. Just disgusting.
Listen, we don't agree but that doesn't mean I am cold and heartless. I think that there are a lot of things that could have been done differently on that day but not having cake isn't one of them.
Do I think that Bush could have handled the classroom different? Yes. Do I think that he should have jumped up and ran out the door? No. Do I hold the way he handled the situation against him? No, what good would that do?
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Kittycat -
I am sorry, but this is crazy. So you stating that McCain who isn't the president shouldn't have celebrated his brithday because of Katrina. Right. I geuss I am cold hearted as well. I for the record acutally know ACTUAL people who live there and were a part of the entire thing. While I agree that things could have gone better, I believe that if anything like that happened again it would. You apparantly have BDS (Bush Derangement Syndrome) as your disgust for him is apparent. As for these reports about the casinos and such, I would take those with a grain of salt. I mean there are wackos out there that believe the US planned the 9-11 attack, so there you go. The people I know actually were allowed to go into New Orleans after the disaster because of their job. We saw actual pictures. It was incredibly sad. I do not believe the US was ready for such a thing and Katrina proved it. Our disaster plans should now be better. I know for a fact that people DID get food, water, ice etc.
No, OMG as in OMG what was he supposed to do cancel his birthday?
Did Bush never go to New Orleans after the storm? I am pretty sure I saw him there after the storm.
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Hmmm. When my dad scheduled his hernia surgery on my 17th birthday many (very many ) years ago, I canceled my birthday celebration. I didn't eat cake that day.
Kittycat -
I am sorry, but this is crazy. So you stating that McCain who isn't the president shouldn't have celebrated his brithday because of Katrina. Right. I geuss I am cold hearted as well. I for the record acutally know ACTUAL people who live there and were a part of the entire thing. While I agree that things could have gone better, I believe that if anything like that happened again it would. You apparantly have BDS (Bush Derangement Syndrome) as your disgust for him is apparent. As for these reports about the casinos and such, I would take those with a grain of salt. I mean there are wackos out there that believe the US planned the 9-11 attack, so there you go. The people I know actually were allowed to go into New Orleans after the disaster because of their job. We saw actual pictures. It was incredibly sad. I do not believe the US was ready for such a thing and Katrina proved it. Our disaster plans should now be better. I know for a fact that people DID get food, water, ice etc.[/b]
No, what I'm saying is that he shouldn't have been doing a PHOTO OP, particularly with the President, when the country was undergoing a crisis. Great way to just shove it in the face of those that lost loved ones, their homes - and everything they ever knew. But again, this goes back to JUDGMENT, and McCain was clearly lacking at that moment. All it took was him telling Bush NO. He could have celebrated his birthday without photographers and Bush - on a tarmac.
And I know people there as well. My husband's aunt lost her New home, and the one that was in escrow about to be sold. Of course the buyers backed out - since the home no longer existed, and she got stuck with two mortgages, and no roof over her head. She now rents a low end apartment, and is burning through her retirement because she's still stuck with two 'lots' she can't live on.
And since you're a moderator, I'll tell you that I think it's very distasteful to suggest that I have "BDS". A majority of the country agrees with my opinion on this and many other subjects relating to bush. If anyone is suffering derangement, you might consider looking in a mirror!
As for those reports on the casinos - it's matter of record. Do your research.
Kittycat -
I am sorry, but this is crazy. So you stating that McCain who isn't the president shouldn't have celebrated his brithday because of Katrina. Right. I geuss I am cold hearted as well. I for the record acutally know ACTUAL people who live there and were a part of the entire thing. While I agree that things could have gone better, I believe that if anything like that happened again it would. You apparantly have BDS (Bush Derangement Syndrome) as your disgust for him is apparent. As for these reports about the casinos and such, I would take those with a grain of salt. I mean there are wackos out there that believe the US planned the 9-11 attack, so there you go. The people I know actually were allowed to go into New Orleans after the disaster because of their job. We saw actual pictures. It was incredibly sad. I do not believe the US was ready for such a thing and Katrina proved it. Our disaster plans should now be better. I know for a fact that people DID get food, water, ice etc.[/b]
No, what I'm saying is that he shouldn't have been doing a PHOTO OP, particularly with the President, when the country was undergoing a crisis. Great way to just shove it in the face of those that lost loved ones, their homes - and everything they ever knew. But again, this goes back to JUDGMENT, and McCain was clearly lacking at that moment. All it took was him telling Bush NO. He could have celebrated his birthday without photographers and Bush - on a tarmac.
And I know people there as well. My husband's aunt lost her New home, and the one that was in escrow about to be sold. Of course the buyers backed out - since the home no longer existed, and she got stuck with two mortgages, and no roof over her head. She now rents a low end apartment, and is burning through her retirement because she's still stuck with two 'lots' she can't live on.
And since you're a moderator, I'll tell you that I think it's very distasteful to suggest that I have "BDS". A majority of the country agrees with my opinion on this and many other subjects relating to bush. If anyone is suffering derangement, you might consider looking in a mirror!
As for those reports on the casinos - it's matter of record. Do your research.
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I must agree here. The majority of people in this country believe the country is on the wrong track. Bush's approval ratings are lower than any other sitting president in history. "BDS" is kind of lame, no?
I have no problem saying I'm disgusted by the decisions he has made in his career, just as I'm disgusted with some of the people I work with in education. It's not a personal disgust, just a disgust with the lack of credible, responsible leadership.
) years ago, I canceled my birthday celebration. I didn't eat cake that day. 
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