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June 16th, 2010, 01:03 PM
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If a woman hauls off and knocks the crap out of a man, does he have the same right to haul off and knock the crap out of her?
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June 16th, 2010, 01:16 PM
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Margaret
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cricket Master
If a woman hauls off and knocks the crap out of a man, does he have the same right to haul off and knock the crap out of her?
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I would say no. Not to say that I have always lived by this code but I think physical violence should only be used for self defense. Therefore, a man could defend himself physically against a women with enough force it would require to protect himself from harm. If leaving the situation is possible it is probably the best immediate option. Generally speaking a women would need to use more force to stop an attacking man then a man would need to use stop an attacking women. For example, my husband could physically restrain me if I went balistic on him but I could not physically restrain him - I would have to do something with a lot of force, use a weapon etc.
That being said, I expect we will teach our sons that it is never never okay to hit a girl/woman and I also imgaine I won't be too hard on them if they get in a fist fight with another boy trying to defend themselves or someone else.
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June 16th, 2010, 01:43 PM
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No, but I don't think it's right for a girl to hit someone back either, unless it's self defense.
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June 16th, 2010, 02:15 PM
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I think its disrespectful for two people that are supposedly in a loving relationship to use profanity toward each other, so I definitely think that hitting is wrong as well. However, if I haul off and slap a man, I don't believe that any of them from my past would ever hit me back because of the way they were raised. (being told from a very young age not to hit a girl)
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June 16th, 2010, 03:31 PM
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Ha, well, I think if a woman puts on her big girl panties and hits a man, she better be prepared for the same thing to come back to her. Not that I think it is right, but I wouldn't be mad at the man either. If I hit my husband, I put myself in the position where I would expect the same thing back, but my husband would never hit me whether I hit him or not. Sorry, I am not a pro violence, but sometimes women (and men) take things to far and hitting a man (or woman) sometimes someone needs an attitude adjustment.
When a man hits a woman, is it acceptable for her to hit him back? why or why not?
I would knock the dog crap out of my husband if he hit me. He would catch a whooping that he wouldn't soon forget. My husband is a Marine, so I would have to clobber him with a bat or something, but I would get the point to him.
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June 16th, 2010, 03:34 PM
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Platinum Supermommy
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Self defense is not kicking the crap out of someone, it is using any means necessary to protect yourself and escape the situation. If a man has to hit a woman to protect himself than that is a different thing than him wailing on the woman long after he got the upper hand.
IMO it is not ok for anyone to hit anyone, male or female
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June 16th, 2010, 05:58 PM
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Mega Super Mommy
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Anyone hits anyone and they put themselves in a position to be hit back, man or woman. Knee jerk reaction, you get hit, you hit back to get away from/stop whatever is hitting you. I wouldnt get angry at a man if a woman was clobbering the crap out of him and he clobbered back to get her to stop. That is self-defense.
In a perfect world, no one would hit anyone and everyone would be nice and we wouldnt need guns or anything like that. Sadly, we dont have a perfect world. :/
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June 16th, 2010, 06:57 PM
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Super Mommy
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I actually saw this addressed on an episode of 16 and pregnant, the girl got so mad at her boyfriend that she hauled off and smacked the crap out of him while she was screaming in his face. The poor guy looked soooo embarrassed and didn't even flinch as if to want to hit her back. I think he was more emotionally hurt by it than anything. They later asked the girl if she regretted hitting him and her first answer was no, but then she changed her answer and said that she did indeed regret her decision and that she shouldn't have done it. (she probably realized how crazy it made her look) I think that whether it's man hitting woman or woman hitting man, nobody has the right to physically touch anyone unless it is in self defense. Period.
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June 16th, 2010, 09:46 PM
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Mega Super Mommy
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No, not at all. Violence, for anyone, isn't how you handle any situation.
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June 16th, 2010, 09:59 PM
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I am sorry but this whole "if you hit a man, you put yourself in the position to get hit back" BS is almost laughable. Almost.
My eight year old daughter has better rationalizing skills than that. Bottom line, the only time it is ever acceptable to use physical force is when used in self defense. If you have the ability and option to walk away, you walk away. If I became suddenly irrational and hit my husband, it does not, by default, give him the right to hit me back. Aside from the fact that I am a FRACTION of his size and hitting him with ALL OF MY STRENGTH would be the equivalent of throwing a handful of cotton balls at him, it would be counterproductive for him to meet my loss of control with a loss of control. Two wrongs don't make a right. I will do my best to instill in my children that violence should not be met with violence unless you are forced to defend or protect themselves.
