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  #1  
September 5th, 2011, 06:30 AM
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Should pets be allowed in stores? Obviously, we are not talking about service animals, just everyday pets. Should it matter on the type of pet or type of store? Specifically, grocery stores, pharmacies, and restaurants?
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September 5th, 2011, 06:35 AM
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Service pets are legally acceptable, but as for other pets... It's disgusting and unsanitary. Not to mention, just because you like your pet, doesn't mean others do as well. Keep your pets at home.

I enjoy taking Jace to pet stores like Petsmart, but people bringing their dogs annoy me (granted, I know it's allowed and granted I know we don't have to go there--- but there should be common respect from dog owners too). They automatically assume you aren't scared of dogs (Jace is) and that you like their dog. I can't believe how many people think it's okay to let their dog come up and start sniffing and licking you. They quickly get the point when Jace is hiding behind me and I tell them we "DON'T LIKE YOUR DOG."
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September 5th, 2011, 06:53 AM
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I've changed my tune on this since the last debate. I used to run into stores with my 6lb dog tucked into my purse or in the basket of the stroller. Not a grocery trip but a quick run into the corner store for the paper or something.

Once people argued allergens and fears, I stopped bringing him into non pet friendly stores. I usually don't bring him into Petco type places because he acts like an A-hole round other dogs most of the time and no one has any fun.
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September 5th, 2011, 07:33 AM
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People have brought their dogs into my work place quite a few times. It's very annoying. But since commission is the majority of my pay I pretend to like everyone.
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September 5th, 2011, 07:44 AM
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Pets aren't people, keep em at home. I don't even like going to pet stores when people bring their dogs along. Yes, we have two dogs, but I basically tolerate them, and if we had not taken them in they both would have been put down, and their old, so they can live out their last few years here. Doesn't mean I want everyone else's pets around.
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September 5th, 2011, 07:54 AM
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Its one thing to bring them to a pet friendly place, like Petco (where they encourage you to bring them) and another completely to take them to other stores. I say no its not appropriate.

DH has had to kick several people out of the mall where he works for bringing their pets inside.
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September 5th, 2011, 07:54 AM
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Thank God I'm not alone in my thoughts! I was at a pharmacy yesterday and this lady brought in her dog. I asked her if dogs were allowed, and she said no and shushed me. She put it in a cart and left it unattended. I complained, and one of the cashiers said she was a regular in kind of an "uh-oh" voice. They told me where the manager was, but he didn't care. He wasn't even aware of the policy on their door that stated animals (except service animals) weren't allowed. In fact, he said there was no policy at all! When I pointed it out to him, he still didn't do anything. The lady saw me talking to him, and started yelling at me and calling me a B*. The manager still didn't do anything, and I wound up leaving to avoid any further confrontation.
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September 5th, 2011, 07:56 AM
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I get really annoyed when people take their pets into stores and have them on leashes. (As opposed to carrying them). My aunt now refuses to shop at a certain store because the saleslady dared to tell her to make sure her dog didn't bother anyone. A dog does not need to go into a clothing store no matter how well behaved it is.

Service dogs are the exception of course.
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September 5th, 2011, 09:19 AM
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I agree that non-service dogs need to just be left at home, if it's not a pet-friendly store. Having had a very sick dog once, before he was certified as a service dog, I do have sympathy for people who have no choice. After my dog was fixed, he got horribly sick. The vet said I absolutely could not leave him alone, and yet he said I needed to go buy white rice, chicken broth and chicken breasts to feed him. I went to wal-mart with him, and thank God the ladies up front were so nice. They kept him in a basket there while I got the stuff.

My dog goes everywhere with me, except for work, school and church (just because those situations make it difficult to have him with me, plus I never take my hearing aids out in those places, so don't really need him). But the ONE place I NEVER take him is the pet store. Something about it smelling like every other dog in town, makes my dog poop right on the floor. SO ANNOYING! And embarrassing!
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September 5th, 2011, 11:53 AM
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I wish people didn't do it. I'm afraid of dogs, and I find (from experience) the people who think their pets are people, don't control them enough either. I will happily give a cute dog an ear rub, my fear doesn't prevent that since I like dogs. But when dogs are roaming, and jumping and people aren't holding them back... I want to scream and run.
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September 5th, 2011, 12:20 PM
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No! If they are not service animals, they should not be in stores. Gross, scary (some dogs are improperly trained, too), smelly...Just nasty.

We have a husky and EVERYONE loves her because she's quite pretty; She doesn't like them back....she'll wag her tail at you and everything...then just when you think you're safe.... SNAP!

So, I wouldn't bring MY OWN dog because of the danger factor. I'm sure everyone loves their pets, but no frigging way.
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September 5th, 2011, 03:21 PM
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Fun fact: In the state of Maine, only service animals are allowed in places of business.
HOWEVER.
The animal does not need anything identifying it as a service animal, AND
The people who own/work at the business cannot ask if the animal is a service animal, and cannot ask the person with the animal to leave just because they have the animal with them.
I could ride a horse into Wal-Mart if I wanted to.

I don't think animals other than the service kind should be allowed in stores. Service animals are usually trained in a way that would keep them from being a danger to others. House pets, not always.
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September 5th, 2011, 04:02 PM
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I agree that non-service dogs need to just be left at home, if it's not a pet-friendly store. Having had a very sick dog once, before he was certified as a service dog, I do have sympathy for people who have no choice. After my dog was fixed, he got horribly sick. The vet said I absolutely could not leave him alone, and yet he said I needed to go buy white rice, chicken broth and chicken breasts to feed him. I went to wal-mart with him, and thank God the ladies up front were so nice. They kept him in a basket there while I got the stuff.

