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  #81  
June 15th, 2010, 02:37 PM
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So JenntheMomma, my aunt just had a baby on the 5th of june. She's has NO breastmilk. She's been looked at, had an ultrasound of her breast done. nothing. dry as a bone.

does that mean that since formula is going to kill her baby we should just let her starve? It seems that the 8oz she gained in 6 days is in reality a good thing, yay for Goodstart with Omega!
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Seriously? That is so dramatic! She already said:

Like I said, I have no disrepsect for women who decide to formula feed. All my friends/family do, I don't care that they do. Formula is a life saver for some, it's essential for some, but for others it's just a convenience. Whatever reason you decide to formula feed, is up to you.
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June 15th, 2010, 03:14 PM
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There's a pretty big difference between judging the way formula is manufactured and marketed, and judging the people who use the product.

The fact of the matter is that formula saves more lives than it takes, and almost every lactivist is aware of that. Except for those random people in Walmart that seem to always be in the formula aisle, waiting to tell mothers how evil it is.
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June 15th, 2010, 03:18 PM
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I wasn't really arguing with you, just thinking out loud. I have no idea why the stuff is so expensive.. but now I do wonder how much it costs in Australia where there's no marketing. I just think that even if they don't market it, it will STILL be expensive because people will STILL pay that much. The Walmart brand is so cheap because Walmart sells things barely above cost, and sometimes below it. As does Target.
Even if we take store brands off the table and look at lesser-known name brand formulas, Bright Beginnings for example, costs a good 30% less than Enfamil, Similac and Nestle, mainly because they do not market to medical professionals and their advertising is minimal. Heck, you can even get organic infant formula from Horizon, Earth's Best and Baby's Only for the same price (and sometimes even less) as the non-organic Enfamil, Similac and Nestle. Again, no marketing to medical professionals and minimal consumer advertising.

Another reason why the 3 national brands are more expensive is because those are the brands covered under WIC; stores often mark up the cost of the WIC-approved brands because they are reimbursed at the retail price, not the wholesale price (what it costs the stores to stock the items).
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June 15th, 2010, 03:21 PM
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I think it's really dumb the WIC makes their families buy the name brand. It's pointless for one thing, and then it also screws the families whenever they have to buy their OWN formula to cover what WIC doesn't. Because you're not supposed to randomly switch brands of formula on your baby, so once your WIC formula runs out you're forced to buy the most expensive product out there for the rest of the month.
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June 15th, 2010, 05:58 PM
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I wasn't really arguing with you, just thinking out loud. I have no idea why the stuff is so expensive.. but now I do wonder how much it costs in Australia where there's no marketing. I just think that even if they don't market it, it will STILL be expensive because people will STILL pay that much. The Walmart brand is so cheap because Walmart sells things barely above cost, and sometimes below it. As does Target.



Hm. interesting thought. I always assumed the older toddler formula was just to make money, and never really thought about the advertising angle of marketing it.

Canada has the same laws. Formula can't be advertised on TV or in Canadian magazines. (or at least thats the way I understand it, the only time I've ever seen a formula add it an amarican channel or magazine) Now I don't know about hospitals in bigger cities, but you never see any formula adds in our hospital. Unless you ask for formula you don't even see it. The name things used to have Similac on them, but then the hospital switched to Enfamil and now the tags have no name.

No one here gets a goody bag before leaving the hospitals either. No coupons for anything, not even diapers no free formula samples. Also while its not illigal to get samples you actually have to request them here.

And yet as far as I can tell the formula prices are the same as in the US.
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June 15th, 2010, 06:46 PM
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^^Formula can be advertised in Canada, though Canada has stringent more guidelines in place for advertising claims. But, this article describes how the "crack down" hasn't helped much Canadian infant formula crackdown fails to make baby steps
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June 15th, 2010, 07:20 PM
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^^Formula can be advertised in Canada, though Canada has stringent more guidelines in place for advertising claims. But, this article describes how the "crack down" hasn't helped much Canadian infant formula crackdown fails to make baby steps