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June 17th, 2010, 03:59 AM
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Mega Super Mommy
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Quote:
Originally Posted by StaceyC
I am sorry but this whole "if you hit a man, you put yourself in the position to get hit back" BS is almost laughable. Almost.
My eight year old daughter has better rationalizing skills than that. Bottom line, the only time it is ever acceptable to use physical force is when used in self defense. If you have the ability and option to walk away, you walk away. If I became suddenly irrational and hit my husband, it does not, by default, give him the right to hit me back. Aside from the fact that I am a FRACTION of his size and hitting him with ALL OF MY STRENGTH would be the equivalent of throwing a handful of cotton balls at him, it would be counterproductive for him to meet my loss of control with a loss of control. Two wrongs don't make a right. I will do my best to instill in my children that violence should not be met with violence unless you are forced to defend or protect themselves.
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I like this (I really wish JM had a 'like' option!).
Anyways, yes, self-defense, although my husband has said if I were to ever hit him (in all seriousness, not just playing around) then he'd hit me back. Yeah right, he's just trying to sound like a badass.
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June 17th, 2010, 04:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by StaceyC
Bottom line, the only time it is ever acceptable to use physical force is when used in self defense. If you have the ability and option to walk away, you walk away.
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June 17th, 2010, 04:50 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Linzie
Anyone hits anyone and they put themselves in a position to be hit back, man or woman. Knee jerk reaction, you get hit, you hit back to get away from/stop whatever is hitting you. I wouldnt get angry at a man if a woman was clobbering the crap out of him and he clobbered back to get her to stop. That is self-defense.
In a perfect world, no one would hit anyone and everyone would be nice and we wouldnt need guns or anything like that. Sadly, we dont have a perfect world. :/
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I totally agree.
I grew up being taught that a man should never hit a woman.
My opinion is that if I haul off and deck a man, I expect that man to do the same. It's almost insulting for a man to not hit me back- like he thinks I can't handle it.
Last edited by Red Sox Mommy; June 17th, 2010 at 04:52 AM.
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June 17th, 2010, 05:47 AM
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Mega Super Mommy
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Sox Mommy
I totally agree.
I grew up being taught that a man should never hit a woman.
My opinion is that if I haul off and deck a man, I expect that man to do the same. It's almost insulting for a man to not hit me back- like he thinks I can't handle it.
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How is a man being the bigger person and choosing to walk away instead of resorting to physical violence insulting?
I think anyone hitting anyone (outside of self defense and maybe play fighting) would be terribly insulting. It's not him saying, "You just can't handle it", it's him being the bigger person and walking away from a potentially harmful and dangerous situation. Nothing insulting about that. It's admirable.
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June 17th, 2010, 06:14 AM
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Yes. It would be so insulting for my husband to behave in a more civilized and rational manner than I had managed. I would probably call him the p-word. /sarcasm
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June 17th, 2010, 07:07 AM
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No. The only time I find physical violence acceptable is in self defense.
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June 17th, 2010, 07:50 AM
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Platinum Supermommy
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Using physical force to stop the assault is fine (ie. block the arm so he can back out of reach), but to actually hit back? No. Not okay. How the heck is my 6'1 220lb former carpenter (as in, very strong) husband hitting me fair turnaround for my 110lb can-barely-haul-my-kid-around self hitting him? At worst I could bruise him. He could do some serious damage to me with very little effort. Using physical force to restrain me without hurting me would be reasonable, but not actually assaulting me.
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June 17th, 2010, 07:53 AM
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I do agree to a point that if you hit someone you shouldn't expect them to NOT hit you back. They should not, in fact, hit you back, nor should you have hit them in the first place. But if I hit someone in the face - man, woman, dog, child - I'm not about to be shocked if they hit me right back.
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June 17th, 2010, 08:53 AM
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Mega Super Mommy
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Keskes
I do agree to a point that if you hit someone you shouldn't expect them to NOT hit you back. They should not, in fact, hit you back, nor should you have hit them in the first place. But if I hit someone in the face - man, woman, dog, child - I'm not about to be shocked if they hit me right back.
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Thats like what i was saying. i guess i just didnt clarify it enough. Not everyone you meet was raised "you should not hit another person". I i know most people's husbands arent going to hit their wife or loved ones. But you cant say that for everyone. Yes, violence is NOT the answer, but not everyone has that self restraint. So i say again, if you hit someone, you put yourself into a situation where you can be hit back. This scenario isnt true for everyone in every situation, but it still holds merit and does make logical sense.
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June 17th, 2010, 11:18 AM
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Yes. If I hit a man, I will expect to be hit back.
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