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May 4th, 2012, 05:28 PM
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Colo. boy, 6, suspended for reciting 'Sexy' lyric - Yahoo! News

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6-year-old boy was suspended from his suburban Denver school for three days after school officials said he told a girl "I'm sexy and I know it," a line from a popular song.

D'Avonte Meadows, a first-grader at Sable Elementary School in Aurora, is accused of sexual harassment and disrupting other students, according to a letter the school district sent to his mother after he was sent home Wednesday.
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Would your thoughts be different if this were a 16 yo singing the song to a classmate? How about an adult in the work place?
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May 4th, 2012, 05:58 PM
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The song is suppose to be funny, atleast that is my impression from it (isn't the guys in the video for it dressed like nerds?), so I wouldn't think this was sexual harrassment no matter the age by singing the song lyric. My DH sings that often...
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I better take the song out of London's head or she'll be suspended from Kindergarten. Actually it's funny, but her best boy friend, Austin, said this to her a couple of months ago. We laughed. People need to get their panties out of a wad. Both of my girls sing that song.
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May 4th, 2012, 06:14 PM
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What a filthy little deviant. Next thing you know he'll be raping other kids right in the lunchroom. That kid is a true menace to society.

















































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May 4th, 2012, 06:59 PM
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I guess they better move the M&M commercial with that song to late night when little kids should be sleeping. Better yet, move it to one of those directv adult channels.
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May 5th, 2012, 12:09 AM
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Yeah, I agree with everyone. I'm trying to think of how "I'm sexy and I know it" would be considered sexual harassment even in an adult work place. I think it needs to be taken in context. A coworker could be singing it in a joking way, and I wouldn't consider it sexual harassment. But if they are giving you a creepy look and doing the wiggle dance, then it would be. The context for sexual harassment for a 6 year old just isn't there.

That being said, I wasn't too thrilled to have my 6 yr old asking me what "sexy" means because he had heard kids singing it at school. As far as he now knows, it means "attractive". Hopefully he doesn't decide to complement his teachers by trying to say they look attractive using his new vocabulary.
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May 5th, 2012, 03:03 AM
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Ummm, sexual harassment? Absolutely not, regardless of age.

That's actually a pretty terrible lesson to be teaching those kids too, if you ask me. That's not a very good representation of harassment at all, much less sexual. They're doing them no favors by calling it that.

I think the song is hilarious. Ds loves to sing it, and sings it all the time. In fact he was up on the wall singing it while I was trying to vacuum the hall. Up on the wall as in, literally climbing the walls, he was up above me dropping things from up by the ceiling just so I'd vacuum them...bored I guess, lol.
This is one of his newest favorite songs to sing. He'll sing it just about everywhere too.
It's better than some of his other favs
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May 5th, 2012, 08:07 AM
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Just think of all the parodies a parent could do with that song!

It's bedtime and you know it.
You're grounded and you know it.
It's time for school and you know it.

It fits with anything. I love it!

Plus I would rather hear that song 50 times in a row nonstop, than listen to "Sorry for Party Rocking" just once. The way they sing that one irritates me to no end.
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May 5th, 2012, 08:33 AM
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It's just the worlds most overused song right now, nothing else to it, just like this one The Black Eyed Peas - I Gotta Feeling - YouTube and every other one hit wonder before it.
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I think this is silly, especially after hearing that M&M's use it in a commercial (we don't have cable right now, and Netflix doesn't make me watch commercials)....
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M&M "Sexy and I Know It" Super Bowl Commercial 2012 - YouTube

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I mean really? That's sexual harassment? It's a darn song. These kids aren't going to know what real sexual harassment is if things like this keep going on. I'd be livid if it were my child being suspended over a song lyric that isn't really horrible. It's been so commercialized now due to the M&M commercial. Guess we better get to signing petitions to get it off the air and sue M&M for sexual harassment via the TV. Morons!
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I read the news today and I sometimes think that eventually we're going to turn into the movie "Idiocracy".
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Parents, parent your children. Then the schools won't feel the need to have such tight, restrictive rules or to make extreme punishments for small things.

