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January 17th, 2012, 07:45 PM
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I have a question about the Epipen. Is the medications in the epi always the same, or is it different for each allergy?
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January 17th, 2012, 07:53 PM
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I believe it is the same. At least with the different people with allergies I know it is. The EMTs also have it and inject it. My friend's DD was stung by ants and started swelling. The EMTs gave her a shot.
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January 17th, 2012, 08:07 PM
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Isn't the epipen a dose of adrenaline? I believe that's what helps fight off the allergic reactions. Off to doctor google.
OK so doctor google says is epinephrine. EpiPen Information from Drugs.com
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January 17th, 2012, 08:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HappyHippy
I have a question about the Epipen. Is the medications in the epi always the same, or is it different for each allergy?
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yes. it's an Epinephrine auto injector. It's a type of adrenaline. It increases heart rate, constricts blood vessels, dilates air passages and participates in the fight-or-flight response.
It doesn't last forever though, so extra treatment may be needed depending on the severity of the allergy. I know with my ex, every dose of epi would make his digestion slow/stop.. and that can be very painful, he'd end up in the hospital on pain meds with an IV every time. His brother's allergy was even worse, we never once had to actually use my boyfriends epi pen, he made it to the hospital each time (thankfully). His brother had to have a pen (he actually had to carry multiples since they ddin't last long for him), as his allergy was MUCH worse.
My ex's brother describes the meds as "anxiety attack in a pen" since the drug would make him feel the same way his panic attacks would.
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January 17th, 2012, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ~Tithen~
yes. it's an Epinephrine auto injector. It's a type of adrenaline. It increases heart rate, constricts blood vessels, dilates air passages and participates in the fight-or-flight response.
It doesn't last forever though, so extra treatment may be needed depending on the severity of the allergy. I know with my ex, every dose of epi would make his digestion slow/stop.. and that can be very painful, he'd end up in the hospital on pain meds with an IV every time. His brother's allergy was even worse, we never once had to actually use my boyfriends epi pen, he made it to the hospital each time (thankfully). His brother had to have a pen (he actually had to carry multiples since they ddin't last long for him), as his allergy was MUCH worse.
My ex's brother describes the meds as "anxiety attack in a pen" since the drug would make him feel the same way his panic attacks would.
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Our old pharmacist at work had to give an epi does when someone had an allergic reaction (or they thought it was) to a flu shot. Kid moved, he stabbed himself with the pen - looked like he was on speed. They both had to go to the hospital but that poor guy was a mess. He looked like he was going to jump out of his skin.
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January 17th, 2012, 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by BittyBugsMama
Our old pharmacist at work had to give an epi does when someone had an allergic reaction (or they thought it was) to a flu shot. Kid moved, he stabbed himself with the pen - looked like he was on speed. They both had to go to the hospital but that poor guy was a mess. He looked like he was going to jump out of his skin.
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yeah it's pretty awful to witness. I've also heard it described as a caged animal or cornered cat.
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January 17th, 2012, 10:32 PM
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Enigma... or oxymoron?
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Originally Posted by Linzie
Why does it matter if the actual cheerios look alike if it will say "Peanut Butter" right there on the box? And if your child has allergies to foods, just make sure you have your own snacks so you know they aren't getting something that could hurt them.
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Ditto. Granted, I'm an adult, but I have my gluten-free shelf in the pantry. Anytime you're dealing with a food allergy, it requires a bit of diligence to prevent exposure to the allergen. Such is life.
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January 17th, 2012, 11:03 PM
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Here's the part of the article that really has bothered me:
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Let's say your severely peanut-allergic 2-year-old spies a Cheerio on the bench at the playground. She wouldn't think twice before popping it in her mouth: Mommy gives me these!
