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October 7th, 2009, 07:31 PM
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So on the weekend someone remarked to my 21 month old when she asked for a sip of her beer "i'd give you a sip but your mom is just too picky about that right now".

i'm picky because i don't see the need to let my toddler have sips of alcohol??? Now, I would like to say that this woman does not give her children copious amounts of alcohol so no need to report her to child services, but she would let them have a sip or two when they were little.

What do you think? Is it okay to give your toddler tastes of beer?

I remember drinking the bottom dribble out of my dad's beer bottle (and liking it) but I was never given full sips out of a full beer. Maybe one sip isn't the problem, the problem lays if the child develops a taste for it and starts grabbing sips out of everyone's beer, whether the adult knows it or not, and then ends up drunk and in the ER. Personally I'm not risking it. Even if that makes me "picky". Better picky than with a child with alcohol poisoning and children's services investigating.
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October 7th, 2009, 07:44 PM
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Personally, I think it's outrageous to give a toddler or child alcohol. I'd never give Chloe a sip of mine.

I know people who think it's cute cause the toddler will make a weird face, but it's not cute. Definitely not cute!

I had my first taste of alcohol around 15 or 16. And that was still too early.
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October 7th, 2009, 07:44 PM
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Even though I am sure one sip is not going to hurt anyone I just don't think its appropriate and its not sending the right message at all. Some things are only for adults and thats it. Kids need to know their are limits to what the can and can't have.
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October 7th, 2009, 08:53 PM
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It isn't a big deal to me. I would never give a child who wasn't my own any sip of anything and I would be upset if someone else gave my child a sip. I've never given my 2 year old a sip of beer but I think my husband has - can't really remember. It just isn't something that bothers me when I see it and I wouldn't get upset if my toddler picked up a beer and took a sip - I would just take it away and say that it is only for adults.
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October 7th, 2009, 09:06 PM
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To be honest, I would not give my toddler sips of alcohol, but my parents did for me. At a young age they let me have a few sips, and when I was maybe 12 or 13 I got drunk with my sister who was 20, and my parents knew. I never had to hide it, I never had that "Ooooh alcohol!!" mindset because it wasn't something tabboo. I learned to drink responsibly because I never had to sneak around my parents. I remember being 16 or so at parties, my parents would pick me up from a party, they knew I was drinking, and they let me do so responsibly. I was never afraid to call my parents if I was drinking and have them pick me up.

So at that age, I don't think its wrong. I'd rather not make it taboo and teach responsibility, some may think it is wrong, but it worked for me and my family. As a small child I had sips of alcohol, I won't do that for Lily yet (she's almost 6) but I don't intend on making it a horribly taboo subject. I'd rather teach responsibility.
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October 7th, 2009, 09:12 PM
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No, I don't think a toddler should be having alcohol, even if it's just sips. Alcohol is kind of like one of those "earned privilege" things, lol... I don't have a problem with a teen of 13 or 14 or 15 having a very very small glass of wine at a family dinner, and being able to have the chance to be responsible about it. Most European countries have that sort of tradition and young adults there aren't all raging alcoholics.
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October 7th, 2009, 10:34 PM
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No, I don't think it's okay and I don't think it's okay for anyone else to use the excuse that a child's parents are "too picky" to give them a sip. That's ridiculous! I went to a cookout at one of dh's coworker's house and the coworker's brother actually poured some kind of alcohol (not beer, hard liquor) into his kid's sippy cup!!! I was sooo shocked. I told my dh I didn't wanna hang out with these kind of people anymore. He said "that's just how they are, they're not like us" What is "how they are?" STUPID??

the ONLY time my child has tasted alcohol, and i was ashamed then and still am, i was carrying him on my hip to the car, and i had a styrofoam cup in my other hand (a margarita). While I was fumbling for the keys I switched hands holding the cup and when I stuck the key in the store I looked at him and the straw was in his mouth and he was talking a sip. He told me "icee!" and I was like "oh no! That's mommy's icee!" I know he didn't get much but I felt like such a terrible mom. I would NEVER purposely let him taste anything with alcohol in it or allow anyone else to give it to him. what is wrong with people??
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October 7th, 2009, 10:35 PM
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October 8th, 2009, 04:48 AM
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I can't believe this is even a debate. Never would I have thought ANYONE would give a TODDLER a sip of alcohol.....
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October 8th, 2009, 05:23 AM
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My neighbor's husband has done it on a ton of occasions, he thinks it's hilarious. I can't imagine giving it to my toddler...my 4 year old..and in most cases, my teenager. I don't even give her soda or juice lol
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October 8th, 2009, 05:52 AM
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I can't believe this is even a debate. Never would I have thought ANYONE would give a TODDLER a sip of alcohol.....
I agree! Just the thought of anyone drinking/sipping alcohol that is not of LEGAL drinking age is absurd and beyond my scope of comprehension.
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October 8th, 2009, 06:02 AM
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No, I do not think its ok to give toddlers sips of beer and have no idea why anyone would.
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October 8th, 2009, 06:32 AM
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Lots of people do it, my Dad did it. I remember being 9 years old having my own little glass of port to go with his. I remember my grandfather giving me my own can of beer when I was 3 and letting me drink it. My mother never knew.

