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June 25th, 2012, 09:13 AM
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And I really want other's takes on it. I really understand that some people really really love their dogs... but to make someone allergic be forced to be sick all time?

a good friend of mine had to make the tough choice recently to get rid of her 4 cats. Her husband brought home a kitten for each miscarriage they had... their LO, is very allergic. A few people think they just should have kept pumping him full of drugs since the cats were there first....


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June 25th, 2012, 09:19 AM
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I think if the animal is causing a human illness or other misery then it needs to go. There are situations when animals are not compatible with the home they are currently in and it's not necessarily someone's fault.
There are ways to work around allergies, but still there's only so much you can do. If it's in the human's best interest to have a cat free house instead of taking tons of allergy meds then that's what you do. Animals don't get seniority for living in a house before kids. Humans come first.

ETA---What does bother me is when people get rid of animals for reasons that were obvious before they go the animal. Like, "we live too close to the road and he runs out there a lot." Um, hello, I'm sure the road was there before you got the dog, genius.
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June 25th, 2012, 10:24 AM
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I agree with the above. If the animal is causing illness/harm/etc then it does need to go. Some people can over come an allergy. My mom use to be allergic to cat dander. Then I brought home a kitten. She sneezed for about a week and then it was gone. She now still has that cat as well as another cat. But not all are like that. If it's not something that can be overcome then the child has to come first and the animal needs to go. I know it's hard, but the children's needs should becoming first.
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June 25th, 2012, 10:46 AM
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I agree with the above. If the animal is causing illness/harm/etc then it does need to go. Some people can over come an allergy. My mom use to be allergic to cat dander. Then I brought home a kitten. She sneezed for about a week and then it was gone. She now still has that cat as well as another cat. But not all are like that. If it's not something that can be overcome then the child has to come first and the animal needs to go. I know it's hard, but the children's needs should becoming first.
I agree.
When my youngest was much smaller, he had frequent colds so the ped. ran a basic allergy screen. The blood test came back with numbers indicating he was highly allergic to cats but he's never really had symptoms unless he was sick. The older he got, the less colds he had and the less allergy/athsma like symptoms. We kept the cats and my son. We would have rehomed the cats if we felt we needed to though.
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June 25th, 2012, 11:11 AM
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I agree that there are valid reasons to re-home a pet & I even had to do it once. My ex got a dog right before we separated. When I kicked him out, he wouldn't take the dog with him. The dog didn't get along with my other dog & was too much for me to handle as a single working mom. So I had to give him back to the breeder. It was very hard.

But having done dog rescue for many years, I really struggle with people who say things like "he sheds too much" , "he's ruining our grass", I'm having a baby & don't have the time anymore, etc. Dogs shed ---duh! and those that don't require tons of grooming. Dogs pee on your lawn DUHHHH! And when you have your 2nd child will you give up the 1st because you no longer have time for it?
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June 25th, 2012, 11:28 AM
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I have a brand new baby and two dogs. Yes my dogs got banished to the back yard for a few months while I was trying to adjust. They're able to be back in the house now and they love the baby and the baby is highly entertained by them. It all worked out and I didn't have to give anyone up. It can definitely be done. (They shed and are ruining my grass too, but oh well!)
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June 25th, 2012, 11:30 AM
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No, not all behavioral issues can be fixed.

I'm not a dog person to start out with, so if my dog ever bit a child I'm not going to take time to 'work through' behavioral issues, I'd just volunteer to put it down. The only reason we have the dogs we have now is because they're both ancient, and I knew they would die for no reason if they went to the humane society. I give Katie like 2 more years max... ANYWAY we had to re-home my baby Edge, who was a lilac point siamese when Sebastian was born. Once baby was born he started peeing everywhere baby's furniture was. Not on it, just near it. Under the bassinet, swing, where ever his car seat sat etc. I gave him away for free to a lady who had lots of dogs and was older so prooobably no chance for him to be jealous of a baby again. I contemplated getting rid of the baby