My dog goes everywhere with me, except for work, school and church (just because those situations make it difficult to have him with me, plus I never take my hearing aids out in those places, so don't really need him). But the ONE place I NEVER take him is the pet store. Something about it smelling like every other dog in town, makes my dog poop right on the floor. SO ANNOYING! And embarrassing!

FYI, the dog doesn't have to be certified. A service dog in training has to be afforded all the access that a fully trained service dog would get. Otherwise, how could they ever get certified?


As a pet owner who wishes all my animals could go with me all the time, you just plain have to respect the establishment you're patronizing. If it's not pet friendly, do not take your pets. It's really that simple.
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September 5th, 2011, 04:34 PM
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No they shouldn't be allowed in stores. Petco type are fine since it's encouraged to bring your pets in. We have 2 big does, APBT and Rottweiler, so we dont' bring them in the pet stores just because lots of people are afraid of them eventhough *we* know they are friendly. However, we brought them in when they were still pups.

I understand kids being afraid of animals. ds2 is afraid of cats. But I do think it's kind of silly to bring a child who is afraid of dogs into a pet store where there is likely to be dogs in. Yes they shouldn't just go up to the child (the child/parent should ask if they can pet the dog, not the other way around) but it's beneficial to bring in your pet. 1. sometimes you need to bring them in so the on-staff vet can look at them for a certain product 2. sometimes you need to bring them in so you can find something that fits (we've had to do that with our dogs because we kept buying and brining the collars back because they didn't fit properly, our dogs need a certain type of collar, not just any collar) 3. it helps dogs socialize to people which is an important part of dog ownership

There are only certain dog friendly places where we live. The pet store and the dog park. If you don't like dogs or are afraid of them, it's best to stay away from them. I know that kids love to look at the caged animals (fish, snakes, mice, etc) but it's silly to complain about people brining in their dogs to a pet store.
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September 5th, 2011, 05:56 PM
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I agree that dogs (except service animals) shouldn't be at most stores, but I do think it's ok to bring them to places like PetSmart and Petco which allow you to bring your dog. I expect to see dogs when I go to those places.
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I do agree to a point with Erin---EXCEPT if you have a sick or aggressive dog, then I don't care if it's pet friendly or not. I would hate to see someone get hurt because an owner felt he "had a right" to bring his dog or cat or whatever just because it was a pet friendly pet shop where people CAN bring those things (i.e. just because you can, doesn't mean you should)
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September 6th, 2011, 05:26 PM
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FYI, the dog doesn't have to be certified. A service dog in training has to be afforded all the access that a fully trained service dog would get. Otherwise, how could they ever get certified?


As a pet owner who wishes all my animals could go with me all the time, you just plain have to respect the establishment you're patronizing. If it's not pet friendly, do not take your pets. It's really that simple.
This was before he was even in training. He was only 6mos old. I had my dog as a pet, and training him as a service dog was an after-thought when I knew I would be living by myself soon. I got very lucky, because it turns out the only 2 small dogs that are trained as service dogs are jack russels and I believe malteses. I paid a butt load of money for someone to come to my home for training, vs. sending him off. Was much faster that way.
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September 6th, 2011, 10:57 PM
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If the business wants to allow or disallow pets, then they have the right to do so. If you don't like it, shop at a place that doesn't allow pets or do your shopping online.
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September 7th, 2011, 06:46 AM
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Fun fact: In the state of Maine, only service animals are allowed in places of business.
HOWEVER.
The animal does not need anything identifying it as a service animal, AND
The people who own/work at the business cannot ask if the animal is a service animal, and cannot ask the person with the animal to leave just because they have the animal with them.
I could ride a horse into Wal-Mart if I wanted to.

I don't think animals other than the service kind should be allowed in stores. Service animals are usually trained in a way that would keep them from being a danger to others. House pets, not always.
I wondered why there was a lady with a German Sheppard in Walmart the other day with nothing to indicate it was a service animal. I could be wrong but I have a feeling that people tend to abuse this law. Maybe they have a disability that isn't visible to me, but I've seen a bunch of dogs in stores that don't appear to be service dogs but sure little pets people just want to bring along.
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September 7th, 2011, 08:28 AM
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I wondered why there was a lady with a German Sheppard in Walmart the other day with nothing to indicate it was a service animal. I could be wrong but I have a feeling that people tend to abuse this law. Maybe they have a disability that isn't visible to me, but I've seen a bunch of dogs in stores that don't appear to be service dogs but sure little pets people just want to bring along.

Well, you're right. Some disabilities are not going to be visible. My female Dane alerts me before my blood sugar will take a hard drop. Some people who are agorophobic use service dogs.
The law has a lot of potential for abuse, but it's been my experience that not a lot of people are aware of how it works. As long as I've owned dogs, I only learned this a few years ago. When Roo started "telling" me my blood sugar was going to drop, I took her to a trainer so she could be legit. He told me there was no need to certify. There are many rules for service dogs to follow that regular pets cannot live up to.
I don't take Rucca with me most places, Danes aren't exactly the most compact and portable dogs. But it's a huge comfort to me to know that if I'm going to be traveling long distances, she can go with me to help my anxiety.
And that's another aspect to it. I didn't know the broad range of legitimate uses for service dogs until Rucca. It was purely by chance that I adopted a dog who alerted me like that. It wasn't until looking into training for her that I saw service dogs are used for seizure patients, autism, and all kinds of things.
I personally think service dogs need to wear their identification though. There are patches that tell people "I'm working, don't pet me" or "pet me, I'm in training." It all depends on the dog's job, and people need to know if they should leave the dog alone. People also shouldn't have to wonder if it's a service dog. They should know.
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