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April 5th, 2012, 02:37 PM
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Minnesota Waitress Sues After Police Seize $12,000 'Tip' - Yahoo! News

This story really bothers me. This women was trying to do the right thing by reporting it. So much for being honest.
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April 5th, 2012, 03:02 PM
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She gets to keep it
Moorhead police will return seized $12,000 to Fryn' Pan waitress | INFORUM | Fargo, ND
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Great debate!
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April 5th, 2012, 04:14 PM
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****! Yahoo news just had this on their headlines right before I posted! Thanks for sharing. I'll get over being disgruntled now! Glad she got to keep the money.

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April 5th, 2012, 04:21 PM
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LOL, I honestly think this was the shortest debate ever.
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April 6th, 2012, 07:42 AM
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Well you know fried chicken DOES smell a lot like pot, I could see how they messed that one up
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April 6th, 2012, 06:21 PM
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Well, technically we could make it into a debate.
Should someone tipped or gifted a large sum of money that is gained through illegal means be allowed to keep that money?
What if it was money stolen in a robbery?
What if there is no doubt who the rightful owners are?
Not debating the moral thing to do, but would the receiver of the money be able to keep it?
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April 6th, 2012, 07:10 PM
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Ethically no. But waitresses get paid crap so if someone left a stolen $12,000 for a tip I would say let the waitress keep it. I guess that's not fair to the person from whom it was stolen, but I feel bad for restaurant servers.
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April 6th, 2012, 09:05 PM
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Ethically no. But waitresses get paid crap so if someone left a stolen $12,000 for a tip I would say let the waitress keep it. I guess that's not fair to the person from whom it was stolen, but I feel bad for restaurant servers.
during the tip debate from a few years back I was surprised to hear how it works in a lot of places for servers! Where I'm from they make minimum wage ($9.65 an hour).... I think it's almost criminal to pay them as little as they do in a lot of places!
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during the tip debate from a few years back I was surprised to hear how it works in a lot of places for servers! Where I'm from they make minimum wage ($9.65 an hour).... I think it's almost criminal to pay them as little as they do in a lot of places!
The Kentucky minimum wage for tipped employees is $2.13 per hour, the same as the federal minimum wage for tipped employees. The Kentucky tipped wage applies to employees like waitresses, waiters, bartenders, valets, and other service employees who earn more then $30 in tips a month.
Including tips and cash wages, all tipped employees must still earn at least the Kentucky Minimum Wage of $7.25 per hour. If a Kentucky employee does not earn at least $7.25 including tips in any given hour of work, their employer must make up the difference in cash.


Kentucky Tipped Wage Example:
Amy works in Kentucky as a waitress, and earns over $30 in tips a month. This hour, Amy earned $3.50 in tips. Her employer must pay her a cash wage of at least $3.75, to bring her total earnings for the hour up to the Kentucky minimum wage of $7.25. Annette, who also works as a waitress, earned $10.50 in tips this hour. Because she is already earning at least the minimum wage, her employer can pay her the Kentucky tipped minimum wage of $2.13 for this hour.

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The Kentucky minimum wage for tipped employees is $2.13 per hour, the same as the federal minimum wage for tipped employees. The Kentucky tipped wage applies to employees like waitresses, waiters, bartenders, valets, and other service employees who earn more then $30 in tips a month.
Including tips and cash wages, all tipped employees must still earn at least the Kentucky Minimum Wage of $7.25 per hour. If a Kentucky employee does not earn at least $7.25 including tips in any given hour of work, their employer must make up the difference in cash.


Kentucky Tipped Wage Example:
Amy works in Kentucky as a waitress, and earns over $30 in tips a month. This hour, Amy earned $3.50 in tips. Her employer must pay her a cash wage of at least $3.75, to bring her total earnings for the hour up to the Kentucky minimum wage of $7.25. Annette, who also works as a waitress, earned $10.50 in tips this hour. Because she is already earning at least the minimum wage, her employer can pay her the Kentucky tipped minimum wage of $2.13 for this hour.

Kentucky Tipped Minimum Wage - Waitresses, Waiters, and Tipped Employees
Glad you pointed that out. A lot of people get confused when they hear that waitresses make so little. I was a waitress for 2 years while in college, and never made below min. wage to where my employer had to make up the difference and I didn't work in a busy or high-end restaurant. I believe most waitresses make more than min. wage on most days.

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Well, technically we could make it into a debate.
Should someone tipped or gifted a large sum of money that is gained through illegal means be allowed to keep that money?
What if it was money stolen in a robbery?
What if there is no doubt who the rightful owners are?
Not debating the moral thing to do, but would the receiver of the money be able to keep it?
I don't really know how to answer any of these definitively. I would like to thank that the person receiving the money could keep it and then a Crime Victims Fund would repay the money to the rightful owner, but I know that's not always possible. I think most money is not easily traceable (like in this case), so I'd say the waitress should get to keep it in those circumstances.
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The Kentucky minimum wage for tipped employees is $2.13 per hour, the same as the federal minimum wage for tipped employees. The Kentucky tipped wage applies to employees like waitresses, waiters, bartenders, valets, and other service employees who earn more then $30 in tips a month.
Including tips and cash wages, all tipped employees must still earn at least the Kentucky Minimum Wage of $7.25 per hour. If a Kentucky employee does not earn at least $7.25 including tips in any given hour of work, their employer must make up the difference in cash.


Kentucky Tipped Wage Example:
Amy works in Kentucky as a waitress, and earns over $30 in tips a month. This hour, Amy earned $3.50 in tips. Her employer must pay her a cash wage of at least $3.75, to bring her total earnings for the hour up to the Kentucky minimum wage of $7.25. Annette, who also works as a waitress, earned $10.50 in tips this hour. Because she is already earning at least the minimum wage, her employer can pay her the Kentucky tipped minimum wage of $2.13 for this hour.

Kentucky Tipped Minimum Wage - Waitresses, Waiters, and Tipped Employees
I lived IN Kentucky. I'm not FROM Kentucky. I'm Canadian, From Nova Scotia where Waitress's earn Minimum wage PLUS tips. The only difference is you do not get your own tips, it's pooled and the kitchen staff is given a take.


So, to me, what they CAN be paid down here per hour is criminal when you look at how it works where I'm from. My ex roommate made an additional $25-$75 a shift in tips in addition to her $80 in wages.
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I lived IN Kentucky. I'm not FROM Kentucky. I'm Canadian, From Nova Scotia where Waitress's earn Minimum wage PLUS tips. The only difference is you do not get your own tips, it's pooled and the kitchen staff is given a take.


So, to me, what they CAN be paid down here per hour is criminal when you look at how it works where I'm from. My ex roommate made an additional $25-$75 a shift in tips in addition to her $80 in wages.
The way tips are divided varies from place to place here. The place Iworked you just kept your own tips, but many places do the divide equally thing (which I think is BS).
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There would be no way I could keep that much money as I tip, I think. That's an awful amount of money.

But, I'm glad she got to keep it. Good for her for being honest.
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