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September 26th, 2011, 07:00 AM
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Facebook policies tricky for employers, workers - Technology & science - Tech and gadgets - msnbc.com

Justifiable, or Just plain nonsense?
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September 26th, 2011, 07:35 AM
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I don't know if this is the right thing to do, but my thoughts are this: If your FB or Twitter is public and easily accessible by anyone looking up your name- your complaints about work should be addressed by the company however they see fit. Obviously they should have it in their new hire paperwork so you understand upfront. If your FB or Twitter is private but you have bosses or coworkers as friends to follow you, then it should be handled the same way. If you use your FB or Twitter AT work to complain ABOUT work but your page is private, then it should be handled the same way. Most companies state to not use work computers for personal social media purposes and they let you know upfront they review your internet usage as needed.
I personally think it's sort of tacky to complain about work through personal social media anyways. If you choose to do it, don't add coworkers or bosses and keep your privacy settings locked down tight.
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September 26th, 2011, 07:39 AM
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Eh, I complain about work on my FB from time to time and its usually my coworkers or bosses commenting on my status heh Target doesn't take that stuff too seriously I don't think. Not from us mindless peons anyway, not sure how its handled in management situations.
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September 26th, 2011, 08:52 AM
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JUST posted this on my own Facebook page "say it forget it, write it regret it".

Like Alicia said most retail places wont take it so seriously, but if you're a higher up, and constantly *****ing about the company you work for, maybe they can find someone who will spend less time worrying about how horrible work is, and more time concentrating on what job they're supposed to be doing.
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September 26th, 2011, 11:00 AM
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I think the scenario of the guy getting fired for saying the company served "overcooked hot dogs and stale buns" was absolutely ludicrous. It's justifiable in firing someone for violating a privacy law (i.e being an employee in a hospital and talking about patients that came in), or disclosing classified information. But firing someone who just had a bad day at work and wanted to vent about in on their Facebook page is not justified. Sure, it may have been a momentary lapse in judgment (especially if you are friends with your boss), but it happens.

People just need to invest in better filters when it comes to the internet. When it's there, it's there...pretty much forever. And whether you want it to or not, or think it's fair or not...It can come back to bite you in the Arse.
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September 26th, 2011, 11:20 AM
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I've said some pretty awful things about my job... but never anything specific about the people that I work with or for. I think those are just asking for trouble.

I remember a big fuss over the holiday pay policy at one of my jobs, all the new hires (about 200 people) were whining on Facebook about it. lol. it was different than anything that they'd ever dealt with before and they were mad! The company tried to crack down on it, but they were advised that the people weren't doing anything illegal just venting about a government loophole that we felt they were unjustly taking advantage of. (the center was claiming to operate as a year round business. But they only had 3 people in on major holiday's and the center was officially closed. It allowed them to only have to pay double time on holidays - like easter, labour day etc-, rather than the usual double time and a half, and people did not like it at all).
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My employers have administrative access to our facebook (meaning even if they aren't on my friends list, they can see my page). I NEVER post about work. I don't have access to the internet or a cell phone during work, so that's not an issue.

I agree with how each case played out in the article.
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September 26th, 2011, 01:31 PM
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Holy crap, Leslie that would freak me out.
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My employers have administrative access to our facebook (meaning even if they aren't on my friends list, they can see my page). I NEVER post about work. I don't have access to the internet or a cell phone during work, so that's not an issue.

I agree with how each case played out in the article.
How does that work? Did you have to give them your password?
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September 26th, 2011, 02:35 PM
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Yeah how does that work? I'm so curious. How would that even be possible? Do you work for Facebook?
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September 26th, 2011, 02:39 PM
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Nope, when facebook started getting huge, they contacted facebook to get access. I'm assuming I signed something that gave them permission in some way. I work for the state, so that may make a difference. One of our attorneys told me this, but he did say that they don't creep around on our pages, they only go look if they are given information and/or someone is under investigation for something. We've had numerous people fired for various things, namely, mentioning inmates by name and stating something about them.

I've also known people to get fired for calling in sick and then subsequently posting their vacation pictures on their page. I have only a handful of coworkers because of the drama I hear about.
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September 26th, 2011, 02:41 PM
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Just found this:

Should Your Employer Have Access to Your Facebook Account? | WebProNews

So you're required to provide the information as a term of your employment. A bit creepy but I can understand how they might have their reasons. Hopefully it's only used if they're suspicious of something.
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September 26th, 2011, 03:09 PM
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So they have access without your password. Interesting! I wonder how many other types of jobs have this kind of access?
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Yep, they see what your friends see. Not access to your PM's or any private security settings.
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September 26th, 2011, 04:47 PM
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I dont think that it is fair for a company to go after you for something you are saying on your private time. If you want to vent, you should be able to.
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September 26th, 2011, 05:24 PM
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I think a company can certainly fire you for a lot less.

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September 26th, 2011, 05:46 PM
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I think that it's horrible we have allowed employers to have such control over our behavior on our personal time. If these comments or behaviors are not having a direct impact on my job performance then I can't see an employer morally (get that they can legally I just don't think they should be able to) being able to terminate you.
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September 28th, 2011, 10:57 AM
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For me there's a difference is saying the place I work does this..... and no mention of the place you work & you don't have it in your profile. But getting on line and saying

"Joe Shmoe motor sales sucks because...."

is totally different.
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