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September 3rd, 2011, 05:22 PM
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Your thoughts?

Please watch the video in addition to reading the article.

Deaf Man At War With Army Policy - Careers Articles
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September 3rd, 2011, 06:26 PM
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I didn't get to see the videos, but in a non combat position I don't see why he coudln't be in the military. Intelligence could use a natural lip reader, rather than someone who had to learn.
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September 3rd, 2011, 08:04 PM
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I say good for him and his campaign and I really hope it goes successfully.

There is absolutely NO reason why someone who is deaf cannot be in our military. It's actually pretty darn stupid to say they can't, if you ask me. With 80% of the military jobs being non-combat they can't pretend there isn't something those who are deaf could do. Sure there are some things they wouldn't be able to do, so what.
Sometimes I REALLY hate the "it's policy" answer.

The video doesn't expand a ton more on the article, if you can't see it. It goes slightly more into his own personal experience but the article sums it up pretty well.
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September 3rd, 2011, 08:35 PM
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Regardless of job what a soldier works they are all expected to be combat ready at all times. They must complete basic combat training prior to any job training. The military does not guarantee any soldier will never be called into a combat position and even those who seemingly have no dangers to them also have a combat counterpart. Accountants, food service, admin etc are all present in what is considered in theater positions. To enlist a person who is coming in on a non deployable profile seems unlikely.

Totally sucks and I really feel for him not being able to accomplish his goal but I can't see an exception being made for him
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September 3rd, 2011, 11:01 PM
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Regardless of job what a soldier works they are all expected to be combat ready at all times. They must complete basic combat training prior to any job training. The military does not guarantee any soldier will never be called into a combat position and even those who seemingly have no dangers to them also have a combat counterpart. Accountants, food service, admin etc are all present in what is considered in theater positions. To enlist a person who is coming in on a non deployable profile seems unlikely.

Totally sucks and I really feel for him not being able to accomplish his goal but I can't see an exception being made for him

This. I would not want him supporting my husband. He is expected to be combat ready. Hearing included.
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September 4th, 2011, 01:30 AM
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How do you feel about those who are currently disabled, unable to be in a combat position, who are still active duty? They aren't combat ready(and can't be), yet they still get to be in the military. It doesn't make a lick of sense why that is ok, yet this isn't. It would make more sense if ANYONE who is unable to be in a combat position(at the drop of a hat, or otherwise) wasn't allowed to be part of the military. I still wouldn't agree with it, though I'd understand it. But that's not the case right now.
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September 4th, 2011, 05:55 AM
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Please show me an example of a permanintly disable soldier who is non-deployable and still active duty.

People that are not combat ready are on a profile. They are working toward being combat ready either medical treatment, weight loss etc. Being non-deployable is look at as a big deal regardless of your job duties and will make it so you cannot reenlist. No one is allowed to join without passing a physical that shows them to be combat ready. Those who are somehow able to slip through the crack are generally weeded out pretty quick in basic training.

As far as your last line, that is in fact the case right now. All soldiers from the ground up have to be combat ready unless on a medical profile. If a soldier is permanently disabled they are out processed via a med board.

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How do you feel about those who are currently disabled, unable to be in a combat position, who are still active duty? They aren't combat ready(and can't be), yet they still get to be in the military. It doesn't make a lick of sense why that is ok, yet this isn't. It would make more sense if ANYONE who is unable to be in a combat position(at the drop of a hat, or otherwise) wasn't allowed to be part of the military. I still wouldn't agree with it, though I'd understand it. But that's not the case right now.
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September 4th, 2011, 09:18 AM
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Jaime beat me too it, so I ditto her. They have to be able to be combat ready at some point. They have already served and they are giving them a chance to be combat ready again, if not, out they go. I am ok with that.
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September 4th, 2011, 02:39 PM
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Yep, those that are non deployable due to either physical OR mental issues are typically placed in the Warrior Transition Units and either medically discharged, attempted to rehabilitate or chaptered out due to inability to rehabilitate (for example in the case of ongoing drug use despite treatment).
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September 5th, 2011, 09:32 AM
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I'm deaf (without hearing aids) and I agree that he can never be combat ready, therefore can't be in the military. I'm in the deaf minority, in that hearing aids work for me(for my right ear, atleast). For most deaf people, hearing aids do nothing for them.
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