And if anyone tried that with my kids, I'd be in jail with a battery charge.
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October 8th, 2009, 06:42 AM
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No way. Would I judge someone harshly for it? Probably not, but I would never do that myself. If our daughter had a sip by accident, I wouldn't flip out I would just explain adult versus child drinks.
My daughter is OBSESSED with trying to drink out of our alcoholic drinks. I swear she can smell if there is alcohol in it or not because if it's water or tea she could care less but wine or beer she just knows. I constantly have to find new places to set them because she figures out how to get to them. On occasion, I keep an old plastic bottle of a mini margarita that has been cleaned out so no alcohol remains and I let her pretend to drink out of it so I can have a few sips of my own drink without her climbing all over me. I'm sure if someone peeked through our window, they'd think I let her drink! Especially because she walks around going "MMMMMMM so good." LOL.
For the record, I typically only have a glass with dinner and then when it's her bed time I'll have more drinks. Unless it's a bad day- then I start at noon fair game.









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October 8th, 2009, 07:04 AM
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it bugs me when people do that. I don't agree with giving kids alcohol until they're much older. My first real sip (other than snagging a beer when I was like 3 and throwing it up on the floor at the first drink) was when I was like 13.

My aunt's little girl once grabbed my drink and took a sip. This was odd for her, because she doesn't like sprite (yes, bad me, rum in the single serve sprite bottle) and took a swig. I wore that sip of liquid. She still doesn't drink pop. I'd never have given it to her. I have let her have a "smell" of what I'm drinking. She won't take any drink from me with out a sniff because she still remembers my sprite and rum.
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October 8th, 2009, 07:33 AM
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I agree! Just the thought of anyone drinking/sipping alcohol that is not of LEGAL drinking age is absurd and beyond my scope of comprehension.

I'm not saying I advocate it or think it is a good thing to do but I'm really just confused as to what the big deal is. Do you think the toddler will become hooked after one sip? Do you think it would lead to a 5 year old drinking whole beers? I guess I view as on the same level as giving a 2 year old a sip of soda - something I haven't done but certainly don't think it is a huge deal.
Let's do the math for a second - my 2 year old son weighs 30 pounds so that is 1/4 of my weight. If he has a sip of beer (which is what this post is about - not whole drinks or putting beer in a sippy cup) that is AT THE MOST about 1/10 of an ounce - probably a lot less cause a little kid sip would be a tiny amount. So, if we are talking a 12oz beer that is 1/120th of the beer or the equivalent of me drinking 1/30th of a beer or less than 1/2 an once. So, the issue can't really be that the child is ingesting alcohol is it? I would imagine a tot would ingest more alcohol by licking his hands after using hand sanitizers as they have a fairly high alcohol content.

Out of curiousity what exactly about it beyond comprehension? I'm honestly curious because I wasnt expecting these kind of strong reactions so I'm trying to figure at what angle people are coming at this from. Wrong like giving a tot soda is wrong? Wrong because legal drinking age is 21? Wrong because you think it will lead to that child drinking more heavily?
And I'm not one that takes drinking lightly - I grew up in a house with a recovering alcoholic for a father - we never had a drop of any kind of alcohol in our house except cooking wine. I would never allow my child to drink and I would never look the other way if I thought my teen was involved in drinking - I just don't view giving a 3 year old a sip on that same level at all.
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October 8th, 2009, 07:55 AM
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I'm not saying I advocate it or think it is a good thing to do but I'm really just confused as to what the big deal is. Do you think the toddler will become hooked after one sip? Do you think it would lead to a 5 year old drinking whole beers? I guess I view as on the same level as giving a 2 year old a sip of soda - something I haven't done but certainly don't think it is a huge deal.
Let's do the math for a second - my 2 year old son weighs 30 pounds so that is 1/4 of my weight. If he has a sip of beer (which is what this post is about - not whole drinks or putting beer in a sippy cup) that is AT THE MOST about 1/10 of an ounce - probably a lot less cause a little kid sip would be a tiny amount. So, if we are talking a 12oz beer that is 1/120th of the beer or the equivalent of me drinking 1/30th of a beer or less than 1/2 an once. So, the issue can't really be that the child is ingesting alcohol is it? I would imagine a tot would ingest more alcohol by licking his hands after using hand sanitizers as they have a fairly high alcohol content.

