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April 16th, 2012, 07:50 PM
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Should there be a GA program that gives out diapers to low income families? Would cloth diapers be a better option to give out to families who had their own washer?
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April 17th, 2012, 12:42 AM
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I'm not so sure on my stance as to whether or not there should be a program that provides diapers. I'll have to think on that some more before I share my thoughts.

But I can say that IF such a program existed and the participants had access to a washer and dryer, cloth diapers would be the better option over disposable. Likely, the less expensive option, at that.
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April 17th, 2012, 05:48 AM
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Would they have to return the cloth diapers when their children were done using them? I realize that cloth is cheaper in the long run (usually) but it can be several hundred dollars PER family to start up.

There is a petition going around on FB for WIC to provide cloth diapers. Not sure how often Wic logs into their facebook though lol
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April 17th, 2012, 05:58 AM
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I could get behind a cloth diaper loaner program where the family borrows prefolds and covers and then returns them when they are done. I say prefolds because they last forever and are quite easy to clean, even in a laundromat.
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April 17th, 2012, 06:06 AM
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I can see where it would help the general health and cleanliness of some low income babies. A lot of families on a tight budget will stretch out the time a child is in a diaper when they really should be changed.

Unless they have their own washing machine doing cloth isn't going to help, because of the cost to wash them in pay machines. Even $2.00 a load to wash (assuming hang dry in most places) will cause the same problem since you can purchase around 15 diapers for $2.00 (store brands).
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April 17th, 2012, 06:30 AM
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I honestly don't know. I can see how it would help but I also see how it would be a waste of tax payer money. I would have to see how the program would be run to say if I could stand behind it or not.
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April 17th, 2012, 07:04 AM
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This is my initial reaction to a proposal like this, but my opinion is by no means steadfast. I think its easy to keep having kids if you know you don't have to pay for them. There are already programs in place for food assistance, cash assistance, rent assistance, etc. I think adding in a program in where diapers are now provided as well will just encourage people to continue having kids they know they can't afford. I think leaving some of the financial burden on the parents is important because it doesn't encourage them to have another baby (or more). And yes, I realize that most people are responsible on assistance but its the minority of those who are on assistance and abuse it that stick in my mind. Growing up where I did and knowing the amount of children that girls my age had (and couldn't afford) really has stuck with me for many years. I know girls 2 - 3 years younger than I am who have 4 or 5 kids and there is just no way they are paying for all those kids themselves. I am a big supporter of government assistance but I'm also a big supporter of time limits on that assistance. If a program like this were to be put in place, I would like to see limitations like you get 3 years of diapers for 1 child and only 1 child within say a 10 year time frame. Maybe that is harsh, but again, I'm a big fan of people paying for their own kids and living within their own means. I can only have enough children that I can pay for because we don't qualify for assistance and I think that is how everyone should be (in an ideal world). I would love to have another baby but knowing that a new baby could potentially put a large financial strain on our family isn't worth it. Now, if I knew that having another baby would give us a whole bunch of government freebies, I might have another one... just human nature, right?
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April 17th, 2012, 08:54 AM
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This is my initial reaction to a proposal like this, but my opinion is by no means steadfast. I think its easy to keep having kids if you know you don't have to pay for them. There are already programs in place for food assistance, cash assistance, rent assistance, etc. I think adding in a program in where diapers are now provided as well will just encourage people to continue having kids they know they can't afford. I think leaving some of the financial burden on the parents is important because it doesn't encourage them to have another baby (or more). And yes, I realize that most people are responsible on assistance but its the minority of those who are on assistance and abuse it that stick in my mind. Growing up where I did and knowing the amount of children that girls my age had (and couldn't afford) really has stuck with me for many years. I know girls 2 - 3 years younger than I am who have 4 or 5 kids and there is just no way they are paying for all those kids themselves. I am a big supporter of government assistance but I'm also a big supporter of time limits on that assistance. If a program like this were to be put in place, I would like to see limitations like you get 3 years of diapers for 1 child and only 1 child within say a 10 year time frame. Maybe that is harsh, but again, I'm a big fan of people paying for their own kids and living within their own means. I can only have enough children that I can pay for because we don't qualify for assistance and I think that is how everyone should be (in an ideal world). I would love to have another baby but knowing that a new baby could potentially put a large financial strain on our family isn't worth it. Now, if I knew that having another baby would give us a whole bunch of government freebies, I might have another one... just human nature, right?

