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November 3rd, 2011, 10:34 AM
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Has anyone heard of this case?

This video was released by this judge's daughter. Apparently her "crime" was "using the internet" back in 2004. This judge has a reputation of siding with abusers during child abuse cases.

The video is GRAPHIC, blatant abuse. Please do not watch it if you think you can't handle it. You have been warned.

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I'm not posting this as provocation of any kind, this is not an anti spanking debate, I am just really curious as to what if any punishment you feel this judge should get.
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November 3rd, 2011, 11:22 AM
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I would assume a criminal conviction would be an automatic removal from the bench and disbarment, no? Once he has had his due process then his professional ramifications can kick in.
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November 3rd, 2011, 11:26 AM
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I don't think it would be fair for him to continue to oversee in a family court setting. That kind of activity would show to me that he has a personal bias that would not protect the children at the best level they should be protected.
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November 3rd, 2011, 12:40 PM
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I would assume a criminal conviction would be an automatic removal from the bench and disbarment, no? Once he has had his due process then his professional ramifications can kick in.
Personally, I think someone should take a belt to his body and whip him the way he whipped her. But hey that's not going to happen.
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November 3rd, 2011, 02:03 PM
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I would assume a criminal conviction would be an automatic removal from the bench and disbarment, no? Once he has had his due process then his professional ramifications can kick in.
Depending on the jurisdiction, no. Most jurisdictions do automatically disbar for a criminal FELONY conviction (I can't watch the video at work, so I'm not sure what his conviction was?). However, there is no standard for permanent disbarments. He may have been disbarred for a conviction and able to reapply to the bar sometime after (again, varies by both jurisdiction and penalty). The American Bar Association actually disagrees with automatic disbarment because of criminal felony conviction.
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November 3rd, 2011, 02:27 PM
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He hasn't been convicted of anything as of yet. The video is of him giving his daughter with CP a rather brutal beating with a belt. If they are able to charge and convict him of assaulting a person with a disability it is a 2nd degree felony.

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Depending on the jurisdiction, no. Most jurisdictions do automatically disbar for a criminal FELONY conviction (I can't watch the video at work, so I'm not sure what his conviction was?). However, there is no standard for permanent disbarments. He may have been disbarred for a conviction and able to reapply to the bar sometime after (again, varies by both jurisdiction and penalty). The American Bar Association actually disagrees with automatic disbarment because of criminal felony conviction.
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November 3rd, 2011, 02:51 PM
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Holy ####### ####. That video is sick, he is sick, and her mother is sick. Rot in hell, #######. They both need to go to jail.
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it's probably useful to conceptually separate disbarment which would (permanently, or for a period of time) prevent him from practicing any type of law in Texas (or other states, if he's licensed there and disbarment proceedings were initiated in those other locations) from whether or not he should continue in his role as a judge.

He can be (and i think already has been?) suspended from his activities as a judge pending investigation, etc. and that seems the right thing to do since (for me at least) i found it very troubling that as a family court judge he ruled on cases involving parenting issues.

Whether he'll be sanctioned or disbarred ultimately will depend on whether his actions/behavior conflicted with his prof & ethical obligations as a member of the bar, regardless of whether this eventually results in a felony conviction...although if it does it probably increases the likelihood of some type of action being taken against him by the TX Bar.
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Ok, can't watch it. Therefore I don't know. I can't form an opinion. I have a really hard time watching abuse like that.
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Ummm.... O.M.F.G!
I read this story last night and I had NO IDEA the extent of the video. Holy crap. I had to turn my head. That was absolutely disgusting!
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November 3rd, 2011, 06:40 PM
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I think he should be "spanked in the fk'ing face"..
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I have a very close friend that has CP, and this girl reminds me so much of her. This just breaks my heart.
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November 3rd, 2011, 07:36 PM
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Judging by the reactions here I'm thinking I shouldn't watch the video. I don't think he should be disbarred. I think he should be tarred, feathered and flogged. Then jailed.
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November 4th, 2011, 02:08 AM
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As sick as the video is to watch, honestly I felt faint when the mother came and said to her "take it like a woman" I'm not sure why but that really bothered me.

It felt almost sexual, misogynistic and just plain ick.

Thanks for explaining the criminal side, as I had no idea how that would work. I guess now just wait and see if he actually gets convicted. I'm going to follow this one.
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I got an infraction for releasing my thoughts with curse words. JM, you suck smegma covered balls.
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He should be charged but he won't be
Judge will not face charges in beating video case - Houston Chronicle
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A family court judge won't face charges in the 2004 beating of his then-16-year-old daughter, an incident shown in a viral YouTube video, because the five-year statute of limitations has expired, Rockport Police Chief Tim Jayroe said Thursday.
Had the incident come to light sooner, Aransas County Court-at-Law Judge William Adams probably would have been charged with causing injury to a child or other assault-related offenses, Jayroe said.
“We believe that there was a criminal offense involved and that there was substantial evidence to indicate that, and under normal circumstances ... a charge could have been made,” Jayroe said.
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“We are looking to see if there are other offenses involved that could have a different statute,” Jayroe said.
Hillary Adams' ataxic cerebral palsy is not a severe enough disability to become a factor in any charges, Jayroe said.
“Her symptoms are that she has balance problems,” he said. “But she lives on her own, in her own home, drives a car, buys her own clothes, cooks her own meals. By definition, that is not handicapped.”
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November 4th, 2011, 04:05 AM
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Ugh that sucks! On this thread? LOL, I thought you just wrote those ### in

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Handicapped doesn't mean you can't live alone, buy your own stuff, and drive your own car. I'm handicapped and I can do all that.
Yay me too! I don't get this one.

I didn't watch it - thankfully read the responses 1st and just can't watch it now. I can only imagine that this wasn't the 1st or last time this was done. So sad.

I hope some crazy that he ruled against see this & takes matters into his own hands. Yeah violence isn't the answer but child abusers really get to me.
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November 4th, 2011, 08:01 AM
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Handicapped doesn't mean you can't live alone, buy your own stuff, and drive your own car. I'm handicapped and I can do all that.
Yes, my mom does all those things and she is definitely handicapped. She also has "balance problems" like the girl, but that means she has 15% balance of a regular person. That is no small handicap, it affects everything she does.
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