Out of curiousity what exactly about it beyond comprehension? I'm honestly curious because I wasnt expecting these kind of strong reactions so I'm trying to figure at what angle people are coming at this from. Wrong like giving a tot soda is wrong? Wrong because legal drinking age is 21? Wrong because you think it will lead to that child drinking more heavily?
And I'm not one that takes drinking lightly - I grew up in a house with a recovering alcoholic for a father - we never had a drop of any kind of alcohol in our house except cooking wine. I would never allow my child to drink and I would never look the other way if I thought my teen was involved in drinking - I just don't view giving a 3 year old a sip on that same level at all.
It's wrong because its alcohol and a toddler. I didn't realize anyone would actually think it'd be okay? I'm surprised. I wouldn't give my toddler soda/pop either. But I think that is wrong on a different level than alcohol. Alcohol is for adults, not children. Then I have to wonder, WHY would you give a sip to your child? Because they're curious? Kids are curious about a lot of things, but that doesn't mean you let them do it. Why not give them something else to drink and say, "No, this is mommy's drink"?
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I'm not saying I advocate it or think it is a good thing to do but I'm really just confused as to what the big deal is. Do you think the toddler will become hooked after one sip? Do you think it would lead to a 5 year old drinking whole beers? I guess I view as on the same level as giving a 2 year old a sip of soda - something I haven't done but certainly don't think it is a huge deal.
Let's do the math for a second - my 2 year old son weighs 30 pounds so that is 1/4 of my weight. If he has a sip of beer (which is what this post is about - not whole drinks or putting beer in a sippy cup) that is AT THE MOST about 1/10 of an ounce - probably a lot less cause a little kid sip would be a tiny amount. So, if we are talking a 12oz beer that is 1/120th of the beer or the equivalent of me drinking 1/30th of a beer or less than 1/2 an once. So, the issue can't really be that the child is ingesting alcohol is it? I would imagine a tot would ingest more alcohol by licking his hands after using hand sanitizers as they have a fairly high alcohol content.

Out of curiousity what exactly about it beyond comprehension? I'm honestly curious because I wasnt expecting these kind of strong reactions so I'm trying to figure at what angle people are coming at this from. Wrong like giving a tot soda is wrong? Wrong because legal drinking age is 21? Wrong because you think it will lead to that child drinking more heavily?
And I'm not one that takes drinking lightly - I grew up in a house with a recovering alcoholic for a father - we never had a drop of any kind of alcohol in our house except cooking wine. I would never allow my child to drink and I would never look the other way if I thought my teen was involved in drinking - I just don't view giving a 3 year old a sip on that same level at all.
Let's see if I can take a stab at this:
BECAUSE IT'S ILLEGAL.

I don't know about you, but that is enough reason for me right there, not to mention the risky health ramifications. If it was ok to give a minor alcohol, then people wouldn't go to jail for it and prison for doing so. If you wish to calculate body weight up against the amount of alcohol that a toddler can ingest without getting sick, then go for it. I'm not a doctor. I'm not skilled at that, so I wouldn't take that risk. But that's just me and how I think. Yes I think it's absurd and beyond my scope of comprehension, but for me there is no way around that.
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October 8th, 2009, 08:05 AM
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I just don't see the point of giving a toddler alcohol, and don't see it as a good idea. No, I don't think one sip is going to really hurt them, but I don't want my child to see alcohol as something they're allowed.

I did actually let my mom give Mackenzie a drop of wine on her finger so that she could see she wouldn't like it and stopped grabbing at the glass but that was literally a taste, not even a sip. She likes the smell of beer, so no way am I going to give her some and let her think it's something she's allowed to have. What I really didn't appreciate in the situation in my OP was being called "picky" because I wouldn't do it. Um.... my kid drinks out of the dog's bowls. I don't think "picky" is the right word to describe my parenting (note: I don't encourage the drinking from the dog's bowls, I just don't freak out when it happens.... )
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If my child got a sip I wouldn't sweat it, but I am not planning to give him a sip. I have seen it a ton while I was growing up & I am certain I was probably even allowed a sip here or there. I have seen MOST kids hate it & I think parents do it to quit being bothered...like if they let a child try it, they will hate it & not ask anymore. That has been my take on it anyway. Overall I think it is pretty innocuous when done that way. Now if a parent is actually providing alcohol to drink to their toddler then of course that is ludicrous & out of line. As far as it being an issue of "legal" age - I think we covered that already & it really depends on your state. For instance, in the Catholic Church I made my first communion, including a sip of wine, at the age of 7. There is nothing illegal about that...likewise there is nothing illegal (in my state) in giving a 7 yr old a sip of wine in your own home... Now if you are getting a child that age drunk, then that certainly could be subject to neglect, endangerment & other laws I am sure...but a sip...totally different arena.

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