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  #1  
January 7th, 2012, 05:36 PM
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Colorado Student Banned from Yearbook Over Racy Photo | ABC News Blogs - Yahoo!


Does this student have a case, have her civil liberties been violated? Or do you think the picture is inappropriate? Even if the picture is Ok, does the yearbook staff have the right to make this decision?


I'm going with, no her rights were not violated and yes the yearbook staff has the right to determine what's in the yearbook. If it violates the school dress code then why would anyone assume it would be Ok in the school book?


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January 7th, 2012, 06:20 PM
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I have to agree with you.

And I have to admit, I do find the picture racy for a teenager. I've seen the pose many times over, and almost always it's used in selling sex.

I don't think it's appropriate for a year book at all.
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January 7th, 2012, 06:47 PM
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Yeah... that isn't yearbook appropriate. I'm sure she could send it to the producers of "Barely Legal" and they'd publish it though. People are such whiners.... "But school district!!! I wanna be a hooker in the yearboooooooooook!"
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January 7th, 2012, 08:01 PM
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No she doesn't have a case! I can't believe that her mother is fine with it. No way in hell would I let my kid pose like that for yearbook photo.
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January 7th, 2012, 08:11 PM
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She doesn't have a case.

Maybe momma wants her daughter to meet a sugar daddy and she could use her yearbook pic at Sugardaddy.com. No need to pay for professional pics. Times are tough...gotta save money.
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January 8th, 2012, 08:21 AM
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Well, since that outfit certainly goes against most, if not all, school dress codes, yes, they have a right not to publish it. Besides that, the yearbook and admin have the authority to pull something like that.
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January 8th, 2012, 10:19 AM
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That outfit screams against dress codes. So no I don't think her civil liberties were violated and I agree with the committee not publishing the picture. She had the chance to use an alternative picture, she did not. Therefore, she banned herself, not the other way around.
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January 8th, 2012, 08:57 PM
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All I can do is say wow. Seriously? That looks like an ad for a "Barely Legal" website. I fully agree with the yearbook committee and the actions of the school. That picture screams dress code violations. It's stupid they are trying to fight this. Use a different, less "future porn star" picture. This has no place in a school yearbook. At all. I can't imagine letting my daughter (if i had one) pose like this, in those clothes, for senior pictures.

EDIT: It may not have been so bad if she was wearing different clothes, say a nice dress or something. But the combination of the pose and the clothing is what makes it what it is. I'm actually curious to see what the rest of the photo shoot looks like. Are they all with these undertones? Or would others have been more fitting?

I guess we'll never know....
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January 9th, 2012, 04:18 AM
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Here's her quote from the article:
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“I feel like they aren’t allowing me to have my freedom of expression,” Spies told the Herald. ”I think the administration is wrong in this situation, and I don’t want this to happen to other people.”
What she really said while she stomped her foot and twirled her hair:

"WhatEVERRRR Losers!!!
I .. um.. feel like they aren't like allowing me to like have my freedom of expression or something. And I think the administration is like wrong or something in this situation, and I ...um... like don't want this to happen to other people .. or something. Like, you know right? As If!"
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January 9th, 2012, 06:02 AM
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My office web filter appears to have blocked the picture.... what does that tell you?

What a little whiner. They offered to run the picture elsewhere in the yearbook, just not as her senior pic so she can hardly say they banned her.
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January 9th, 2012, 10:46 AM
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Wow- no her rights have not been violated. Just smacks of yet another child in this world that is convinced the sun rises and sets out of their hiney because their parents have told them so.

She's getting just what she wants too getting this picture circulated globally and interviews with Lauer etc. What a joke.

I scoff at her general direction.
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January 9th, 2012, 11:19 AM
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I don't think she has much of a case from a civil liberties perspective.

The one thing that bothered me though was that the yearbook staff offered her the opportunity to run the photo instead as a paid advertisement as they denied her ability to use it as her official photo. Personally I think the photo is inappropriate for a yearbook, but I think it's a mixed message and odd outcome if they're saying "too racy for the official photo, but we have no issue including as long as you pay to run it". If it's too racy, then it's too racy to include, period....I think it's bizarre to claim that it's inappropriate for an "award winning yearbook" but then say you'll include it as an ad...
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January 9th, 2012, 11:37 AM
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A picture doesn't show up when I click the link.