There was also another lady I know from JM whose dog bit her son several times, the straw was when he bit him near his eye. Turns out the dog had a tumor. Not everything can be fixed. It doesn't really bother me when people re-home their animals.
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I had 3 Rottweilers in my very small house when I brought my preemie dd home from the hospital. The dogs were well trained before baby so we had absolutely no issues. It definitely can be done.
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June 25th, 2012, 02:59 PM
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It can be done. However...
We have 4 dogs (and a cat), including a super high energy lab. I often worry that I wont be able to meet the needs of my lab, and may have to find a more suitable home for her.
Letting her go to someone who will exercise her body and mind would be a less selfish act to keeping her locked up in her crate with only potty breaks, and her constantly being scolded because she can't contain herself and acts up.

As for allergies, if my child developed allergies, steps will be taken to ensure all pets, kids and adults are happy and healthy. If that's mean rehoming the pets, then that's what will happen. Why would I allow my child to physically suffer, and potentially cause long term health issues just to appease some stranger who thinks I should keep my dog or cat.
There are of course things that can be done to reduce pet dander, and the like. And rehoming will only be a last ditch, tried other things first option.

I'm allergic to things with fur and feathers. When I was old enough to form opinions, I voiced that I was fine dealing with the sniffles and itchy eyes. The cats stayed.
An infant or toddler can't say they are ok with the reactions they have. And I would never force my baby to be Sick because im selfish or some stranger wants to be a stick in the mud.

I'd find a suitable home for any pets and definitely wouldn't take them to a shelter or put them down.
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June 25th, 2012, 04:40 PM
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There can be very legit reasons to re-home a pet. Causing allergies, illness, or other harm are perfectly fine examples. I have two cat that were adopted from the aspca, I also have allergies to cats but I deal cause I'm an adult. If it were my kids instead, then we would have never adopted or we would re-home them. Now that I'm about to have a baby in the house I'm a bit nervous about one of the cats. If I feel that she will become a danger to my son, she will be re-homed. I love her to death but I love my child more.
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June 25th, 2012, 06:34 PM
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We don't have any pets but obviously I would get rid of the kid before the fish. Duh.
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July 4th, 2012, 10:02 PM
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I used to be someone that agreed with the original post. Then I had my son and I would of course choose him over an animal. I dont judge anyone for rehoming their pet because Im sure its not something done lightly. Most of the time, the dog is better off in their new home.
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July 4th, 2012, 10:55 PM
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I read the post above as rhetorical and not literal.

It seems as if the person is making a point that people post craigslist or other ads for rehoming their pet, similar to the one she posted. I actually have seen these ads.

Most people, who have children allergic to pets, are very understood and usually charge a certain amount to make sure that the animal goes to a decent home.

But others, post vague descriptions of their pet and exaggerate their problems with such pet. Then they use the old "I'll take him to the humane society and put him to sleep" kind of as a ploy to tug at heart strings. They almost always leave out behavioral issues. Who wants a dog that bites, right?

I do not believe the originator of the chain post thing actually felt as though people should NEVER rehome their pet. But they're advocating for people to think FIRST then buy. Some people get rid of pets because they can't train them. Or worse, they IGNORE the pets and neglect or abuse them, and thus cause dog's or other pet's aggression. So, that's all I'm seeing in the post.
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I read the post above as rhetorical and not literal.

It seems as if the person is making a point that people post craigslist or other ads for rehoming their pet, similar to the one she posted. I actually have seen these ads.

Most people, who have children allergic to pets, are very understood and usually charge a certain amount to make sure that the animal goes to a decent home.

But others, post vague descriptions of their pet and exaggerate their problems with such pet. Then they use the old "I'll take him to the humane society and put him to sleep" kind of as a ploy to tug at heart strings. They almost always leave out behavioral issues. Who wants a dog that bites, right?