Thanks still though I have never seen one in a Canadian medium
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June 15th, 2010, 09:09 PM
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You know what thought? I can't remember the last time I saw a formula ad here either; I know they're there, but I'm not looking for them so I really don't notice them. On the occasion I actually get to read a magazine, I'm looking at the articles nor the ads.
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June 15th, 2010, 09:13 PM
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I saw one the other day, but that's the only one I recall seeing recently. I remember seeing other ones, and making a random observation that the babies in formula commercials are wearing cloth diapers, lol.
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June 15th, 2010, 09:25 PM
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I saw one the other day, but that's the only one I recall seeing recently. I remember seeing other ones, and making a random observation that the babies in formula commercials are wearing cloth diapers, lol.
But was it an amarican or canadian channel? I see the adds sometimes on the amarican channels. Though most times I don't pay attention
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June 15th, 2010, 11:14 PM
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You know what thought? I can't remember the last time I saw a formula ad here either; I know they're there, but I'm not looking for them so I really don't notice them. On the occasion I actually get to read a magazine, I'm looking at the articles nor the ads.
I know what you mean! I don't have cable and the last time I seen a formula ad was in my doctor's office. I don't go there too often.
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June 16th, 2010, 07:23 AM
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But was it an amarican or canadian channel? I see the adds sometimes on the amarican channels. Though most times I don't pay attention
Being as I'm in Florida, I don't think I get too many Canadian television stations. I was commenting on the idea that even in the states, where they are allowed to advertise, they don't do it so much that it even sticks out in my head. However, I admit that I mostly watch the Disney channel, which only has Disney commercials, and Cartoon Network which mostly has "mom I want that!" commercials, lol.

My doctor's office doesn't advertise formula. He also doesn't hand out formula until a mom specifically says "I'm not breast feeding anymore."
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June 16th, 2010, 07:42 AM
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Being as I'm in Florida, I don't think I get too many Canadian television stations. I was commenting on the idea that even in the states, where they are allowed to advertise, they don't do it so much that it even sticks out in my head. However, I admit that I mostly watch the Disney channel, which only has Disney commercials, and Cartoon Network which mostly has "mom I want that!" commercials, lol.

My doctor's office doesn't advertise formula. He also doesn't hand out formula until a mom specifically says "I'm not breast feeding anymore."
DUH I knew that LOL brain fart

my doctors office doesn't have adds either. Neither does the hospital, or OB/GYN offices. No samples either lol

although I am very proud to say that when DD had to be hospitalised when she was a baby and I needed to pump they gave me a pump to use, free of charge, compleat with storage bags, and space to store the BM. I remember how thrilled they were when I asked for a pump I think its great that they're so BF friendly here.

Its better balenced now though then it was with DD#1. With her if you didn't BF the nurses tended to look down on you When I switched to formula after I hemeraged and didn't have the strength to BF, I could hold my baby never mind BF her, all the help and support I had while BF was suddenly pulled out from under me. I wrote a very strong worded letter to the hospital administration after that because it devistated me even more then I already was with having failed in the first place.

Formula is still never offered, and LC's are always on staff (I arranged for one to come before DD#2 was even born) Pumps are there, heck even nipple shields are there for those who need them. Now though if you need formula they are expected to treat you with the same respect they do for BFing. Which is the way it should be.
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June 16th, 2010, 08:22 AM
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I think it varies by region and hospital policy here, as well. The hospital where ds was born, he was fed formula behind my back and I was given a whole bag of samples to take home. Dd was born at a different hospital just a few miles down the road, and formula was never even mentioned once I told them I was breastfeeding. There were formula coupons in the breastfeeding mom's take-home bag, though. Of the two doctor's offices we have used, neither had any formula posters or advertisements, just breastfeeding stuff. Its interesting because formula feeding is the norm here, by far.
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June 16th, 2010, 09:55 AM
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I noticed when my aunt was in the hospital that a lot of the posters on the wall weren't about formula, but they were sponsored by the formula companies. You'd see a lil "Similac" icon in the corner, but no mention.

I'd assume that this kind of promotion happens all over. Doesn't say "Buy our formula!" but it does say "Look, we can promote with pretty pictures".

But the canadian gov't does recomend Goodstart formula if you're not breastfeeding, it's in the guides and packets for supplimenting.
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June 16th, 2010, 11:13 AM
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I noticed when my aunt was in the hospital that a lot of the posters on the wall weren't about formula, but they were sponsored by the formula companies. You'd see a lil "Similac" icon in the corner, but no mention.

I'd assume that this kind of promotion happens all over. Doesn't say "Buy our formula!" but it does say "Look, we can promote with pretty pictures".

But the canadian gov't does recomend Goodstart formula if you're not breastfeeding, it's in the guides and packets for supplimenting.
I remember seeing a few of those when our hospital used similac with my first. With the second they had switched to Enfamil and I didn't see them anymore when I had DD#2 or when I've visited friends who've had babies.

I have a friend due anytime now, when I go visit her I'll take a look.
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