From the descriptions, no, doesn't sound like her civil liberties were violated. Every school had dress codes and you have to follow them. I'm all for people expressing who they are, but in doing so, sometimes you're not going to be able to go to certain places and so on. This is one of those things. You can be who you are all the other times, just not for school pictures.
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January 9th, 2012, 12:12 PM
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My senior picture had to be a headshot only.

I didn't think the picture was that bad - nothing worse than you'd see in a magazine. But I don't think it was year book appropriate either.

She just wants her 15 minutes of fame. Sadly that is all she will get.
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January 9th, 2012, 12:37 PM
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What happened to senior pictures that were shoulders and head wearing the drape thing? That was all we got for our "senior" pic in the yearbook. If someone wanted to show more "personality" they would be in club pictures, or students or parents would buy pages in the back and usually do a collage of pics including ones from growing up with a message like "we're so proud of you!"

But yeah, do you really want to be remembered as the girl with the skanky senior pic in the yearbook? Do you want your kids going through it and see that?
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January 9th, 2012, 12:39 PM
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I don't get why the mom isn't thanking the yearbook committee
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January 9th, 2012, 12:44 PM
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A picture doesn't show up when I click the link.

From the descriptions, no, doesn't sound like her civil liberties were violated. Every school had dress codes and you have to follow them. I'm all for people expressing who they are, but in doing so, sometimes you're not going to be able to go to certain places and so on. This is one of those things. You can be who you are all the other times, just not for school pictures.
She was posed somewhat in a provocative manner with a yellow semi mini skirt and a midriff shirt that covered just her breast and a bit more. I have yet to see one school that allows that type of shirt to be worn on campus.
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January 9th, 2012, 01:17 PM
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There is also another pic of her that they rejected. She is in a skintight dress with her back partially arched Seriously, if she wants to do those kinds of pictures send her to get some professional shots done. This is a school photo, not a hope-to-be-a-model portfolio.
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January 10th, 2012, 03:04 AM
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From what I can pull up by google imaging her, it may be a problem that she doesn't actually have an appropriate picture to submit. All of the ones I can find, she doesn't have enough clothing on, literally, for any dress code of any high school I have ever heard of. I couldnt' find one where she had a whole shirt on.

As far as them allowing her to "buy an ad" - that surprises me less than other people I guess. Here we didn't have ads you buy as an individual, but we do have ones local photographers buy & the pics in there would not have been ones you could submit for your senior pic either. Nothing like this, but for instance one girl had one where it looked like she was being electrocuted & all her hair was standing on end. It was funny & fit her personality. It would have been rejected as a senior portrait though. Here you still need a head & shoulders shot to get in. My nephew's yearbook pic though is him setting on a fountain, and you can see most of his body in it, so I am sure some are different. The school didn't not allow her to hand out her own pics to other students though. I don't see how they are discriminating. If an 18 yr old male senior had a pic taking of him smoking a fat cigar I highly doubt they would allow that in either. In fact, they may not even allow him to hand that photo out to other students. It boils down to school policy really & she wasn't in line with it & should not act like a spoiled entitled brat when they stick to their guns on it. I am not shocked he is though sonce her parents are backing her on it - she learned it somewhere. They are the ones who paid for the pics I am guessing. My parents would have strung me up for even taking a pic like that for a senior pic.
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January 14th, 2012, 07:50 PM
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Most school districts in CO are conservative. She clearly needs to understand that it is not violating her rights by not publishing her photo that is violating the school's very clear dress policy (trust me, most of the dress codes are the same throughout the schools in this state). The school has to uphold standards for the rest of the students. By allowing her to be in the yearbook dressed like that, they potentially open up a can of worms where everyone starts crying foul. Most parents would not want their daughters looking like that in PRINT anyway, so this is also a parental issue. I think the school is VERY much within their rights in this case and I'm glad someone finally has the guts to tell the kids NO you can't do that. Obviously, standards of modesty have not been set for this kid by her family, so the school had to step in. Sorry, but it's true. You don't know how many girls I see wearing practically nothing in below zero at my dd's bus stop in the morning.....it starts at home...It really does.
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