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April 22nd, 2012, 09:49 AM
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6-year-old allegedly locked in jail cell as part of school field trip | The Sideshow - Yahoo! News



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The Chicago Sun-Times reports that parents at Sunnyside Elementary were told their children would be taking a visit to a library and even signed waivers stating such. The children were instead taken to the local Hillside Police Station, where they were shown guns and ankle bracelet monitors. Stovall says he was then temporarily locked inside a jail cell at the station.

Was it acceptable that the field trip was changed after the parents signed a permission slip for the library without the knowledge of the parents?

Was the field trip appropiate for 6 year olds?
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April 22nd, 2012, 11:10 AM
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I don't have an issue with the field trip itself but I would absolutely not be ok with them switching the field trip with no advanced warning for me as a parent. I expect my children to be appropriately cared for at school and that includes me being aware of where they are. I would not be cool with them changing the location of the trip and me not being aware of it.
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April 22nd, 2012, 11:15 AM
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1- the children should never have been taken anywhere except the library as that is the only place the parents consented to.

2- I really don't have an issue with the kids touring a police department, not even at 6. Same as I have no problem with them touring a fire station or an EMS station. They are essential services, and I think it's important for kids to know how they work. But the kids should never feel scared, should never be made to feel that this is the path they are on for misbehaving etc.
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It was inappropriate to change the location without consent especially considering the vast difference between the two places.

On the matter of whether it is appropriate for 6 year olds, it really depends on the content and intent of the trip to the jail. These are the questions I would have:
Did they come within visible contact of actual inmates?
Was it being used as a scare tactic, as in, "don't do bad things or you'll come here"?
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Was it just a tour where they could see what a jail looks like?

If the 1st answers are yes, then I say inappropriate. If it's the 2nd, I say it's fine.
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April 22nd, 2012, 12:45 PM
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The field trip itself is perfectly acceptable, imo. Including the 6 yr old being temporarily placed in a jail cell(though the article states the boy was mistaken and not actually put IN a cell, no kids were, according to them), letting the kids take a look at ankle bracelets, how inmates are brought in, what happens when...those sort of things. I see nothing at all wrong with a trip like that.

Changing the trip however I am quite certain goes against most school board regulations(and if those are also controlled by local regulations, those too). I'm not really sure if they're actually laws or not(I imagine not, but who knows, lol), but I know the schools here have VERY strict rules when it comes to field trips. Everything has to be spelled out. All permission forms need to be in before the trip date(along with any funds collected, if needed). All forms need to be with the teacher(s) on the trip. All medical forms need to be filled out for each and every trip....etc.

Changing the trip up like that, wouldn't fly here, ever. Much as I dislike these schools, I agree wholeheartedly with how they handle that sort of thing. They've had to cancel field trips before, or postpone/change dates. But they wouldn't just up and replace a trip without consent.
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April 22nd, 2012, 02:10 PM
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Same as the others, id have no issue with the trip itself, however, the parents only consented to the library, so the school really didnt have the right to take them anywhere else.
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April 22nd, 2012, 02:13 PM
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I agree with everyone else, I don't have a problem with a field trip to the local jail as long as its age appropriate.

As far as changing the destination without notifying the parents, I don't like that at all.
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April 22nd, 2012, 04:08 PM
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I would be okay with touring a jail to see what it's like if I was informed and the kids weren't made to be scared in any way. A library and jail are VAST differences, which makes me uneasy in the switch.

Now Lily's school has had to do a last minute switch for a field trip. We were going to go to the zoo and it was drizzling, and they said it would be okay because the kids could get ponchos and it was supposed to stop. Well I was a parent volunteer and so I drive to the zoo, and saw buses get there... never saw Lily's school. It's about half an hour later than she's supposed to be there and I start to panic. I call the other mothers and we can't find them, one person said they heard they were already inside. I was about to seriously panic, I had Lily's lunch, the school had my volunteer ticket, and the zoo is HUGE. I would have no idea where they are and she was supposed to be in my group. Then the rain comes pouring down and they suspend activities at the zoo... further panic. I then get a call from her teacher, they were trying to call everyone to inform them that they moved to the museum across the street. I actually got there before they did because they had to call around and see where they could suddenly take a bunch of kindergarten through 3rd graders at the school. So all was well, but I was panicked to not know where she was right away and they didnt allow the volunteers on the bus.

So all the parents were called but I just wish I was told sooner so I didnt panic when I thought she was inside and I missed her!
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April 22nd, 2012, 04:42 PM
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I agree with the others. Changing the field trip location was wrong and I am pretty sure broke some sort of rule.
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April 22nd, 2012, 04:46 PM
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It's not ok to change locations, even if it wasn't a jail. The parents should have known, they could have rescheduled the trip.

I think it's ok to tour a police department with an attached jail to it. Many 6 year olds want to be police officers when they're older, so I can assume that it would be exciting for several young kids to see the police department. I don't have a problem with them showing them ankle bracletes and things like that.

I do have a problem with scaring kids, so if that was the intent then it's not ok at all. I also have a problem with them putting a 6 year old in a jail cell. That would traumatize my child, he knows what jail is and something like that to a sensative kid would be horrible.
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April 22nd, 2012, 05:11 PM
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If there's a change in plans and the intended destination then the parents need to know. I want to know where my kids are at all times.
But a tour of the jail itself is fine.
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I'm with everyone else as well. Changing the trip without consent is what bothers me, not the trip itself. Leslie also brings some good points, so I truly agree with her entirely.
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The jailhouse is fine. Permission slip: since it wasn't a blanket permission slip to allow transporting of the children "anywhere" for "any reason", I assume parents thought their child was going to the library and nothing that they signed (from what I can tell) indicated that field trip was subject to change.

If a parent signs for a specific event, then the children should be at that event. I could see if decided to go to the library to surprise (my child) and I got there and said child wasn't there (or whole class?) I'd be very worried and frustrated!
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