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June 27th, 2009, 08:12 PM
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Do you think it is inappropriate for a little girl to be in just a diaper in front of company...in the backyard, at the beach, etc... Is your opinion on a girl different from how you feel about little boys at that same age? If you think being topless is okay....at what age does it stop being okay?
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June 27th, 2009, 08:22 PM
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To me, at puberty is a definite "top-on". I think starting around age 9-10 (periods can start this young, mine did) and development is happening. The age of innocence at least in body develoment, is gone at that point and a shirt should be worn

Babies, and small little girls even like at age 5-6, topless is harmless to me. How is it different from a little boy at that age? I can think of my 7 year old niece though, where it would just seem really inappropriate for her to be running around topless
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June 27th, 2009, 08:23 PM
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At or before age 3, to me, is around the age that it is no longer okay. But considering that I don't have kids that age my opinion could change when I'm actually having to deal with it.
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June 27th, 2009, 08:30 PM
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My mom's friend had a little girl who would come home, and take off her shirt. She grew out of it by the time she was about 5. Now if you tell her she did it, she won't believe you. I say 5-6, at which point we need to discuss shirts on.

Actually for me, that goes with both genders inless you're at the beach or just bumming around the house with family. Pet peeve of mine to see little boys just walking around without their shirts on. Not sure why, just a pet peeve. Teach children to wear a shirt in public. All children, regardless of gender.
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June 28th, 2009, 05:43 AM
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I dont' care for my children to be naked in front of anyone. My almost 3 y/o son is required to wear at least undies and shorts. I prefer for them all (boys included) to wear shirts unless they are swimming or doing water play (or getting super hot working outside)

Neither of my DD's are ever topless around anyone even at the ages of 8 mos and 6 years. I just don't see the point of them running around topless. I teach my girls from a young age that decency is important. It's not a matter of shaming them or making them feel awkward about their bodies.

(adding here that I don't see anything wrong w/ my 8 m/o being topless... I just don't do it. )
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June 28th, 2009, 05:54 AM
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The only time my daughter doesn't have a shirt or shorts on is if we are at home. If we have company or are out I like her to be dressed. If we are staying with the inlaws for the weekend she is usually dressed but sometimes MIL lets her run around without a shirt on.

I think that it would be different with a boy for me. Not because at this age it is some sexual thing but because boys ARE different from girls. I do not believe that treating little boys different from little girls in this way will cause shame issues. Honestly I think it will only lead to more confusion when the time comes to say "Hey you have to put on a shirt now." while brother is still running around without one.
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June 28th, 2009, 07:02 AM
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I can't even think of how to word this.

I plan on teaching my children to wear clothing at all times. I don't like seeing people running around shirtless unless we're at the beach or a pool (or in their own back yard), and I wouldn't want to see my children doing it either.

Summer's in our house will require a child to be wearing a swim suit if they are not in clothes. Most likely, I will MAKE my children wear shirts unless they are fully submerged in water just as a small effort to keep their skin safer (and swimming in a shirt is no fun, and harder than it needs to be). In side I may be a bit lenient if it is very hot, if it's not, clothes on.

I will add, I hate seeing a kid running around in nothing but a diaper. I don't know why, but I do.
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June 28th, 2009, 07:13 AM
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I can't even think of how to word this.

I plan on teaching my children to wear clothing at all times. I don't like seeing people running around shirtless unless we're at the beach or a pool (or in their own back yard), and I wouldn't want to see my children doing it either.

Summer's in our house will require a child to be wearing a swim suit if they are not in clothes. Most likely, I will MAKE my children wear shirts unless they are fully submerged in water just as a small effort to keep their skin safer (and swimming in a shirt is no fun, and harder than it needs to be). In side I may be a bit lenient if it is very hot, if it's not, clothes on.

I will add, I hate seeing a kid running around in nothing but a diaper. I don't know why, but I do.
Thats how we are too. I am not a fan of "letting it all hang out," and for me that also includes wearing slippers and/or ratty sweatpants to the store. I think while our society is far too prudish on some things, in the appearances departments we're all so casual its fine to go out in public looking like we rolled in the gutter. I was not raised like that, neither will be my kids. Besides, I think people feel better about themselves when they take care of themselves. That doesn't mean you have to be a fashion plate, but geez- through on some decent pants and comb your hair!
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June 28th, 2009, 07:30 AM
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Thats how we are too. I am not a fan of "letting it all hang out," and for me that also includes wearing slippers and/or ratty sweatpants to the store. I think while our society is far too prudish on some things, in the appearances departments we're all so casual its fine to go out in public looking like we rolled in the gutter. I was not raised like that, neither will be my kids. Besides, I think people feel better about themselves when they take care of themselves. That doesn't mean you have to be a fashion plate, but geez- through on some decent pants and comb your hair!
I am very much the same way. Yes, I can easily leave the house with out brushing my hair, that's just the way my hair is and I'm almost always in a pony tail (it looked better yesterday when I didn't brush it than it does today when I did lol) But you'll be hard pressed to get me to leave the house in my PJ pants except when I'm taking the garbage out. I'll go in the car if I don't have to get out in my jammies and a sweater, but you will NEVER catch me in the mall with them on.

