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  #61  
September 14th, 2011, 02:28 PM
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WOW not considered earned income...interesting. For us it is. For example, when I filed my request for financial aid with the school, I had to put down any child support I received and they considered it earned income. Same when I had to apply for welfare. Funny how states look at things differently. This was all years ago by the way. Could have changed since then with welfare, I know it hasn't for financial aid.
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September 14th, 2011, 03:01 PM
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I know in WI they don't even ask on taxes if you receive any child support or anything. It is also taken out pre-tax from your check (if there is direct deposit). If anything they should take taxes out on the payer's end. If I am getting child support then have to pay more in taxes I'd be pretty peeved. It's not considered earned income, that may make the difference.
She doesn't have to pay taxes on it according to the research I've done.

For a friend of mine, it's a tax problem on his end, since they look at his over all earnings, what he paid in and say it doesn't add up and he doesn't get a refund (or less of a refund) even though the difference in the two is his child support.

Her support amt is calculated before his taxes are off. So that way she gets the optimal amount. But I do think that it should be taxed or come off after taxes are taken off DF.

DF makes 2210 a week when he's working. He clears $1,787.72. Her support comes off that 2210.
So she (should) get 375.70 a week even though 17% of his take home is only 303.91. So he pays in less in taxes and therefore would get a smaller refund. Since it doesn't count as income for her, she gets a tax break because she makes less. Seems like if she's not going to be taxed on it, she shouldn't get her % until after he was taxed.

eta: I'm not saying she doesn't deserve the money, but I don't think that the support payer should be dinged twice (for support, and then tax issues) especially since that person isn't always the person who filed for divorce.
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WOW not considered earned income...interesting. For us it is. For example, when I filed my request for financial aid with the school, I had to put down any child support I received and they considered it earned income. Same when I had to apply for welfare. Funny how states look at things differently. This was all years ago by the way. Could have changed since then with welfare, I know it hasn't for financial aid.
It's considered income here even now. A friend of mine went to apply and didn't get it because she made too much in CS.
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It's considered income here even now. A friend of mine went to apply and didn't get it because she made too much in CS.
Maybe the research and lawyer are incorrect, I won't rule that out since I find so much conflicting information.

Someone's gotta pay taxes on it, that's for sure.

she doesn't get DSS as a tax benefit on a yearly basis either. They're alternating years.
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Yes Lynn, it is called unearned income here. Just not earned. Same as an alimony.

Ashley, that's what I meant about the taxes. The payee doesn't get taxed, I wasn't sure about the payer, but by the way taxes are done here, they don't ask about child support at all, so I assumed not.
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WOW Some states really rip off the people who live there. Alimony is earned income for NY. Even things such as disability is considered earned income. I think the only thing not considered earned income here is welfare cash assistance. Anything else is fair game.
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reasons like yours make me glad that Wi has a percentage system not a set amount. DF has a capped limit to his support (which we disagree with, since it isn't even close to 17% of his wages, so he'll make that up to his ex by sending extra should she need it) but they'll only take 17% up to the limit they placed on him. If he makes $100 a week, she's getting $17.
It is a percentage of his total income but it was calculated off his tax return when he got divorced. So it then because a set amount monthly based on that calculation. If his income permanently changes, he would have to go to court to get it adjusted. He can't vary his payments month to month.

And in Illinois they don't take the custodial parents income into affect either. It's just the non-custodial parent.

For the IRS - Child support isn't income to the receiving parent or is it a deduction for the paying parent. It isn't income to the custodial parent - it's support for the child.

Alimony on the other hand is considered Income to receiver & a deduction to the payor. (BTDT so know)
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