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January 15th, 2012, 10:01 AM
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Platinum Supermommy
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Tithen~
Remember me ended in the WTC disaster.... does Robert Pattinson get a free pass from being boycotted cause he's.. well.. RPatz?
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There was also Flight 93 and World Trade Center with Nicolas Cage. I don't remember if there was any negative press surrounding them or not.
As to the OP, I agree with Lauren and Leslie. I think its okay to make the film but I can also understand why this woman has so many negative feelings when she sees reminders.
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January 15th, 2012, 12:05 PM
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Mega Super Mommy
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I don't think this movie should be banned or anything, but I do see where this woman is coming from. I didn't lose my spouse or sibling in 9/11, but I still feel it is too fresh for ME to have any desire to see it. I can't imagine how I would feel if I had lost a close loved one in the tragedy. I agree with Lauren and Leslie. I don't think it should be banned, but I don't see how putting a warning before the commercial is that big a deal.
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January 15th, 2012, 12:20 PM
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Saving Private Ryan was pretty controversial too, because it reminded many veterans, especially special forces soldiers, of their time deployed. Disclosures are nice but pretending things didn't happen by banning a movie won't negate the fact that these things have happened in real life.
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January 15th, 2012, 12:24 PM
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Mega Super Mommy
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GSLynn
Saving Private Ryan was pretty controversial too, because it reminded many veterans, especially special forces soldiers, of their time deployed. Disclosures are nice but pretending things didn't happen by banning a movie won't negate the fact that these things have happened in real life.
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Agreed
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January 15th, 2012, 12:50 PM
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I am interested in how the movie plays out and how sensitive to the issue it is. I get her feelings. Sure.
Honestly, I want to see how it is because of the character with Asperger's syndrome.
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January 16th, 2012, 09:22 AM
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It looks like a good movie to me too.
Let her boycott it.. There will be thousands of other people seeing it to make up for her nonattendance.
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January 18th, 2012, 04:32 PM
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DOh!
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Since the movie isn't actually about 9/11 or even focused around it, but rather events after and how some people dealt(and deal) with them, I don't think she has much of a leg to stand on. I think those supporting her, are actually doing her absolutely no good, too.
There are a lot of things one could be sensitive to, or have a hard time dealing with. But when you begin to associate anything and everything with that one event, anything that even remotely mentions it, you've created a huge problem for yourself and it's not up to others to fix it or tiptoe around it to protect you or make you feel better. That sounds a lot more harsh than it should, but it's true.
There are some past events in my life that certain things tend to trigger memories-especially bad ones, and feelings that I'd rather not feel, thoughts I'd rather not think, etc... But I've no right to suggest others need to, or should, feel the same, or that others' actions ought to reflect some sort of action that's sensitive to me and only me. That's actually really selfish, imo.
There are some things I can't look at, or hear, without feeling a pit inside me, sometimes breaking down in tears, or going into an anxiety attack. There are places I have to avoid, even commercials on tv that bring about these same feelings. Those are my issues, my feelings and my thoughts, and I am solely responsible for them. I don't expect the world to be sensitive to my needs. It sucks, when you're on this side, the side that feels helpless at times, sad, angry, etc.. when faced with these things. But it's not up to the world to make that better for you. Ignoring the tragedies, and ignoring the things that make me feel that way, isn't going to help me move on with my life. Now that's how *I* deal, and I wouldn't dare suggest another should feel the same, or deal with it the same. But I think the request is unreasonable, on all levels.
It would be the same as me requesting to not see certain things that happen on a daily basis because it brings about a tragedy I don't want to keep reliving. That's unreasonable. It's one way to feel as if you wish everyone could do, and feel, the same as you do. It's a completely different thing to actually publicly suggest it, and request it.
Perhaps one good thing could come from such a public display, and that is perhaps the woman will get the help she likely needs(maybe she doesn't even realize she needs it, or doesn't know where to go, whatever). She's opening herself up to even more issues, not to mention criticism by trying to force her own issues on the world, though. It might force her to deal with them on a level she may not have been before. Both a good, and bad thing, for her.
I've been there.
I think she probably has a lot more issues than maybe even she knows, and I don't blame her one bit. I've got tons of them myself. Difference between us is I can see them, and I don't try to force them on everyone around me. I don't try to make the world, and others, adjust their lives to compensate for the things I can't deal with.
Millions of people across the globe manage this on a daily basis. Millions of us don't always do the most fantastic job at it either. But if we all started making requests, or suggesting the rest of the world should revolve around how we feel, we'd all sound a bit off our rocker.
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