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February 17th, 2012, 05:33 PM
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World News - New evidence boosts claim that Hitler had a secret French love child


If it were possible that you might be related to Hitler (or any other person deemed "evil" by the majority of the world) would you want to know for sure? If you did know for sure, would you admit it?
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February 17th, 2012, 05:38 PM
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I'm honestly not sure. I've always wanted to learn more about my heritage, especially my German heritage because I already know lots of my Norweigen side. But I am afraid of finding out that some of my family were involved in the SS or anything like that. It is possible since I am a large majority German. I guess I would want to find out about my family, and if I found out I was related to Hitler or DH was related to Mussolini (sp) for example, I would probably keep that to myself/within my family.
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February 17th, 2012, 05:43 PM
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I'm honestly not sure. I've always wanted to learn more about my heritage, especially my German heritage because I already know lots of my Norweigen side. But I am afraid of finding out that some of my family were involved in the SS or anything like that. It is possible since I am a large majority German. I guess I would want to find out about my family, and if I found out I was related to Hitler or DH was related to Mussolini (sp) for example, I would probably keep that to myself/within my family.
I agree. My largely German heritage could very easily lead down a road to something I wouldn't want to know. I feel the same way about finding out how far back my family goes here in America and whether my ancestors owned slaves or not. Its a very uncomfortable feeling for me. I can't honestly say one way or the other whether I would want to know but if I did find out, I think I would keep it to myself.
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February 18th, 2012, 08:37 AM
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I would want to know. I think it would be a pretty unique teaching tool for my children. History is what it is, there is no changing it. Now that we know better, we do better, and I think that is a wonderful message to pass on. If we let history go to the wayside, where will we go from here?
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February 18th, 2012, 09:23 AM
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I would like to learn I was and I wouldn't have a problem admitting it. It's not like I'M Hitler or will do what he did.
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February 18th, 2012, 03:34 PM
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I AM related to Hilter, more specifically Eva Braun. I'd have to look at the documentation that my grandmother had to make sure what the exact relation is. It's been years since I have looked at it. I don't have a problem admitting it. 1) It's seriously distantly. 2) It doesn't mean that I am Hitler, or that I'm a bad person. 3) He's not the only "interesting" relation I have. My great-great-great grandparents were German Jewish immigrants. When they got to the United States, their last name was Gleuck, and whoever did their paperwork spelled their name wrong and on their certificates, it said Glick, so then the rest of my family was Glick. I'm also related to a family that completely settled an area near where I live. They lived in dugouts, and one of them was married to a Cherokee woman. Unfortunately she wasn't registered, so I'm not registered. My husband is a registered Cherokee. He's 1/512 Cherokee. I'm 1/64, but it doesn't count. So our daughter will be a registered Cherokee and I find all of those to be infinitely more interesting than being related distantly to Hilter.
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Yes i would want to know my heritage as far back as it can be traced. I think it would be interesting to know family history. Just because you were related to someone who did some pretty horrible things does NOT make you a bad person, even remotely. And anyone who uses past ancestors to place blame on someone is an idiot, IMO. It's not like you could control what they did. Once a person dies, their own sins die with them.
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I would like to learn I was and I wouldn't have a problem admitting it. It's not like I'M Hitler or will do what he did.
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February 18th, 2012, 11:44 PM
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Of course I'd want to know. I'd have no qualms admitting it, either.
History is just that, history. You can't take away, hide, omit, whatever, the bad parts of history just because you don't like it. It all makes up what the world is today and I find that fascinating.
I have had some less than savory distant relatives and it doesn't bother me in the least to say that. I'm not them, they aren't me. But they are a very vital part of our World's history. Just as you, I, our children, their children..so on and so forth, are/will be.
Maybe that's an odd way of looking at it, but I don't think so.

I teach my children to learn from their, and my, mistakes. The same as I teach them to learn from their ancestors' mistakes. We're not perfect, any of us, and someday we will be another person's distant relative, and part of history. I don't want to pass on the message that we should be ashamed of our relatives and the things they've done. I want to pass on the message that we know better, so we do better.

I have all sorts of really cool distant relatives. Some did some very, very, very wrong things. Some did some really awesome things. Some didn't really do a whole lot of anything worth being put in the history books. But every single one of them paved the way for others, including me. None of us would be here at all if it weren't for our distant relatives. I see no reason to be ashamed, unless of course you fail to learn from history and therefore repeat it. Then, you'd have reason to be ashamed of your own actions. But others' actions? Nah, not really your responsibility.
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February 19th, 2012, 12:10 AM
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I would want to know, but I'm not sure what I'd do with the information.

We have large gaps in our family tree. Grandmother has a sibling who went MIA in the 50's, we've never been able to locate anything on her. The man on my father's birth certificate is not his father, and my grandmother held fast in her refusing to tell us until Alzheimer's took away the memory. I'd love nothing more than to fill those gaps with knowledge, even if they weren't good news or good people.
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Well, I don't think I'm related to Hitler, but I know for a fact I'm descended from a fairly large number of slave-owners and Confederate soldiers on my father's side of the family. We have detailed accounts of some of their stories. I'm not bothered by it, and actually I find it fascinating. I'm not accountable for the sins of my ancestors. If I were, then the concept of free will would have no meaning.

