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I jsut read this:
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COPIAPO, Chile (Reuters) – Most of Chile's 33 rescued miners are honoring a pact of silence about the worst of their ordeal, but one indicated on Sunday he would talk if paid and another set the record straight about what didn't happen.
Lucrative movie and book deals have been flowing in since the miners' miraculous rescue on Wednesday after 69 days trapped half a mile underground after a cave-in, and several are now looking to safeguard their financial future.
So far, most of the men have not yet spoken of the very worst moments of their ordeal in a hot, humid tunnel 2,050 feet underground, particularly during the agonizing 17 days before they were found alive. The rescue was watched by hundreds of millions of people, a survival story that captured the world's imagination.
"We can't talk about those things, because there is a pact. We can't talk about the period from the cave-in until we escaped," said Mario Gomez, who at 63 is the oldest of the miners, as he helped his family dismantle the tent at "Camp Hope," the settlement they erected after the accident.
Fellow miner Omar Reygada said the pact aimed to ensure the real story was told about the days after the August 5 collapse. Some of the miners have said they were planning a book, and several said they had not yet decided as a group on the sale of rights to their story.
"There's an agreement for us to speak as a group, to avoid distortions that can arise when we speak individually," he said.
Still, miner Jorge Galleguillos said the pact was non-binding, and told Reuters he would tell his story for a fee. He refused to speak in detail otherwise.
"I have to think about myself," he said after attending a religious ceremony at the mine and touring the tent settlement where his family waited for his rescue.
Mario Sepulveda, a joker and the most charismatic of the miners, who thrilled the world when he emerged from the escape capsule that hoisted the men to safety with a bag of souvenir rocks, has already tested the pact's limits.
In an interview with Britain's Mail on Sunday, Sepulveda said he had at times lost hope of being rescued and had played dead in a macabre joke on the other miners.
He rejected the suggestion that the men had sex while trapped underground or that he had considered cannibalism.
"The reason I am speaking is that people have been gossiping and saying things and I think it is important for one of us, me in this case, to tell it as it was down there, but also to answer some of the things that people are getting wrong," he told the paper.
"Saying we had sex down there with each other is just plain wrong," he added. "There are some things I will never talk about. But they are things that would embarrass some of the kids (younger miners). Nothing sexual, more that they acted like kids."
Sepulveda says he will use any money earned from his story to create a fund for his children's university education.
The 40-year-old, who spent his birthday trapped in the mine, did not join 13 of his colleagues at the ceremony on Sunday.
Miner Victor Segovia kept a diary the men plan to turn into a book. Parts of his notebook have been sealed with tape to ensure secrecy.
Some just don't want to talk about their darkest days underground, amid psychologists' warnings that the most lasting damage could be emotional and go on for months if not years.
"I don't want to talk about that yet," said Claudio Yanez, 34, who had been considering quitting the mine before the accident.
If you or your DH were apart of an accident and rescue like these miners, would you honor the pact or tell your story for the money on your own?
If I'm being honest, I'd have to think of myself and my family. If we desperately needed the money (as far as I know miners don't make that much), I would talk. My family comes first before a pact. Sometimes you just do what you need to do, and though it may be embarrassing to talk about some of the things that happened down there, I'd talk about it if it meant my family would be better taken care of.
I would honor the pact. I do think 33 is large number and it would be hard for me to believe that I could trust 32 others but they were trapped for such a long time - I imagine they talked about it and the details quite a bit. I hope they do like they suggested and pool any that is made and split it among them.
I wouldn't be able to betray my brothers for money though.
I wouldn't have made the pact in the first place. I might agree to not tell things that might be potentially embarrassing though.
I think being stuck underground with 32 other men for 60-something days, who REALLY wanted me to keep a pact, I probably would have been to afraid NOT to!
Depends on how much money. If its substantial I'd take the money and then get on a plane and live in some far distant exotic destination where no one would find me. Financial stability is something I'd really need.
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I am guessing that, for starters, there were significant periods of time where these men did not believe, honestly, that they would be rescued...especially as days turned into weeks and weeks turned into months. Furthermore, even if any of them were able to fully imagine or realize how significantly their ordeal and rescue impacted the entire world, the financial gain was, most likely, the least of their concerns at that point.
I can imagine, even if Joe Miner did consider how lucrative telling the story could be, if they were rescued, he probably would have felt compelled to just go along with the proposed pact because dissenting over a hypothetical, buried that far underground and for that long, would probably not be a high ranking priority and could have potential consequences.
I'd want DH to honor the pact. If they are having a pact it is probably because some things happened down there that no one, or most, don't want to talk about.
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Maybe I am being dumb but I have no idea what could have happened down there that could have been so embarassing....besides sex.
Was the pact just about protecting secrets or was it also about making sure they all were able to cash on their new found fame? so that one or a few of the miners didn't rush out with the story and make all the money.
Maybe I am being dumb but I have no idea what could have happened down there that could have been so embarassing....besides sex.
That is exactly what I am thinking, even though they deny sex occurred. Which is why, I am assuming that a lot of these men may have agreed to the pact under significant pressure and/or threats.
How horny could you possibly get while stuck with a bunch of guys that probably smelled because no one could shower and everyone has to ****/piss around each other...I just don't get how you'd even WANT to have sex with all that stuff going on around you.
Was the pact just about protecting secrets or was it also about making sure they all were able to cash on their new found fame? so that one or a few of the miners didn't rush out with the story and make all the money.
Maybe...that would make sense.
I think the story about the butterfly is fake. Maybe that is part of the pact. Otherwise, I really don't understand what would be so shameful..again, besides, sex but seriously, it is was only 69 days.
Can men really not abstain for a few months? Is it really THAT difficult (or are you soooo bored) that you'd go wack off your coworker? I feel bad for laughing.
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