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  #1  
October 1st, 2010, 07:09 AM
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I do not think we have done this for awhile.

So what do you think causes Autism. Do you think its environmental, vaccinations or genetics or a mixture of everything?

I will give my opinion later when I have time.
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October 1st, 2010, 07:41 AM
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I think it's a mixture of everything. I don't think it's just one thing. I think you can be born with it, or be born pre-disposed to it and start developing symptoms much later.
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October 1st, 2010, 08:04 AM
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Mixture of everything. I think some people have that 'gene' and (for example) they get x,y, and z vaccines it *could* trigger that gene to become active. I don't think it has anything to do with being a bad parent or bad mother, but I do think certain environmental factors could be triggers as well. I don't think there's just one thing that causes it, I think it's a series or mixture of happenings that causes Autism.
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October 1st, 2010, 10:02 AM
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I am sure my son was born with (genetically predisposed to) the condition he was diagnosed with. Both his dad (DH) and I are "strange socially."

This reminds me that I need to update his journal/video site that we have been keeping from birth. I looked back through these videos and there is no change.. there is no regression.. there is my son being obsessive over learning and doing certain things, with language not especially being one of them.

I do not believe all cases of autism are the same: not caused by the same things, and grouped together as a list of symptoms because nobody knows what the *expletive* causes this "autism" thing. I don't think the language delay and repetitive behaviors my son exhibits are the same condition that someone with a vaccine injury has, for instance.

Personal stake; interested to read everyone's responses.
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October 1st, 2010, 11:35 AM
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I'm almost 100% certain my son was born with it however I know this is not always the case. I have an uncle who became autistic after having surgery at a very young age that included oxygen deprivation, technically he died twice. The autism my son has and the autism my uncle has is vastly different. I believe that some people are predisposed to having vaccines, environment and even foods trigger their autism. I also do believe that the spectrum has become much too large and often things that should be considered a LD or something other than autism are being labeled as such. I know that I will never know the cause of my son's autism and highly doubt that an autism cure exists. I do not believe that autism will ever be given a direct cause that covers the majority.
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October 1st, 2010, 11:40 AM
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I'm almost 100% certain my son was born with it however I know this is not always the case. I have an uncle who became autistic after having surgery at a very young age that included oxygen deprivation, technically he died twice. The autism my son has and the autism my uncle has is vastly different. I believe that some people are predisposed to having vaccines, environment and even foods trigger their autism. I also do believe that the spectrum has become much too large and often things that should be considered a LD or something other than autism are being labeled as such. I know that I will never know the cause of my son's autism and highly doubt that an autism cure exists. I do not believe that autism will ever be given a direct cause that covers the majority.
To the bold its a possibility but I doubt a kid that just has a learning disability is getting dx with autism. The two do not even come close to comparing.
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October 1st, 2010, 11:56 AM
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To the bold its a possibility but I doubt a kid that just has a learning disability is getting dx with autism. The two do not even come close to comparing.
I disagree. Nonverbal learning disabilities are closely connected to asperger's syndrome and you can find out a lot about it on sites that deal with austim spectrum disorders. So yes, it is possible that a child with HFA ends up with a dx of NLD.
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October 1st, 2010, 11:59 AM
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I disagree. Nonverbal learning disabilities are closely connected to asperger's syndrome and you can find out a lot about it on sites that deal with austim spectrum disorders. So yes, it is possible that a child with HFA ends up with a dx of NLD.
Non-Verbal Learning Disability (NLD or NVLD): Your Child: University of Michigan Health System
Well I guess I do not know much about learning disabilities then.
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October 1st, 2010, 12:05 PM
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I've also been wondering if a lot of the previous generation's psychiatry is related to today's autism diagnoses - for instance, persons with anxiety, social phobias, narcissism, temper issues, emotional disturbance, etc. that is NOT caused by abuse.
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October 1st, 2010, 10:12 PM
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I guess ditto to pretty much what everyone has said?

I don't think that there are any two people with Autism that have the same symptoms, that have the same cause. I think that Autism is like snow. It's all white and fluffy, but if you start looking at the individual pieces, it's just a bunch of individual unique pieces grouped into one pile.

