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  #21  
September 21st, 2011, 03:17 PM
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I would actually take my kids out of a school over something like this.
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September 21st, 2011, 03:54 PM
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It's stuff like this that makes me want to homeschool baby girl, ugh...

Allthough 7 chances to go in a 6 hour period is more than plenty, even for someone like me who pees constantly, I still do NOT agree with tying in the restroom with the school incentive dollars. It's different with potty training kids. I actually have a 2yr old in sunday school that will only pee if you will give him a sticker, lol!
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September 21st, 2011, 05:08 PM
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Hmm... I can see why this plan has been implemented, doesn't mean I agree with it.

I have quit jobs over not being able to go pee as needed. I've had doctors write notes and fill out forms. And I've still had places try and punish and threaten me.

I've gone pee roughtly once every hour to 90 minutes every single day since I got out of diapers. I get up to pee roughtly 4 times per night, and nothing they've tried works. My bladder is fine, my kegels are fantastic. But the only way I can not go as often, is to dehydrate myself... and no school is going to tell me, or my child to dehydrate themself.

And that doesn't count having IBS (the go too much kind) where there are times where I've run from class or my desk 3-4 times in an hour to use the bathroom.

yeah I'd probably pull my children out of school if they tried to tell them that they can't go to the bathroom. With it being an incentive program, kids with medical problems don't get exceptions, they don't get to partake.
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The article doesn't talk about what happens if a child has a medical condition. That seems just wrong overall to me. I think that yes, there may be 7 opportunities to go, but that doesn't mean that the urge to go doesn't hit during one of the "off" times.
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September 21st, 2011, 09:50 PM
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My son would have an accident before using any of his incentive dollars because getting them he's being good, getting them taken away would be him being bad. So this would lead to SEVERAL in-school accidents. I think as long as parents are aware AND can opt. out then it's okay.
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Well, in the K-2 grades here, these kids can have bowel malfunctions. Sometimes kids will go and then have to go again 10 mins later because they didn't fully empty their bladder or bowel. I don't think that most kids after 2nd grade have this problem, but alas, I go every hour. EVERY day. So, I'd have paid out the azz if this rule applied when I was a kid.
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Well, in the K-2 grades here, these kids can have bowel malfunctions. Sometimes kids will go and then have to go again 10 mins later because they didn't fully empty their bladder or bowel. I don't think that most kids after 2nd grade have this problem, but alas, I go every hour. EVERY day. So, I'd have paid out the azz if this rule applied when I was a kid.
If you go every hour all day long, when do you sleep? And hopefully you have been to the dr. for a dx because that is NOT normal. I'm still of the mindset that 7 potty breaks a day is PLENTY~its once an hour or more so I don't see how you would have had to pay unless you were routinely leaving class.

I'm pretty sure that the teachers in the younger grades make exceptions for the "sometimes" children and those with special circumstances in all grades. If they are not, that would be a whole other story.
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If you go every hour all day long, when do you sleep? And hopefully you have been to the dr. for a dx because that is NOT normal. I'm still of the mindset that 7 potty breaks a day is PLENTY~its once an hour or more so I don't see how you would have had to pay unless you were routinely leaving class.

I'm pretty sure that the teachers in the younger grades make exceptions for the "sometimes" children and those with special circumstances in all grades. If they are not, that would be a whole other story.
7-8 times a day in a woman who's never born a child is considered normal. But some people have small bladders, or over active kidneys that means they will go more often. I have both, over active kidneys and the bladder of an 8 year old girl (size wise), this means I will visit the bathroom more often during the day. Because I'm a full sized person, I have to drink the liquids of an adult... which means more peeing. It might be abnormal for the "average person" but it's perfectly normal for my anatomy. I slept ten hours or so last night, and I went to the bathroom with a full as can be bladder four times last night.

My doctors have only ever worried if I've been needing to go, but not having a full bladder (which is 5 or more oz for me), or if I'm going enough to dehydrate with an 80+oz intake.
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7-8 times a day in a woman who's never born a child is considered normal. But some people have small bladders, or over active kidneys that means they will go more often. I have both, over active kidneys and the bladder of an 8 year old girl (size wise), this means I will visit the bathroom more often during the day. Because I'm a full sized person, I have to drink the liquids of an adult... which means more peeing. It might be abnormal for the "average person" but it's perfectly normal for my anatomy. I slept ten hours or so last night, and I went to the bathroom with a full as can be bladder four times last night.

My doctors have only ever worried if I've been needing to go, but not having a full bladder (which is 5 or more oz for me), or if I'm going enough to dehydrate with an 80+oz intake.
Once an hour all day every day is 24 times a day which is nowhere near normal.
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I go every hour. EVERY day
7 to 8 times a day is probably pretty normal for everyone. However, the school day is only 6 to 7 hours of the day so 7 breaks are plenty for the average student imo.

As far as all the special circumstances you mentioned,
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I'm pretty sure that the teachers in the younger grades make exceptions for the "sometimes" children and those with special circumstances in all grades. If they are not, that would be a whole other story.
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7-8 times a day in a woman who's never born a child is considered normal. But some people have small bladders, or over active kidneys that means they will go more often. I have both, over active kidneys and the bladder of an 8 year old girl (size wise), this means I will visit the bathroom more often during the day. Because I'm a full sized person, I have to drink the liquids of an adult... which means more peeing. It might be abnormal for the "average person" but it's perfectly normal for my anatomy. I slept ten hours or so last night, and I went to the bathroom with a full as can be bladder four times last night.

My doctors have only ever worried if I've been needing to go, but not having a full bladder (which is 5 or more oz for me), or if I'm going enough to dehydrate with an 80+oz intake.
you have got to be in some type of medical book out there. You seem to have a personal anecdotal condition for many of the debates here and can't imagine someone hasn't written a dissertation about you yet

As for the OP, I'm guessing there was an issue with the kids at the school to have such a policy in place. 7 times in 6 (less if you factor in lunch periods) hours seems to sill give the kids ample opportunity to go.
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If you go every hour all day long, when do you sleep? And hopefully you have been to the dr. for a dx because that is NOT normal. I'm still of the mindset that 7 potty breaks a day is PLENTY~its once an hour or more so I don't see how you would have had to pay unless you were routinely leaving class.

I'm pretty sure that the teachers in the younger grades make exceptions for the "sometimes" children and those with special circumstances in all grades. If they are not, that would be a whole other story.
I wake up a LOT to go to the potty. I can't sleep very well actually. My doctors have always just said my bladder is smaller than usual and doesn't expand as much, but no one knows "why". There is a pill I can take, but due to blood pressure being low, I can't have it. No UTI's, bladder infections, etc. Everything else appears normal, except bladder placement is slightly off (probably more to do with childbirth than anything else). When pregnant, I was in the bathroom every 20 minutes. If I didn't empty exactly right? Every 10. It was hard! I have had a lot of tests done and the only "possible" dx is overactive bladder. Which is what you take the pill I can't take for. I was told I'll be at a higher risk for incontinence as I age (Yay me...). I was very much that way when pregnant if I didn't get to the toilet right away. I had to wear pads and everything. Sucked but what can I do? Other than migraines and this (which also is kind of in relation to a cystocele, urethral prolapse and rectocele I also just got dx with), I'm relatively healthy.
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I don't have a problem with them being allowed only a certain amount of potty breaks, as long as they aren't at set times since not everyone has to pee at 1 pm. ds1 doesn't empty his bladder completely when he pees, but he also only goes around 7-10 times a day, and never at night (never had night accidents either).
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I'm a teacher and there are issues if a school needs to make a policy on this issue rather than just use good ol' common sense.
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