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April 17th, 2012, 08:57 AM
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Oh wow I didn't know this was being proposed to WIC. Interesting.

I think providing diapers for those truly in need would be good. Diapers are a need for most (unless they EC or something). A cloth diaper program would be nice for those who have a washer and drier, or maybe even a cloth diaper service for people in need (where they'd come and get the diapers and wash them and then bring them new ones and they are always in cycle). That would probably be more towards a small group doing it though and not Government based.
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April 17th, 2012, 10:07 AM
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http://www.change.org/petitions/wic-...-cloth-diapers
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April 17th, 2012, 10:16 AM
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WIC is a nutritional program provided via the Dept of Agriculture. It isn't an entitlement program like food stamps. Why would WIC provide diapers?
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April 17th, 2012, 10:19 AM
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My thought is that since WIC promotes breastfeeding so much and that is 'natural' that they would be the most likely to promote cloth diapers too? I dunno, I didn't make the petition... plus how far do those things really go?
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April 17th, 2012, 10:35 AM
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Hmmm. I'm not sure what to think about WIC and cloth diapers. WIC is a food program, diapers aren't.
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April 17th, 2012, 11:16 AM
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I'm all for assistance if you really need it, but I'm against providing every need for children when parents have to assume SOME responsibility. Otherwise there wouldn't be an incentive to just have kids you can afford.

I'm so liberal and I still feel this way. Just sayin.
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April 17th, 2012, 11:49 AM
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I'm all for assistance if you really need it, but I'm against providing every need for children when parents have to assume SOME responsibility. Otherwise there wouldn't be an incentive to just have kids you can afford.

I'm so liberal and I still feel this way. Just sayin.

LOL, and I'm totally conservative, but the thought of parents having to choose between diapers or food, or trying to clean out and reuse a disposable diaper, or leaving a dirty diaper on a baby all day long just breaks my heart.

I think it's cool things like this exist:

Cloth-diaper bank aims to make change possible | The Salt Lake Tribune
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April 17th, 2012, 11:50 AM
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I agree with Alicia and Jillian.

At some point, you have to take responsibility of your actions rather than asking the tax payers to do it all.
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April 17th, 2012, 12:07 PM
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LOL, and I'm totally conservative, but the thought of parents having to choose between diapers or food, or trying to clean out and reuse a disposable diaper, or leaving a dirty diaper on a baby all day long just breaks my heart.

I think it's cool things like this exist:

Cloth-diaper bank aims to make change possible | The Salt Lake Tribune
I agree, and I like that woman's program, seems promising.

For some people it's not about not taking responsability. Someone who gets laid off and is out of work for awhile may be making a choice between diapers and food (or diapers and gas to find another job, etc). I'm not talking about anyone who just simply meets the requirement of WIC, but people who are truly in need of a pack of diapers or cloth diapers (if that would be cheaper on the Government or whatever). The thought of a baby sitting in a poopy or pee diaper for longer than recommended to stretch diapers because one cannot afford it must makes me sad.
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April 17th, 2012, 12:20 PM
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With all the assistance programs available out there, I don't believe there is a need for diaper assistance.
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April 17th, 2012, 12:31 PM
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LOL, and I'm totally conservative, but the thought of parents having to choose between diapers or food, or trying to clean out and reuse a disposable diaper, or leaving a dirty diaper on a baby all day long just breaks my heart.

I think it's cool things like this exist:

Cloth-diaper bank aims to make change possible | The Salt Lake Tribune
Breaks my heart too. I have feelings on it, but I just don't think it's right to provide every need to a child and their parents provide little to none. And as it stands now, they don't have to choose. Food is already provided.
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