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May 29th, 2012, 12:54 PM
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For the past month or so, there's been quite a debate about spanking on a site I blog on.

The debate of course depicts where or not spanking is an effective form of punishment, and why it should be considered abuse. The latest debate that popped up is that spanking lowers IQ levels. Spanking can also cause long term harm and even encourage children to lie and cheat.

Here is the original article about the study : Spanking kids can cause long-term harm: Canada study | Reuters

"What people have realized is that physical punishment doesn't only predict aggression consistently, it also predicts internalizing kinds of difficulties, like depression and substance use," is one of the points pondered in this study.

"There are no studies that show any long term positive outcomes from physical punishment." is another one mentioned, but I'm not sure if I agree with this one.

Study Reveals Who Gets Spanked | LiveScience this other study depicts who actually gets spanked, such as people in southern rural areas as mentioned.

However, this article studies the opposite, to where corporal punishment IS effective.

http://reynaert.nl/storage/examencd/...e/hen01it3.pdf

Could I get any other view points on from the moms on here? Do you agree with these studies?
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May 29th, 2012, 01:12 PM
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nevermind,,,read it wrong be back later to read the studies
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May 30th, 2012, 10:34 AM
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I don't believe spanking lowers IQ, or leads to drug use etc etc. I have a really hard time when people are lumped into one category and all tested the same way. The one article says that people in the south, and African Americans AND protestants spank their kids more than other groups. Who's to say that these people don't have a lower IQ anyway?

I also don't see how educational toys and a house full of books decreases spanking. "Little Johnny, you were bad... go read a book and think about your behavior!"
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I also don't see how educational toys and a house full of books decreases spanking.
I got very confused by that, to me that's like saying, "We have an apple tree in our backyard therefore we are less likely to be late for school"
It's irrelevant. Buying your child books does not reflect on your type of discipline.
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May 30th, 2012, 01:50 PM
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I don't believe spanking lowers IQ, or leads to drug use etc etc. I have a really hard time when people are lumped into one category and all tested the same way. The one article says that people in the south, and African Americans AND protestants spank their kids more than other groups. Who's to say that these people don't have a lower IQ anyway?

I also don't see how educational toys and a house full of books decreases spanking. "Little Johnny, you were bad... go read a book and think about your behavior!"
If my punishment had been to go read a book, I'd have acted up more often. lol.

And while I think spanking should be a last resort, rather than the first thing you do, sort of thing. Unless you're beating the child, I don't see it as abuse and I just can't see how on earth it'd lower IQ levels unless you were spanking their head and causing a brain injury.
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I used to be pro-spanking, but we don't anymore. Something someone said on here really didn't sit well with me, and I started to re-evaluate my stance. They pointed out that if one adult hits another adult, it's assault, even if it's for a good reason. But, if we hit our child, it's called discipline. My inmates have been a freakin' nightmare lately, with way more fights than normal. So, we've been paying extra attention to Anger Management. I can't very well preach to them about keeping their hands off others while not doing the same in my own life. Well, I could, but I wouldn't be teaching it with conviction.
That being said, correlation does not equal causation. I think there are a lot of other factors that play into IQ levels.
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May 30th, 2012, 04:52 PM
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I definitely don't think spanking, on it's own, can lower an IQ. Though I do not believe for one moment it doesn't have any effect.

That's probably all anyone wants me to say on the matter. I have pretty strong convictions, and opinions about spanking, generally speaking.
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No, I don't believe that spanking lowers IQ but it some situations it can be a contributing factor.
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I don't think it can lower IQ - IQ is your natural ability so unless like Ashley said, you're hitting them in the head and doing brain damage, it can't lower IQ. However, I could see how it could lower self esteem, cause children to shut down which could cause low scores on IQ tests - just because the kids don't try not because it affected their intelligence.
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