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June 11th, 2012, 04:49 PM
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The man - whose name has not been released to protect his daughter -
allegedly beat the attacker over the head when he pulled him off his child after
discovering them in a barn in Lavaca County, Texas.
According to this story, the father has not been charged with anything at this time. Do you think he should be charged?
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Sheriff: Father kills man sexually abusing his daughter - CNN.com
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The father returned to the house,
caught the man in the act, and stopped him by striking him in the head several
times, Harmon said.

The man was pronounced dead on
the scene, while the daughter was taken to a local hospital in Victoria, Texas,
for examinations before being released.
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Asked whether they would press
charges against the father, the sheriff responded, "You have a right to defend
your daughter. He acted in defense of his third person. Once the investigation
is completed we will submit it to the district attorney who then submits it to
the grand jury, who will decide if they will indict him."

Harmon described the dad as
"very remorseful," adding that he didn't know the man was going to die.
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June 11th, 2012, 05:53 PM
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As much as I want to say that the man deserved everything he got from the father, well murder is still murder. The courts should have been left to handle this. I don't think the father should be punished severely, but I'm not sure that he should be let off either.

Though I can't say that I have any sympathy for the molester.

Also, if the genders were reversed, or if it was his son and not daughter, would the father have acted the same way?

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June 11th, 2012, 05:57 PM
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As much as I want to say that the man deserved everything he got from the father, well murder is still murder. The courts should have been left to handle this. I don't think the father should be punished severely, but I'm not sure that he should be let off either.

Though I can't say that I have any sympathy for the molester.

Also, if the genders were reversed, or if it was his son and not daughter, would the father have acted the same way?
Personally, I DO think he got what he deserved.

To your last question, yes, I think most parents would have had temporary insanity to walk in on an adult(man or woman) molesting their child(male or female).
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June 11th, 2012, 06:02 PM
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He was defending his daughter. I don't think he should be charged with murder.
He might have acted past what he could have, as I'm sure his emotions were fueling the beating, but I think most parents would be hard pressed to have a lot of self control if they walked into a situation where someone was molesting their child.
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June 11th, 2012, 08:17 PM
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Yes, it's murder, but as a parent who wouldn't do that to the molester? He was defending his child, I can't fault the father one bit.
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June 11th, 2012, 08:43 PM
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I cant fault the father at all. I'd do the same thing. I know **** well if someone was molesting my child I'd grab whatever was handy and beat the bloody **** out of them. I would not think "Oh let's just hurt him enough to get him off Lily and then call the police..." No... I'd beat the guy ******* senseless. The same as if someone was molesting my son, I'd beat them senseless. I would not fault anyone that would do the same.
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June 11th, 2012, 09:03 PM
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Do I think he should be charged? no I don't.

Like the cop said, it was defending his child.
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June 12th, 2012, 08:45 AM
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Temporary Insanity. I do not think he should be charged with murder.
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June 12th, 2012, 10:15 AM
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kind of the textbook definition of a "crime" of passion/in the heat of the moment...we don't have details on exactly what type of sexual assault occurred (thankfully), but if the man was actually raping a child that young i think the physical harm alone could potentially kill the child - assuming you didn't think the man might kill the child anyway after the assault - and therefore justify the father's attack on the attacker. Most states recognize a self defense concept that allows a 3rd party to defend someone being attacked up to a similar level necessary to defend them...and it's hard to imagine a TX jury wouldn't be extremely sympathetic to the father given the circumstances - i doubt the grand jury will indict him (and it's a clue that they decided not to charge him directly, but rather throw it to the grand jury anyway).
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June 12th, 2012, 12:12 PM
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I don't see it as much different than if the victim in a similar situation were defending herself--doing whatever she could to stop the molestation. If she grabbed a blunt object and hit him, and it killed him, would she be charged with murder? If she pushed him hard enough for him to knock into something and it killed him, would she be charged with murder? If she were strong enough and did exactly the same kind of beating that the father did, would she be charged with murder?