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Seriously? Are parents no longer teacing children to not eat food of the ground? Food allergies or not, parents should teach their children to not eat off the ground! My mother had me so terrified that people were randomly leaving around posined food and drinks that just by touching them I'd end up in the hospitial at best, that to this day I cannot pick up an empty starbucks cup someone left sitting on a Target shelf because the empty cup was too heavy to carry back to a trash can without fear of having a reaction that would result in me convulsing on the floor while having a very bad acid trip flashback. This fear is not helped by my Criminal Minds obbession. So sure, maybe my mother scarred me for life and I'll never clean up after my lazy peers, but she also made sure I never ate food off the ground!
I look forward to trying these mixed with some yogurt, banana slices, and a drizzle of honey. Not sure how they'd fair in milk, but I'd give it a shot. Oh...or made into rice krispie squares...yum.
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January 17th, 2012, 11:59 PM
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DOh!
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Some parents are morons.
I have children with food allergies(one of them being life threatening), and I have food allergies myself. I wouldn't expect others to adapt around us, that's absurd.
My kids learn early on when they can and cannot accept food from others.
Granted, I can honestly say I've never left a two year old to their own devices by a park bench where they might mistakenly eat an allergen riddled food...(that sounds utterly ridiculous by the way, what kind of moron does that?)..but still.
The boxes are labeled quite well. No reason to ban, or even suggest it. I don't honestly believe most parents with children who have food allergies would support such a thing. Most of them aren't idiots and not only do they do a fine job of monitoring what their children eat/get, but also teaching them.
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January 18th, 2012, 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by midnight.train
Here's the part of the article that really has bothered me:
Seriously? Are parents no longer teacing children to not eat food of the ground? Food allergies or not, parents should teach their children to not eat off the ground! My mother had me so terrified that people were randomly leaving around posined food and drinks that just by touching them I'd end up in the hospitial at best, that to this day I cannot pick up an empty starbucks cup someone left sitting on a Target shelf because the empty cup was too heavy to carry back to a trash can without fear of having a reaction that would result in me convulsing on the floor while having a very bad acid trip flashback. This fear is not helped by my Criminal Minds obbession. So sure, maybe my mother scarred me for life and I'll never clean up after my lazy peers, but she also made sure I never ate food off the ground!
I look forward to trying these mixed with some yogurt, banana slices, and a drizzle of honey. Not sure how they'd fair in milk, but I'd give it a shot. Oh...or made into rice krispie squares...yum.
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I think its a valid point. Up until a certain age, I don't think kids grasp what allergy really means. I've heard these cheerios look very similar to the mutli-grain and in a 4 year old's world, they might take some from a friend knowing they've "had" them before. At almost 3, my son will still pick food up off the ground and put it in his mouth, no matter how many times in the past I've told him not to. He doesn't have any allergies and exposing them to germs actually makes them healthier but I still think its gross that I don't know where the random french fry came from when we are running around at Jungle Java.
OT, The starbucks cups all over the place make me wanna punch someone.... Adults are so freaking lazy its unbelievable.
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January 18th, 2012, 08:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by midnight.train
Here's the part of the article that really has bothered me:
Seriously? Are parents no longer teacing children to not eat food of the ground? Food allergies or not, parents should teach their children to not eat off the ground! My mother had me so terrified that people were randomly leaving around posined food and drinks that just by touching them I'd end up in the hospitial at best, that to this day I cannot pick up an empty starbucks cup someone left sitting on a Target shelf because the empty cup was too heavy to carry back to a trash can without fear of having a reaction that would result in me convulsing on the floor while having a very bad acid trip flashback. This fear is not helped by my Criminal Minds obbession. So sure, maybe my mother scarred me for life and I'll never clean up after my lazy peers, but she also made sure I never ate food off the ground!
I look forward to trying these mixed with some yogurt, banana slices, and a drizzle of honey. Not sure how they'd fair in milk, but I'd give it a shot. Oh...or made into rice krispie squares...yum.
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Agree. ds1 knows not to put food in his mouth that he finds, and ds2 is 21 months old and pretty much has that down too. I feel like in this article this mom wants everyone to cater to her child.
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January 18th, 2012, 12:15 PM
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Ha, I don't care if my kids (DS) eat food off my floor, but I don't let them pick up stuff when we are out tho. I don't care about germs like that. lol Bad momma.
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