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Recently a judge in San Francisco ordered to remove the initiative that would make circumcision of infants a crime punishable by fines of up to $1000 and possible jail time. (The link is currently on CNN's home page...I can't post it because I don't have enough posts yet. Can someone else post it?)
Should a city be able to fine its residents if they decide to circumcise their sons? What if instead of circumcision, it was genital mutilation of teenage girls rather than infant boys, as is commonly practiced in parts of Northern Africa and parts of Southeast Asia?
Does a government have the right to protect children? Or are parents free to do what they like to their children...with or without their consent?
Jail time is ridiculous. Although I think circumcision should be illegal, charging parents with a crime and sending them to jail is abit much.
Everyone will say that circ'ing girls is different from doing the same thing to boys. In my opinion, there isn't much of a difference. It's still removing a part of their body, and I think if it's going to be done, it should be the childs choice when they reach a certain age.
So I vote no.
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I wouldn't choose circumcision for my sons if I had them but I also thing this would/could infringe on peoples rights to practice their religion as well as parenting choices in general.
I don't agree with the religious part not being a reason to allow parents to circ but overall, I don't think its a parent's right to physically and cosmetically alter their child's body.
I don't agree that the parents should make a decision about altering their childs body. I would say it should be law that its up to the individuals themselves to decide if they want to be circ'ed or not. I know men who aren't circ'ed who wished they were, and men who were that wish they weren't.
My sons penis isn't mine, it's his. So ultimately it's up to him to choose what he wants. What annoys me is, how people say if you wait until you're older it will really hurt. Uh...it hurts babies. Majority of parents of circ'ed babies that I've come across have told me that this isn't true. That it doesn't hurt them. Lies.
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What if it was for medical reasons? Like the boy had a very bad infection? Would the parents still be fined or go to jail?
What if my daughter had a very bad vaginal infection? Should I start hacking off parts?
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It's not up to the government to decide for parents what medical procedures to have for their children. And nearly every decision I make for my young children alters their body forever. I decide what diet to feed them, and that foundation will last their whole lives.
This is a slippery slope, and if one medical procedure gets banned then where will it stop? If Roe v Wade determined that a woman has a right to privacy regarding abortion, do parents not have the right to privacy in other medical decisions? This is something that should stay between the doctor and the parents/patients. By proxy, parents make the decisions for their children. That's what parents do, make life determining decisions based on what they believe is best/right.
If you don't like circumcision, then don't circumcise your sons. Simple as that.
I don't think it should be illegal. I have a don't ask don't tell approach. I don't ask moms if they do it, and I stay out of their business no matter what their choice. I do not concider it abuse.
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Originally Posted by *Dayna*
What if my daughter had a very bad vaginal infection? Should I start hacking off parts?
There are medical conditions where it is necessary. My friends son was born with a deformed foreskin. It was painful for her son, he also got many infections because of it. The only way to fix it was to remove the foreskin. He was over a year before she relented and got it removed. He's a much healthier and happier little boy now. Her other 2 sons are intact.
Its not common, but there are valid medical reasons for some boys needing it done.
I also read something about circumcision lowering the chances of UTIs and the risk of penile cancer as well as the transmission of STDs. However circumcision will increase the chance of developing meatitius
If your son or daughter has appendicitis, you would have his or her appendix removed. If they had tonsilitis, you would have their toncils removed. Parents have their teenager's wisdom teeth extracted when their mouth becomes too crowded or their teeth are impacted. (the wisdom teeth can grow in completely on their side and become extremely painful) My cousin's son was born blind, and she had surgery done on his eyes so that he would be able to see.
I don't know that there are any conditions that would require any part of the vaginal area to be removed.
Personally I think all penises are ugly so the cosmetic part isn't working then again.. that could just be me
You are so right. Intact or circ'ed, they're ugly as sin. I laugh when I hear women say intact mens penis's are 'gross'. A circ'ed one is just as gross.
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The only thing is I hesitate to say cosmetic surgery should never be done for a child. There are somethings that fall under cosmetic that really can improve a child's life. Others that are cultural. So over all I try not to judge parents for their choices in regards to their child.
Sometimes I don't think there really is a right or wrong answer.
Again, is there going to be a frank&beans inspector, or are pediatricians going to have to 'report' the parents if they go out of city to have it done? It's a dumb law all around.
Anyone else find it ironic that CA has the highest plastic surgery rate per capita, but they were going to ban something cosmetic??
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Should a city be able to fine its residents if they decide to circumcise their sons? No
What if instead of circumcision, it was genital mutilation of teenage girls rather than infant boys, as is commonly practiced in parts of Northern Africa and parts of Southeast Asia? I don't care what it is, the government shouldn't be telling me what medical procedures I can and cannot to consent to for my child. Regardless if I agree with the procedure or not.
Does a government have the right to protect children?Yes, but up to a point, i.e. abuse. And not abuse that is subjective. I'm talking clear cut no doubt about it abuse.
Or are parents free to do what they like to their children...with or without their consent? I feel we as parents have the right to make medical choices for our children. However, we should take their opinions on the matter into consideration when making a decision like that if the child is capable of making such a decision.
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You wouldn't remove the appendix and the tonsils in babies "just in case". You'd wait until there was a medical reason.
As for all the benefits of circumcision? The same benefits are said about FGM/
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You wouldn't remove the appendix and the tonsils in babies "just in case". You'd wait until there was a medical reason.
As for all the benefits of circumcision? The same benefits are said about FGM/
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