I do not believe the originator of the chain post thing actually felt as though people should NEVER rehome their pet. But they're advocating for people to think FIRST then buy. Some people get rid of pets because they can't train them. Or worse, they IGNORE the pets and neglect or abuse them, and thus cause dog's or other pet's aggression. So, that's all I'm seeing in the post.
The person Who posted it on my FB DOES believe that a pet is a family member and should stay regardless of the issue. The comments on the photo from the person from whom she had shared it, felt that people who rehome pets due to "trivial issues" are horrible people. Whether they were the originator I have no idea.. but these people do exist and the message is being spread to say "if you get rid of your pets because of issues with your kids you're a bad person" since if you got rid of your kid for your pet you'd be a bad person.
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Posts like these kind of anger me to be honest. It's people with no children who I find are always the worst. Of course you couldn't imagine re-homing your pet over your child when you don't understand the love a parent has for a child.

I considered re-homing my Husky at one point. She thought DD was a toy, and would paw her and scratch her. My in-laws at the time, took the time to write a 4 page email ripping me to shreds about how I was going to re-home the dog. She was even so bold as to put "When your daughter hits her teenage years and you start having problems with her are you going to find her a new home too?" How DARE you put my kid and dog in the same category! The only reason I was considering re-homing her was because she had scratched my daughter's eye, and I'm just not willing to put my baby at risk.
Kids come first. End of story. As long as you're re-homing the pet in a responsible manner, and are making sure the pet goes to a good home, then there's nothing wrong with it.

We ended up working things out with our Husky, and still have her, and I LOVE her, but I will always put my daughter first. Whether it's behavorial issues with the dog or allergies. Nothing comes before my daughter.
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My dog is so very important to me. But I would re-home him in a heartbeat if I found out my girls were allergic, or he got old and bit, etc. Humans come before animals, as long as it is done humanely.
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I unexpectedly got pregnant with twins (very unplanned). I had 2 cats. I also became a single mother to them, as well as my 6yr old the second I peed on the test. I thought that I could handle them all, but even cats can sometimes feel like children.

When the twins were 3 months old I had to make the hard choice to give up the cats because I just couldn't handle the 3 kids and 2 cats. There was just too much to do, and just one of me.

Well, do I still get sad that they are gone, yes. However, I know it was the best decision for my family because I can now be a little less stress and guilt ridden knowing that the cats are in a better home and can be loved, and that my kids don;t have an overwhelmed mother (well, I still am, but it is a healthier level lol).
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We have a very active pitbull, who loves playing with kids. The problem is, his playing is much rougher than their version. (He likes to play with his teeth, he doesn't bite, but he'll wrap his mouth around any available body part)
That being said, our current plan is to try and keep him uninterested in the baby, so that he'll basically just ignore it until it's old enough to play/get away.
If we need to keep him away from the baby for the first few months, then that's how it will be.

Now, if baby turns out to be allergic to him, we'll do what's best for the baby. But we will try training for any issues that come up, as far as biting or whatnot. (He still snaps at faces, which we're working on.)


I would never "discard" any animal to a shelter, just because we can't keep him. I'd make sure they went to a good home or a no kill shelter. I don't fault people who have given their dogs to shelters, (I used to work at one, and it was always SO sad when people had to give up their animals..) it's just not for me.
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We have a very active pitbull, who loves playing with kids. The problem is, his playing is much rougher than their version. (He likes to play with his teeth, he doesn't bite, but he'll wrap his mouth around any available body part)
That being said, our current plan is to try and keep him uninterested in the baby, so that he'll basically just ignore it until it's old enough to play/get away.
If we need to keep him away from the baby for the first few months, then that's how it will be.

Now, if baby turns out to be allergic to him, we'll do what's best for the baby. But we will try training for any issues that come up, as far as biting or whatnot. (He still snaps at faces, which we're working on.)


I would never "discard" any animal to a shelter, just because we can't keep him. I'd make sure they went to a good home or a no kill shelter. I don't fault people who have given their dogs to shelters, (I used to work at one, and it was always SO sad when people had to give up their animals..) it's just not for me.
You're entire post is baffling. The dog snaps at faces, doesn't bite but wraps his teeth around objects and body parts, but you will somehow talk and reason with him so he will be uninterested with the baby. OK.
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