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February 7th, 2012, 09:06 AM
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American kids denied food stamps in Alabama under immigration law | The Lookout - Yahoo! News

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February 7th, 2012, 09:27 AM
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Its a tough situation. The parents are here illegally and really shouldn't be able to get government aid but the children didn't choose to be born and they are citizens of the US so they should be eligible. Dunno about this one.
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February 7th, 2012, 09:30 AM
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Just curious. How do the parents file for these services and how is their income or lack of income verified when deciding if they are eligible financially if they are here illegally?
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February 7th, 2012, 11:27 AM
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This is why achor baby laws need to be changed.
I'm curious... changed to?
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February 7th, 2012, 11:50 AM
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I think they need to be done away with. Illegally entering into the country to have a baby shouldnt automatically make that baby an American citizen. As far as I know, the us is the only country that even allows this.
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February 7th, 2012, 12:03 PM
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I've known people who have gone to Canada to have their babies and they are dual citizens until they are 18 and have to pick one citizenship or the other.
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February 7th, 2012, 12:12 PM
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You're correct Alicia.. Canada has the same Birthright laws as the US.

My friends were posted to the US when their son was born, he has both citizenship's right now. But since they were both Canadians he will have to choose at 18.

Thanks for clarifying Tiffany. Immigration fascinates me right now, since I'm currently running the gauntlet for them myself.
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February 7th, 2012, 12:15 PM
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I looked it up after I said it. Thebus and Canada seem to be the only developed nations with automatic birthright citizenship laws in place.

And just to clarify, I do think this situation is sad, and I'm not advocating this child going hungry, but if we had better immigration laws to begin with, this wouldn't be a problem.
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I say lets stop sending so much foreign aid and their would be enough money to feed everybody in the US. JMHO
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February 7th, 2012, 01:05 PM
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How would better immigration laws prevent people from coming into our country? They come here illegally, regardless of our immigration laws.

What does sending foreign aid have to do with this debate at all? This is about feeding legal US citizens who are minors who have illegal immigrant parents.
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February 7th, 2012, 02:06 PM
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I don't hate illegal immigrants like most seem too. If you seen the conditions they lived in, I bet you would do the same thing. Sorry, but we have more than enough money and room for these people. This is something else for our government to put a us vs them label on it. It breeds hate as seen in this thread.
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I think the parents should get the aid to feed the child.

As a side questions. If you had dual citizenship like the US/Canada thing mentioned, why would you have to pick at 18, couldn't you continue to be a dual citizen? I know other places are like that too, but was just curious as to why.
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I think the parents should get the aid to feed the child.

As a side questions. If you had dual citizenship like the US/Canada thing mentioned, why would you have to pick at 18, couldn't you continue to be a dual citizen? I know other places are like that too, but was just curious as to why.
Probably for legal reasons like voting and such.

I don't think the children should have to suffer based on their parent's immigration status.
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February 7th, 2012, 03:52 PM
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They should be eligible for foodstamps, even if the parents are not.
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February 7th, 2012, 04:35 PM
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That's tough. The kids shouldn't be punished for the parents' crimes.
And I think our birthright citizenship law is nonsense as well. Your citizenship should be based on the status of your parents, not which pile of dirt your mother pushed you out on.
If one parent is an American citizen and the other is not, then do the duel citizenship thing like Canada.


AND I agree with the foreign aid comment made by a PP. Why the hell does the US have enough money to send to Africa and Asia and who knows where else, but we're not helping our own neighbors have a country they don't want to run away from? WHY is it so much better here to make them so desperate to be here, WHY aren't we helping Mexico be a country that the citizens want to be a part of? Isn't the Mexican government ashamed? I'd be so embarrassed if the US was such a dump that citizens were leaving so desperately they'd sneak into another country unlawfully. There, I said it.
And I know that not all of the immigrants that come in through Mexico are Mexican. And I know that there are people here illegally from many other countries, even European ones. But Mexico seems to have a real problem on their hands and I think that as their neighbors, and with the wealth we do have, we should be helping them at the source of the problem instead of slapping band aids on the little problems as they trickle into our country. It's not like we can't. I don't understand why we're not.
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That's tough. The kids shouldn't be punished for the parents' crimes.
And I think our birthright citizenship law is nonsense as well. Your citizenship should be based on the status of your parents, not which pile of dirt your mother pushed you out on.
If one parent is an American citizen and the other is not, then do the duel citizenship thing like Canada.


AND I agree with the foreign aid comment made by a PP. Why the hell does the US have enough money to send to Africa and Asia and who knows where else, but we're not helping our own neighbors have a country they don't want to run away from? WHY is it so much better here to make them so desperate to be here, WHY aren't we helping Mexico be a country that the citizens want to be a part of? Isn't the Mexican government ashamed? I'd be so embarrassed if the US was such a dump that citizens were leaving so desperately they'd sneak into another country unlawfully. There, I said it.
And I know that not all of the immigrants that come in through Mexico are Mexican. And I know that there are people here illegally from many other countries, even European ones. But Mexico seems to have a real problem on their hands and I think that as their neighbors, and with the wealth we do have, we should be helping them at the source of the problem instead of slapping band aids on the little problems as they trickle into our country. It's not like we can't. I don't understand why we're not.
very well said.




I also think that travelers should be given more information about being in the USA. I know there's a lot that I didn't know I was supposed to do that could possibly affect my application (it won't, because I'm Canadian, but it could if I was from other countries) for permanent resident status. You can very quickly become illegal while within the confines of your visa.
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This is a very tough one. I feel badly that these children are being denied, but at the same time, I don't think they should be citizens to begin with.

I can't stand that a person can hop the border have a child and that child is automatically a citizen. I do like that they have made it so that they can still be deported and can come back once they're 18. But I feel that if the parents couldn't take the time out to come here properly, then their children shouldn't be able to have the same benefits that other citizens have.

I really do hate the idea of kids going hungry, but maybe if stuff like this happens then parents would think twice about crossing the border just to have their baby. We have enough homeless and poverty stricken true citizens here as is, we don't need more that aren't citizens. It's sad but hey life isn't fair.
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My heart can't take the thought of people going hungry. We are so gluttonous and greedy in America. Yes, I love my country, but we are!! lol I feel like it goes against my humanitarian morals to shun people that are already coming from such poor countries with horrible conditions.

That's the bleeding heart in me. I'm not religious at all, but I think Jesus would approve of feeding the poor and downtrodden...regardless of laws. And laws to regulate things are fine. I'm not saying it's a free for all, but I do think people that hire illegal employees are taking advantage of them and should be the real criminals...not the people willing to work for so little.

And this is my home state and let me assure that this has everything to do with racism.
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Threads like this make me happy I was born in the "right" country.
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