I do think that the closer the genetic relation to someone infamous, the more discomfiting it becomes. I'll admit that I would be pretty creeped out if I discovered that Hitler was really my father or my half-brother or something. But if he were a distant relation, it would just be an interesting fact and nothing more.
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February 19th, 2012, 06:34 AM
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I don't think it would bother me. Much like everyone else has said, it wouldn't reflect on who I am. It wouldn't be my opening line when I met new people but if conversations on lineage were to happen I'd share it.
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February 19th, 2012, 11:01 AM
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I personally would want to know because my curiosity has no limits, but I don't think I'd made it public if I were a close relation to someone that was really horrible. I've had to make my peace with the slave issue because that's an unavoidable fact. There are black people whose last name is what my maiden name was, so I'm assuming that somewhere along the way, some of my ancestors owned slaves. Yes that was very bad, but that was also the norm back then. They weren't going above and beyond the societal norms to be evil.
I think though that if I found out I were a close relation to someone infamously cruel, I'd probably feel dirty about it. I can't really explain why. I just wouldn't want people to know, because I wouldn't want people to think there might be any guilt by association.

Also, the reason I asked these questions in the debate isn't because of the article itself, but the comments at the bottom where people were saying that if they were related to Hitler they wouldn't want to know or if they knew they'd never admit it.
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February 19th, 2012, 11:44 AM
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I think it would be interesting to know. I have no clue what my ancestry holds on either side, and don't even know where to start honestly.
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I AM related to Hilter, more specifically Eva Braun. I'd have to look at the documentation that my grandmother had to make sure what the exact relation is. It's been years since I have looked at it. I don't have a problem admitting it. 1) It's seriously distantly. 2) It doesn't mean that I am Hitler, or that I'm a bad person. 3) He's not the only "interesting" relation I have. My great-great-great grandparents were German Jewish immigrants. When they got to the United States, their last name was Gleuck, and whoever did their paperwork spelled their name wrong and on their certificates, it said Glick, so then the rest of my family was Glick. I'm also related to a family that completely settled an area near where I live. They lived in dugouts, and one of them was married to a Cherokee woman. Unfortunately she wasn't registered, so I'm not registered. My husband is a registered Cherokee. He's 1/512 Cherokee. I'm 1/64, but it doesn't count. So our daughter will be a registered Cherokee and I find all of those to be infinitely more interesting than being related distantly to Hilter.
I find it interesting that people can register and receive benefits as Cherokee when the Cherokee blood in them is so diluted.
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^^Me too. I'm 1/16 Blackfoot Indian and my husband is almost the same Cherokee and nobody in our families are registered. This was news to me.
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I don't know what I am because a lot of the women in my family were raised by fathers that weren't their bio-dads. I come from a long long of hoochie mama's that didn't know the dad of their babies.
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February 19th, 2012, 02:04 PM
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According to this website:How to Register or Get your CDIB Card

Bottom of page states:
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Your great great great grandparents, full name, birth, death and marriage certificates for both. (born 1825-1830)

A list of rolls that may be of assistance during this time period. You will need to know which tribe.

Reservation Roll ~ 1817

Emigration Roll ~ 1817~1835

Census Records

If you are still researching at this point, then you are doing it for your own personal satisfaction, that you are Native American, and there should be more people like you!! At this point unless your family intermarried with another Native American you are only 1/128, this is not a high enough blood quantum to be excepted by many tribes.
Jillian, 1/16th isn't too "diluted." You should look into it if it interests you!
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I find it interesting that people can register and receive benefits as Cherokee when the Cherokee blood in them is so diluted.
He'd only be able to receive any benefits in Oklahoma, not Texas. If I was registered, I'd probably only be able to in New Mexico, neither of us in Texas. I think it's interesting too, though. His grandparents did it for him, so I don't really know the full extent of it, and the fact that he went to college in Texas, that part of it never actually mattered. It's just neat to know your heritage. He's way more Scottish than Native American, but not too many people care about that much here.
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Well, I don't think I'm related to Hitler, but I know for a fact I'm descended from a fairly large number of slave-owners and Confederate soldiers on my father's side of the family. We have detailed accounts of some of their stories. I'm not bothered by it, and actually I find it fascinating. I'm not accountable for the sins of my ancestors. If I were, then the concept of free will would have no meaning.

I do think that the closer the genetic relation to someone infamous, the more discomfiting it becomes. I'll admit that I would be pretty creeped out if I discovered that Hitler was really my father or my half-brother or something. But if he were a distant relation, it would just be an interesting fact and nothing more.
I agree with the bolded. After reading Helter Skelter years back I always wondered if Charles Manson's 17 children knew that he was their father.

I think I might find it interesting to have someone in my distant family history but someone within a few generations might be kinda strange. Heck I don't even like to admit being related to my MIL and she isn't even infamous!
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