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June 13th, 2010, 03:12 PM
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June 13th, 2010, 03:50 PM
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I'm torn on this because it kind of hits home. My mother in law is a convicted felon. She stole upwards of $30,000 from her old place of employment. It ended in a jail sentence in which she served her time, and she is paying back the agreed amount that they settled on. She had a gambling addiction. She went and still goes to meetings, and hasn't even played so much as a lottery ticket since about 2007 or 2008. She's not the same person anymore. I know she would never put her family in jeopardy like that again. It almost ruined the family. Now, she can't find a decent job. I know the saying, "Well she made her bed now she has to lie in it" but I don't know. I think she is deserving of a good job so that she can take care of her family. I don't think she needs to be told she can't have a good job because of the felony on her record. She did the time, and is still paying for it.

On the other hand, I do think employers have right to know who is working for them, and should know if their employees have any past felonies that could effect their job.

So I'm not totally sure where I stand on this.
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June 13th, 2010, 04:13 PM
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Yes, I think it should be required.

I am all about giving second chances and giving people the benefit of the doubt, but if someone had been convicted of a felony I would want to know before I hired them. In my case the family owned business is what put food in our mouth so we had to hire based on a good trustworthy record. Our business couldn't take a chance because it was all we had.
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June 13th, 2010, 04:29 PM
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I'm torn on this because it kind of hits home. My mother in law is a convicted felon. She stole upwards of $30,000 from her old place of employment. It ended in a jail sentence in which she served her time, and she is paying back the agreed amount that they settled on. She had a gambling addiction. She went and still goes to meetings, and hasn't even played so much as a lottery ticket since about 2007 or 2008. She's not the same person anymore. I know she would never put her family in jeopardy like that again. It almost ruined the family. Now, she can't find a decent job. I know the saying, "Well she made her bed now she has to lie in it" but I don't know. I think she is deserving of a good job so that she can take care of her family. I don't think she needs to be told she can't have a good job because of the felony on her record. She did the time, and is still paying for it.

On the other hand, I do think employers have right to know who is working for them, and should know if their employees have any past felonies that could effect their job.

So I'm not totally sure where I stand on this.
This. Exactly. Your story hits very close to home for me as well. I have a super close family member that went through the exact scenario as your mother-in-law. However, unlike your mil, she has bounced back completely and continued with her career in a new place after all was said and done. Her husband stood by her while she was away. Once released she had a baby, they built a new house, and she stayed home with the baby until she started kindergarten. Now she is back in the workforce with a great career and doing very well. Luckily for this person, she and her spouse know people in very high places and when you've gone through something like that, it is all about who you know and surrounding yourself with trustworthy and understanding people that are willing to take a chance on you. And having a little faith doesn't hurt either.

Wishing your mother in law the best!
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June 13th, 2010, 06:39 PM
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I do think that the requirement of full disclosure contributes to high recidivism rates, though. In this economy, it can be almost impossible to find a job even WITHOUT a criminal history. A person who makes a single big mistake while young might subsequently find himself doomed to a lifetime of unemployment (which can be worse than a jail sentence). If that's the case, it's understandable that many convicts turn back to crime fairly quickly after their release. Since in the SQ criminals are required to disclose their history, I think that there need to be both federal and state efforts to encourage businesses to take a chance on some of these people and hire them in spite of their records (i.e. tax breaks or subsidies for businesses that choose to do this). Otherwise, these convicts don't really have much chance of successfully reintegrating themselves into society.
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June 13th, 2010, 07:14 PM
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Unless the record has been expunged then there's really no point in not disclosing. I don't really have an opinion either way. It's going to show up in a background check, so if that's a deal breaker for an employer, then they need to run the checks and be up front that it may disqualify an individual from the job.
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June 13th, 2010, 07:29 PM
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I always thought it was mandatory to disclose felony convictions within the past 6 years? I know where I've lived and applied for work that's always been on the application. I also know that my mom who was a convicted felon(robbery w/o a weapon)always had to disclose her history until it was dropped off her record. I do believe that anyone should disclose felonies and if asked to elaborate prior to a background check(as they are pricey)should tell lest they give up their right to be considered for that job. I mean, it only makes sense IMO.
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June 13th, 2010, 07:50 PM
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A potential employer has a right to know who they are considering for a job. If a person has truly changed, they will work hard to earn trust and respectablity back. Even if it means taking the crudy jobs at first. (And yes, they are still out there, even in this economy)

Using the excuse that it is hard to get a job because of my criminal history to go out and commit another crime is a cop out! The person had not really changed and used the first rough hurdle as an excuse to go back to a life of crime.
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June 13th, 2010, 07:59 PM
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I'm gonna be a little different, and vote that they should only have to disclose their prior conviction if it has to do with the employment they seek. For instance, someone convicted of abusing or neglecting their child should have to disclose that if they're applying for a daycare position, but not as a cashier.

Someone convicted of sexual assault or homicide should generally always have to disclose that if they're going to be working with other people. Someone convicted of possessing child pornography should be able to work in many places where that conviction wouldn't effect their job or coworkers.
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June 13th, 2010, 10:00 PM
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Hmmm... I can see both sides.

My uncle was falsely accused of a terrible crime and pled guilty because he was scared. His life will forever be tarnished by this crime. He will likely never be able to hold a job and live a normal life. Jail is supposed to be rehabilitation, yet the felons are dropped off on a street corner with no money, no job, and no way of going back to the real world. And of course, they end up back in jail. Duh!

But.. I work with adults with developmental disabilities. We have a very firm "No (major) criminal history" policy for the protection of our clients. I completely 100% support this.
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June 13th, 2010, 11:51 PM
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Yes. I'm just gonna have to ditto Melinda & Jillian on this one.
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