Nearly half of the clients I work with have been diagnosed with Autism or Asperger's, or are on the spectrum and they are all vastly different. One is nonverbal and will grab people's arms and try to bite them, severely, while the other is very verbal, talking constantly, and is employed at a fast food restaurant. I think that largely Autism has to do with our diet, and pollution. Also, I think that, as stated, the specturm has been broadened greatly. I remember I had a classmate in the second grade that would rock back and forth in his chair, retrace everything he wrote down three times, would hum to himself, and had a few little ticks, but was others deemed as "normal". Now, looking back, he probably had Autism but was not diagnosed with it. That was nearly 20 years ago, so I'm sure that if he were a child now, he would have been diagnosed.

I do want to point out that I do not think that vaccines cause Autism. I think it's purely coincidental that children start exhibiting symptoms of Autism at around certain vaccine times. Those that do have a reaction and start to develop "Autism", do not have Autism at all, and instead suffered a vaccine injury. Also, I think that those that are "cured from Autism" by a diet change again, did not have Autism at all, they just had some mystery illness that was cured by a diet change.
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October 2nd, 2010, 01:21 AM
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I think my son's autism was caused by environmental toxins triggering it. I think he may have been born with a diminished ability to process those toxins out of his body. I see it more as an autoimmune disorder than a numerological disorder and I think the numbers are growing and under reported by most major organizations. That is about as short of an opinion as I can give on the subject.
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October 2nd, 2010, 08:11 AM
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I believe that it's a combination of genetics and environment. (when reading through papers and such on it these seem to be the ones that make the most sense to me)
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October 2nd, 2010, 09:18 AM
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I personally believe that since Autism has such a huge range and variety of symptoms, that it encompasses more than just one cause, almost like Cerebral Palsy. I don't think that there is *one* cause of Autism, and think that there are multiple factors that can cause the symptoms of Autism and all of the children who exhibit these symptoms are lumped into one big group, but the causes of these symptoms could be entirely different causes.

I don't think we will ever have one smoking gun that scientists will say "A-ha!! This causes Autism and now we know how to fix it!" I think that they will find some things that can cause it, but I don't know if they will every discover EVERYTHING that causes it.

Just my opinion.


I was just about to say basically the same thing, so instead I will just say I totally agree. =)
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October 2nd, 2010, 01:26 PM
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With what we do know about autism as of now, put me in the multiple causes camp. There's just so much we don't know: why some show signs from infancy while others develop auitsm seemingly overnight; why some respond to treatment and others do not; why some are able to make enough progress to no longer qualify for a diagnosis while others only become more impaired. Heck, even just diagnosing autism is an opinion-based mystery: several clinicians could evaluate the same child and be completely split on whether or not the child is autistic. Perhaps in the future a biological or chemical marker will be found, and then maybe will be more clear distinctions between "autism" and "autism-like," but as of now, there is no such distinction.
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October 2nd, 2010, 04:35 PM
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I honestly think it is a combination of everything. And I do think there are some kids who are diagnosed way too early. I don't think every child who is diagnosed at under 2 is misdiagnosed, but there are many who turn out to actually "grow out" of the disorder, which if it's truly autism, I don't know that it's possible to do so. When I was on Facebook, this often popped up as an ad on my sidebar, and I think it describes that perfectly: Autistic-Like: Graham's Story - A Film by Erik Linthorst

As for our situation, I think it was definitely a combination of genetics (I have many Asperger-like traits - I won't diagnose myself, but I won't rule out Asperger's totally, either) and toxins in vaccines. I do know that my child had some big differences in development compared to her sibling. I think they both have some form of autism (#2 will probably eventually be diagnosed with Asperger's, but is much more outgoing and has very few symptoms compared with his sibling), but I do believe that toxins in vaccines caused DD to regress some major progress (mostly language development, social cues, etc) that she had made in her first 12-15 months of life. I do believe if we had NOT vaccinated her, she would have probably still had either HFA or Asperger's, but not nearly the extent that she has now.

I don't believe there is enough research out there to prove either way what is the cause, because it is a combination of genetics, environmental factors, vaccines, etc. How can you prove one cause for one set of kids when another cause is the reason for another set of kids? And then of course there's the overlap where more than one thing caused it?

Honestly, I don't care what caused my child's autism. I'm more interested in treating it, and helping her adapt to everyday life than I am by "figuring out" what the reason behind autism is.
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