All I can say is I don't know the words to that song. I don't know how many times the kid was told to "knock it off" before the teachers had enough. I don't know the child to know if this was an isolated incidence. Rules are rules. Do I agree that he should have "sexual harassment" branded on him? No. He probably doesn't understand sex so how could he harass anyone? But the schools in Denver (and all over CO) are VERY strict with these things. For example: They have a no swear word policy in our schools. That doesn't mean they think kids won't say it, but if someone hears it, there are consequences. First, it's a warning. After 1st warning, its an office referral. 2nd warning, counselor talks to the child. 3rd warning, parents called. If after 3x the kid doesn't feel like listening? SUSPENSION. But he was given many chances to stop the behavior. I didn't see in the article where anyone said how many times they told this kid to knock it off, but hey, if he was being disruptive and ignoring the teachers, the suspension for THAT alone was valid. The title of him being a sexual harasser? not valid.

What I imagine happened is the kid was being a brat, and probably more than just 1 day. I have a feeling that mom knew about this and either didn't act, or if she did, the child didn't listen. He probably went to school and continued to disrupt the other students and after so many warnings, he still didn't stop. After this, he probably got called to the office and talked to by the school counselor. No doubt, he thought his actions were hilarious because all the other kids did too, and still continued to misbehave. After having had enough, the school suspended him. They likely told the mother that he was continuously misbehaving and bothering students. Mother responds by going to media and making it a bigger deal than it was. Don't forget, the school isn't saying anything, so all we have is HER word against theirs even in this very article. The school only defined it's sexual harassment policy (after being prompted) but didn't say that HE was being suspended for THAT exact thing. In fact they noted several times the school could NOT discuss this case.

So, what's the truth? Only mom/kid/school knows. And I have a feeling my "best guess" as notated above, was probably more aligned with what actually happened. I know kids well and these schools here, and how they operate. They usually do not just suspend for a 1x incident and for a song. There is obviously a LOT of the story missing. There usually is....
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Yeah, definitely not sexual harassment, but definitely not a song that his parents should be letting him listen to at his age if he's repeating lyrics. The song is definitely not 6yr old friendly and some kids have no clue what the lyrics mean or anything at this age. Do I think he should have been suspended because of it? No, definitely not, but I don't think it would be right to suspend a 16yr old for it either. I don't see the phrase as sexual harassment though.
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Parents, parent your children. Then the schools won't feel the need to have such tight, restrictive rules or to make extreme punishments for small things.

All I can say is I don't know the words to that song. I don't know how many times the kid was told to "knock it off" before the teachers had enough. I don't know the child to know if this was an isolated incidence. Rules are rules. Do I agree that he should have "sexual harassment" branded on him? No. He probably doesn't understand sex so how could he harass anyone? But the schools in Denver (and all over CO) are VERY strict with these things. For example: They have a no swear word policy in our schools. That doesn't mean they think kids won't say it, but if someone hears it, there are consequences. First, it's a warning. After 1st warning, its an office referral. 2nd warning, counselor talks to the child. 3rd warning, parents called. If after 3x the kid doesn't feel like listening? SUSPENSION. But he was given many chances to stop the behavior. I didn't see in the article where anyone said how many times they told this kid to knock it off, but hey, if he was being disruptive and ignoring the teachers, the suspension for THAT alone was valid. The title of him being a sexual harasser? not valid.

What I imagine happened is the kid was being a brat, and probably more than just 1 day. I have a feeling that mom knew about this and either didn't act, or if she did, the child didn't listen. He probably went to school and continued to disrupt the other students and after so many warnings, he still didn't stop. After this, he probably got called to the office and talked to by the school counselor. No doubt, he thought his actions were hilarious because all the other kids did too, and still continued to misbehave. After having had enough, the school suspended him. They likely told the mother that he was continuously misbehaving and bothering students. Mother responds by going to media and making it a bigger deal than it was. Don't forget, the school isn't saying anything, so all we have is HER word against theirs even in this very article. The school only defined it's sexual harassment policy (after being prompted) but didn't say that HE was being suspended for THAT exact thing. In fact they noted several times the school could NOT discuss this case.