Honestly, I don't know the answer to this question. But if the answer is no, especially for the latter, then I don't think the father should be charged either.
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June 12th, 2012, 12:22 PM
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I'd have killed the guy too! And honestly I think most guys would have gone MORE balistic if they saw a man raping their son.
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June 12th, 2012, 05:08 PM
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Don't most higher species defend their offspring to the death? So what if we wear clothes, cook with fire and use words, humans still have our basic instincts. We're still animals when it comes to the primal things.
No I do not think he should be charged with anything. I think the dead guy shouldn't have been molesting a child. And now he never will again.
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June 12th, 2012, 08:05 PM
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No I don't think he should be charged. If that were my child I think the rage would blind me to any other thought at that moment other than to protect my child. I'd beat him to death and probably not feel sorry about it either.
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"......allegedly beat the attacker over the head when he pulled him off his child after ...." (doesn't matter the before or after, this is what I'm going by)...

The guy pulled the molester off his kid. I think he was acting in defense of his child, and do not consider this murder. Sorry. I'd have done the same thing, and probably much worse if it were one of my kids being raped. In fact, I'd be very likely to beat down to death anyone raping a child even if not related to me, but I saw it happening. I do not think he should be charged AT ALL.
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June 13th, 2012, 02:40 AM
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I don't believe the father should be charged.

Part of me says that's not a reasonable conclusion though-taking the life of another that is. I'm guessing that part of me is probably teetering on the edge of insanity, so it doesn't get a say.

I commend the father. I don't feel bad for the attacker one little bit. Many people come to the aid of others and in the process someone else gets either seriously hurt, or killed. I consider that a necessary evil. No one really wants to do it, imo, but that doesn't change the fact that sometimes it's just going to happen. Despite the fact that the father was defending his child, his action is something he will have to live with for the rest of his life. For most people, I believe that would be punishment enough. I am quite sure he will relive those moments over and over again until the day he dies. I can't imagine that horror, knowing you took the life out of another-regardless of what that other was doing at the time. It has to leave a tremendous weight on one's shoulders, no matter how strong in your convictions you might be(or think you are), imo.

The fact that this man, despite what that monster was doing to his child, feels remorse and actually sorry for the *******, speaks volumes to me.
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June 13th, 2012, 06:42 PM
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I think this dad has an even better case that he caught the molester in the act than someone who found out and carried out a plan for revenge after the fact. If a jury can hand out a guilty verdict while thinking about what that father saw, then it's an even sadder world than I thought we lived in.

As for whether it was a son or daughter, many dads I know personally would have reacted at least in this way seeing their son being molested if not more violently.
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June 14th, 2012, 12:07 PM
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If I had ever found my little girl in a position like that, well... I'd most likely go blind from the anger myself and end up doing something similar because she is the most precious thing in my life.
Same if I ever have a boy. My kid is my whole life and poor person who ever does something to them.

So in my opinion, don't feel the least bit bad for the molester. You should know that hurting a small child might result very bad, either way.
The fact that the father feels bad about his actions show that he did it in the heat of the moment and would most likely not have killed him if he had the chance to do it again (hurt him badly, I'm sure but not to the point of death)
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June 14th, 2012, 09:46 PM
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The man got what he deserved, plain and simple. If I caught someone doing that to my daughter, I can't even imagine the feelings that would well up inside of me considering I, myself, was raped.
Perhaps that's why I don't feel the man should be charged. I would have done the same if not worse if I were in his shoes.
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June 15th, 2012, 04:28 AM
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Originally Posted by GSLynn;26158490 I'd have done the same thing, and probably much worse if it were one of my kids being raped. [B
In fact, I'd be very likely to beat down to death anyone raping a child even if not related to me[/B], but I saw it happening. I do not think he should be charged AT ALL.
To the bold, I agree. Unlike Coach McQueary in the Sandusky case who saw a boy being raped and walked out the door.
Ex-coach McQueary testifies in Sandusky case - sportsnet.ca
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To the bold, I agree. Unlike Coach McQueary in the Sandusky case who saw a boy being raped and walked out the door.
Ex-coach McQueary testifies in Sandusky case - sportsnet.ca
Good thing my own personal opinion means nothing in a court of law because as far as I'm concerned every adult who knew what was going on then is just as guilty as the monster raping those boys.
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