[kittycat]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3e1pQqQ89Y...player_embedded
http://thepage.time.com/2009/01/12/o...-star-in-psas/

Great way to remind people what has make America so great, and encourage others to volunteer and join National Service.

[HeathJS28]

I can't see either of these at work and don't have internet at home anymore (in between moving and slow installers....). What is his call to people? What is he saying that will make them want to get up and join?

[BonitaAppleBomb]

I can't see either of these at work and don't have internet at home anymore (in between moving and slow installers....). What is his call to people? What is he saying that will make them want to get up and join?[/b]

Heather, this is what I was able to access, perhaps someone else can access more for you:

OBAMA, in the TV spot: “America's greatness was not crafted in skyscrapers alone... But on the ground by those who could see what needed to be done. Volunteers who in service stepped forward... Onto the dust of the moon, a levee in the heartland, the marble steps of a dream. You may ask yourself: ‘Where's my moon, my levee, my dream?' Well, it's here...with you.”

OBAMA, in the radio spot: “This is Barack Obama. In the story of America, the greatest chapters are moments of challenge when we see people serving their country and one another. Volunteers who stepped forward… into hospital corridors and church basements. Along levees and fire-lines. And the next chapter is yours to help write. … Let's renew America together.”[/b]

[HeathJS28]

Thanks Carla. That is very interesting.

[MamaTo2Ls]

I'm not able to watch this either at the moment. Last I heard he was wanting to force, not encourage, Americans between the ages of 18-24 to join National Guard. Has that changed or is this in addition to?

[*Jaime*]

That was my first thought too. At the beginning of his campaign, he was talking about a "draft" type of situation into National service. Is this the beginning of that idea again?

[swade66]

That was my first thought too. At the beginning of his campaign, he was talking about a "draft" type of situation into National service. Is this the beginning of that idea again?[/b]

I hadn't heard that.

I heard this too. It was going to be mandatory for young adults.

[kittycat]

That is completely untrue. He never once said force or draft. He was offering an option for those that wanted to earn extra money for college, and was encouraging others to volunteer time for their country, or join the peace corp, national guard, etc - which is only an expansion of the current environment where we ask citizens to join the military. Whomever gave you that information was not only wrong - but never read his plans or listened to a single speech he ever gave.

[HeathJS28]

I guess my question is WHY? Why do this?

[kittycat]

Why not? Do you think our country isn't in need of it's own rebuilding, support and security? Don't you think public service announcements involving our national gaurd, peace corp, volunteerism/community organizing, etc shouldn't come from our President? Because when the next natural disaster or financial devastation occurs in a rural community, etc - they're going to need to rely on the support of people from other states/surrounding communities for help. Not to mention we need to rebuild our national gaurd and other stateside security measures, that have been neglected.

[HeathJS28]

Why not? Do you think our country isn't in need of it's own rebuilding, support and security? Don't you think public service announcements involving our national gaurd, peace corp, volunteerism/community organizing, etc shouldn't come from our President? Because when the next natural disaster or financial devastation occurs in a rural community, etc - they're going to need to rely on the support of people from other states/surrounding communities for help. Not to mention we need to rebuild our national gaurd and other stateside security measures, that have been neglected.[/b]

I do agree. It just shocked me honestly because I didn't expect it from a democrat to support our millitary. Clinton left a bad taste in my mouth about millitary.

[kittycat]

I do agree. It just shocked me honestly because I didn't expect it from a democrat to support our millitary. Clinton left a bad taste in my mouth about millitary.
[/b]

Since when do democrats not support the military? I've never heard of that. We might not support letting them set the agenda for the country, or giving them unlimited and unconditional funding - but I don't know a single person that doesn't support our military. If anything, we just want to make sure that they're used wisely, and when they are used - have the tools necessary to go to war. Not substandard equipment, and all that nonsense Rumsfeld tried to justify, that only led to more needless deaths and wounded soldiers.

[BonitaAppleBomb]

Since when do democrats not support the military? I've never heard of that. We might not support letting them set the agenda for the country, or giving them unlimited and unconditional funding - but I don't know a single person that doesn't support our military. If anything, we just want to make sure that they're used wisely, and when they are used - have the tools necessary to go to war. Not substandard equipment, and all that nonsense Rumsfeld tried to justify, that only led to more needless deaths and wounded soldiers.
[/b]

Great post Katra. I agree completely!

[HeathJS28]

oh I don't know...I just remember things like this during that time.

http://clintoncrimes.tripod.com/ClintonsBi...andals/id7.html

National defense is the only major category of federal spending to decline between FY 1990 and FY 2000. Republicans have added some $29.5 billion to Clinton's defense requests since 1995, but even with these significant increases, Clinton's reductions have been so great that defense spending still has not kept pace with inflation[/b]

If there were another military flare-up somewhere else in the world, the United States would not have the military resources to respond. It is already necessary to divert planes from their patrol over the Iraqi No Fly Zone in order to fly Kosovo missions.[/b]

[M!che!!e]

i posted a ton of links in support of obama supporting the military, since he always had, a few months back. i know there are people here (general) just waiting for him to fail in every aspect but this call to service isn't too surprising if you know his track record.

for the record, clinton wasn't the only dem we have had in office. i don't understand why people base their expectations on this president on what clinton did in office. this isn't the first time i have read some association to clinton, in order to bash, be posted on the boards and the association just doesn't make any sense.

[snarfess]

i posted a ton of links in support of obama supporting the military, since he always had, a few months back. i know there are people here (general) just waiting for him to fail in every aspect but this call to service isn't too surprising if you know his track record.

for the record, clinton wasn't the only dem we have had in office. i don't understand why people base their expectations on this president on what clinton did in office. this isn't the first time i have read some association to clinton, in order to bash, be posted on the boards and the association just doesn't make any sense.[/b]

I agree with the bolded. I also notice this with Bush and people trying to compare him to other republican candidates, all while bashing.

[kittycat]

I agree with the bolded. I also notice this with Bush and people trying to compare him to other republican candidates, all while bashing.

[/b]
Could it be because they supported his stance and agree with his ideology?

[snarfess]

[/b]
Could it be because they supported his stance and agree with his ideology?
[/b]

I knew you would make a comment. You always do. Maybe, maybe not to your question. You can agree in someways, but not completely and I am sure you know that. It is like you say McCain was just like Bush.... You have said it Katra. The funny thing is he wasn't nearly as much like Bush as you or the MSM thought. I didn't even really like McCain, I wanted someone else. Each time I would see comments from MSM that would try to make them out to be the same person. They weren't even CLOSE.... That is another topic for a different thread though...

Could it be the same way in a lot of the dems cases? Katra, it is a two way street whether you want it to be or not. I am just agreeing that no one is exactly like the person before them or anyone else for that matter. So if you want one side to be nice, you should do the same for the other side. That is just common sense.

What is good for the goose is good for the gander...