So, what's the truth? Only mom/kid/school knows.
And I have a feeling my "best guess" as notated above, was probably more aligned with what actually happened. I know kids well and these schools here, and how they operate. They usually do not just suspend for a 1x incident and for a song. There is obviously a LOT of the story missing. There usually is....
D'Avonte Meadows suspended for sexual harassment | ksdk.com
The mom was given paper work stating what he was being suspended for. The paperwork states "Charge: C60 -harassment-sexual", not disruptive behavior. And on the paper work it notes this is the second time he had quoted the same line from the song. In the video, they say the first episode was 1 mo prior. They do mention he had past trouble with disruptive behavior and is a special needs kid. But if the are mad about his disruptive behavior then they should address it as such and not label it sexual harassment.
I don't blame the mom for going to the media; although I wouldn't let the media interview my kid and ask him to repeat the quote for the cameras. IMO he should be just left out of it entirely.




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Plenty of people parent their kids with a school still "stepping in" or over stepping I normally think. The kid is 6 and special needs...
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D'Avonte Meadows suspended for sexual harassment | ksdk.com
The mom was given paper work stating what he was being suspended for. The paperwork states "Charge: C60 -harassment-sexual", not disruptive behavior. And on the paper work it notes this is the second time he had quoted the same line from the song. In the video, they say the first episode was 1 mo prior. They do mention he had past trouble with disruptive behavior and is a special needs kid. But if the are made about his disruptive behavior then they should address it as such and not label it sexual harassment.
I don't blame the mom for going to the media; although I wouldn't let the media interview my kid and ask him to repeat the quote for the cameras. IMO he should be just left out of it entirely.
It still baffles me that quoting a line from a song, at six, can get you suspended for sexual harassment. I wonder if he was doing the dance that the lil M&M guy is doing... I could see doing that, to a little girl after being told not to as needing to be addressed.. but not as sexual harassment, more inappropriate behavior than anything.

But I know that my special needs step son would not understand that singing a song that he hears on tv during his cartoons is wrong, not after one warning a month prior. He'd have long forgotten the incident.

I quite enjoyed this line from one article:
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"Sometimes when you go to a zero-tolerance policy, you end up with a zero-sense policy,"
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Just because the child sings a song with the word "sexy" in it and has had some behavioral issue in the past does not mean his parents don't parent or that he is a brat. Its the easy excuse for others on the outside who know virtually nothing but a few paragraphs about this child's life to make though.
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Parents, parent your children. Then the schools won't feel the need to have such tight, restrictive rules or to make extreme punishments for small things.

All I can say is I don't know the words to that song. I don't know how many times the kid was told to "knock it off" before the teachers had enough. I don't know the child to know if this was an isolated incidence. Rules are rules. Do I agree that he should have "sexual harassment" branded on him? No. He probably doesn't understand sex so how could he harass anyone? But the schools in Denver (and all over CO) are VERY strict with these things. For example: They have a no swear word policy in our schools. That doesn't mean they think kids won't say it, but if someone hears it, there are consequences. First, it's a warning. After 1st warning, its an office referral. 2nd warning, counselor talks to the child. 3rd warning, parents called. If after 3x the kid doesn't feel like listening? SUSPENSION. But he was given many chances to stop the behavior. I didn't see in the article where anyone said how many times they told this kid to knock it off, but hey, if he was being disruptive and ignoring the teachers, the suspension for THAT alone was valid. The title of him being a sexual harasser? not valid.

What I imagine happened is the kid was being a brat, and probably more than just 1 day. I have a feeling that mom knew about this and either didn't act, or if she did, the child didn't listen. He probably went to school and continued to disrupt the other students and after so many warnings, he still didn't stop. After this, he probably got called to the office and talked to by the school counselor. No doubt, he thought his actions were hilarious because all the other kids did too, and still continued to misbehave. After having had enough, the school suspended him. They likely told the mother that he was continuously misbehaving and bothering students. Mother responds by going to media and making it a bigger deal than it was. Don't forget, the school isn't saying anything, so all we have is HER word against theirs even in this very article. The school only defined it's sexual harassment policy (after being prompted) but didn't say that HE was being suspended for THAT exact thing. In fact they noted several times the school could NOT discuss this case.

So, what's the truth? Only mom/kid/school knows. And I have a feeling my "best guess" as notated above, was probably more aligned with what actually happened. I know kids well and these schools here, and how they operate. They usually do not just suspend for a 1x incident and for a song. There is obviously a LOT of the story missing. There usually is....
This has me cracking up. I know kids because I have some and used to babysit, and I know schools because well, I used to go to one and so do my kids. Therefore, I have a strong sense that my theory is right, though I really know very little about this actual situation or the kid involved. But, hey, I know kids so this is probably what happened.
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