My issue with it all probably stems from the fact I personally hate being naked. I need a towel or a sheet or my robe to be comfy.
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June 28th, 2009, 07:40 AM
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My daughter Noelia (who will be 14 months old on the 1st) is always naked! lol.Its HOT,and when we take her swimming,she doesnt wear a bathing suit or a diaper,she goes naked.Being as its the summer,and we are around our own pool,we also let her run around without a diaper on,and we´re fine with that,but again,Europe isnt as uptight about nakedness so its the norm to see little kids running around like that kwim? Even if you have a visitor,no one runs off to cover up their kids...they´re kids!
Having a toddler run around naked saves alot of diapers!
At the beach yesturday,there was a whole bunch of little kids building castles in the sand,and NONE were wearing anything at all.More power to them! I wish I could walk around like that in this heat!

My oldest daughter is almost 10 (she´ll be 10 in July) and this is the first year she has wanted to start wearing a bikini (just the bottom half)..last year,she was still running around naked too,and again,its the norm and its fine.
She wont wear the top part though,just the bottoms,and I dont see why she should ever have to wear the top part of she doesnt want to,that will be up to her.Going topless is perfectly fine.

As babies/toddlers,my kids never wore bathing suits or much at all during the summer.Its just how people are around here.
Infact,a friend of mine from England just sent over a few little bathers for Noelia,and my mom was like "what on earth does a baby need those for?" lol.
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I never really had DD run around naked or topless. Now, at 3 1/2, she definitely has a shirt on - more so to teach her about what is private. In our society it's not OK to run around naked when you're older (~adolescence) and I'm afraid that not teaching her what's private (her chest, etc.) will open strange doors when she's older.
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June 28th, 2009, 10:32 AM
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I think around kindergarten age you should probably start stressing the importance of being covered up in public (so you don't have a child stripping down in class )

My dd runs around naked at home sometimes, but never outside. The only time she's naked in public is when she is getting changed after swimming at the lake. She's incredibly modest in public and doesn't like to be exposed so I guess that's a good thing. Especially since we live in Canada and not Europe lol I do like that nudity isn't something that is shamed over there though. What other mammals have to keep completely covered at all times?
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I will add, I hate seeing a kid running around in nothing but a diaper. I don't know why, but I do.
Oh, but it's so cute. Do you mean running around the house or running around, like, a restaurant?

As for the original question, I've never really thought about it. I guess, until it seems weird?

I don't have a problem with toddlers running around in undies or dipes, but I wouldn't take my child (boy or girl) to, say, the grocery store without a shirt.
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June 28th, 2009, 12:07 PM
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I think it's okay at home until about 2-3 yrs old. Then they need to learn to keep clothes on.

My daughter just turned 4 in May and she is required to be dressed at all times. I think the same goes for boys. Even in the teen years. If my daughter has to cover up her chest to be in public swimming then so do my sons. My boys are required to wear a t-shirt if swimming in public. I expect the same of my sons that I do of my daughters.
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I think the same goes for boys. Even in the teen years. If my daughter has to cover up her chest to be in public swimming then so do my sons. My boys are required to wear a t-shirt if swimming in public. I expect the same of my sons that I do of my daughters.
Just FYI, unless they're wearing a wet-shirt (a shirt designed for in-water use), they most likely wouldn't be allowed to wear, say, a cotton t-shirt if they're enrolled in swim classes (cotton t's can weigh a kid down if they're struggling/drowning, etc., so most of the instructors I know don't allow them).
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My boys are required to wear a t-shirt if swimming in public.
Isnt that going a bit too far? Making a boy wear a t-shirt in a pool is just strange
What boy (of any age) wears a t-shirt in the water because their mom thinks its inopropriate to show his bare chest?
(if it were to protect him from the sun..then fine).

If people want to cover their little girls,then I can totally understand and respect why (not everyone lives here! lol) but to make a boy wear a t-shirt in a pool seems weird to me,and at a certain age,I can see the poor kid being embaressed by having to wear one when the other boys arent..especialy if he says "its because my mom doesnt want anyone looking at my boobs" kwim?
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Isnt that going a bit too far? Making a boy wear a t-shirt in a pool is just strange
What boy (of any age) wears a t-shirt in the water because their mom thinks its inopropriate to show his bare chest?
(if it were to protect him from the sun..then fine).

If people want to cover their little girls,then I can totally understand and respect why (not everyone lives here! lol) but to make a boy wear a t-shirt in a pool seems weird to me,and at a certain age,I can see the poor kid being embaressed by having to wear one when the other boys arent..especialy if he says "its because my mom doesnt want anyone looking at my boobs" kwim?
Ita!!

Girls need to wear shirts / tops because they should learn to keep their breasts private. Boys don't have boobs. . . what's the point in making them wear a shirt?
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June 28th, 2009, 07:15 PM
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I mostly say to each their own. I have a boy, 3.5 . I prefer him to have a shirt on, but on hot days if he wants to take it off I let him(if we are at home, not in public). I am not sure at what age I no longer feel its appropriate for a girl to go around topless. My 7 year old niece was going around topless at her house recently in front of her parents and her 12 year old and 11 year old brother, and despite not having breasts yet, I still felt it was inapropriate, but, not my business if her parents allow it.

On babies in diapers... I have no problem boy or girl. On a super hot summer day, I'd rather them in just a diaper.
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