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The hospital my aunt had her girls at does NOT provide formula or soothers to the infants. They keep the glass water bottles for parents to mix with formula brought in. They don't even keep nipples except for preemie ones. It is advised to you during prenatal care that if you do not bring formula you are assumed to breastfeed. It isn't the hospitals job to find a formula that your baby likes...it is the parents. They of course have formula on hand but you will only get a few bottles worth overnight and are expected to have a can brought from home or one delivered from the hospital pharmacy.

I think that's the way it should be. Especially in a uhc environment unless it falls under medical need. If you wish to ff then bring it with you. This day in age you can get dozens of samples in the mail no problem to have a variety to try and one of the local grocery chains has sample cans of every brand for $1.99 that makes 5 bottles.
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The hospital my aunt had her girls at does NOT provide formula or soothers to the infants. They keep the glass water bottles for parents to mix with formula brought in. They don't even keep nipples except for preemie ones. It is advised to you during prenatal care that if you do not bring formula you are assumed to breastfeed. It isn't the hospitals job to find a formula that your baby likes...it is the parents. They of course have formula on hand but you will only get a few bottles worth overnight and are expected to have a can brought from home or one delivered from the hospital pharmacy.

I think that's the way it should be. Especially in a uhc environment unless it falls under medical need. If you wish to ff then bring it with you. This day in age you can get dozens of samples in the mail no problem to have a variety to try and one of the local grocery chains has sample cans of every brand for $1.99 that makes 5 bottles.
This makes no sense to me at all. Why on Earth are you expected to bring in formula for your own child? Do they require all other people to supply their own food for their hospital stay as well? I know each time I have been in the hospital, the hospital supplied all of my meals. Why would it be any different with formula for babies? They only provide nipples to the premie babies? Would you ever think it was acceptable to have to bring your own fork or plate to the hospital?
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I'm gonna ditto that statement there ^

That's anal retentive if ever I've heard it.
My guess is that's not actually the hospital's entire policy, because it would be an assinine one. Anyone who has ever FF a baby(hell even people who haven't) will likely know that not all babies tolerate all formulas. Formula is really not cheap, not that anything with raising a baby necessarily is. So telling parents "oh, just buy one of everything and we'll see how it goes" is stupid. A "sample" won't likely be enough for a tolerance test, unless it's a really severe intolerance. I don't know of ANY stores around here that sell "sample" cans, or anywhere for that matter. You're the first person I've ever seen say that there is a store that sells it near you, actually.

Not everyone does get fifty million samples in the mail, either. The fact that it's possible doesn't necessarily make it a reality. Many things are possible, that doesn't always make them probable. Hell there are thousands of legally blind people the world over with licenses-but it's impossible for me to get one, go figure. When I was pregnant with dd2 I got samples out the yin yang, of everything both baby related and not. Two years later when I was pregnant with ds, I didn't get squat(until that bag I got in the hospital after delivering him), despite signing up for everything under the sun. Even though I intended to pump exclusively no matter what. I did this because the formula and other samples I got when I was pregnant with dd2 I was able to give to people that actually needed it. It's somewhat sad I was actually looking forward to that again, I suppose, but I digress. I didn't get a lick of formula samples from anyone, anywhere, the entire time I was pregnant, and even his first year of life. He's nearly 9 now and in the last year I've gotten 12 formula samples, bottles, baby food samples, a couple pacifiers, hundreds of coupons, butt cream samples, I've won a couple baby contests(not entering them mind you, I do not have babies), free diapers, diaper samples, wipe samples....you get the picture. You name it, I've gotten it. I don't know why, other than the obvious third party thing. Because I do get samples from companies for other things(I like gathering these things and donating them to parents stuck at the children's hospital, who are lacking even some basic essentials, hence why I sign up).

Now the samples I get for babies, I just give to my sister, or keep for when my niece is here. Like the similac bottle I got a couple weeks ago. I still don't know why, and frankly, don't care. She likes the bottle though, I have to admit. I'm not someone who cares about advertising being on things I use, so it's not really a problem for me. If they want to waste their money sending stuff to someone, like me, who really isn't a customer, then by all means go for it. I'll make sure what they send gets used, if not by me, then someone else.
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Thank you ladies. I'm in love with this lil one.

Back to the topic at hand. I would be broke if I had to buy my own formulas to try on my kids from birth at the hospital. So far this new one is the only one who has been thriving off of my bm. Normally, I've had to run through different formulas until I found the right one. Not only is that costly, but it's very stressful on both mom and baby. Just imagine being given different types and brands of formula constantly that will only end up upsetting your belly meanwhile you're hungry as heck. It's not pretty. It takes time, money, and energy to find the right kind when you have a child that cannot tolerate regular milk based formula. Not to mention the heartache a mom goes through seeing their child suffer from something as simple as drinking a bottle.

As it was already mentioned, sample size cans are not enough to determine if that particular formula works well for baby. It can be days before you notice your infant isn't tolerating it properly. Now, I'm not saying that hospitals should have all types on hand and just let you try it out. Like I said one feeding or one sample isn't really enough to make a determination. But if they at least offer you the regular milk based stuff, you might have enough time before going home to determine if it will work for your baby. With Ethan, he forced me to keep on going with bf. Not only would he not drink the enfimal ready made bottle, but he would quickly spit it up. Now, had I not already had experience in this department with my first two kids, I wouldn't have know that this is him showing me he can't handle that stuff like my other two couldn't. With my first we went through about 3 different types before we figured out that soy is what worked for her. With Kev we went through more types before we figured out that nutramigen is what he needed. I'm hoping that this time around I can avoid trying to figure out which kind Ethan needs.
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I don't think their intentions are to bully them or keep bugging them after a mother says she wants to formula feed. I think the intentions are just like the other hospitals that have banned free formula, which is to not give out formula sample bags, have advertisment of formulas, make sure women are informed on both breastfeeding and formula feeding, and having formula put away rather than out and only reserve it for those who want/need it. I think the media just makes things always seem way more extreme then they really are.
This would be great had they not said that mother would "get a talking to" with every bottle...
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I think it's fine to not give out free formula to mothers unless there is a reason they cannot breastfeed. In that case it should be given to them for free, for their stay. It should be available on site though like in the gift shop or something where patrons can easily buy it.

As for the hospital giving free food to the other patients, unless you can't breastfeed you do have free food. If you don't chose to give your child the food that's on you. If I don't choose to eat the often not so good hospital food they aren't going to just bring me whatever I do want. I have to get someone to buy it and bring it to me.
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This would be great had they not said that mother would "get a talking to" with every bottle...
Or make them state a medical reason for requesting one.

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This makes no sense to me at all. Why on Earth are you expected to bring in formula for your own child? Do they require all other people to supply their own food for their hospital stay as well? I know each time I have been in the hospital, the hospital supplied all of my meals. Why would it be any different with formula for babies? They only provide nipples to the premie babies? Would you ever think it was acceptable to have to bring your own fork or plate to the hospital?
I said they only keep preemie sized nipples in the hospital. I didn't say ONLY preemies get them. They're kept because the area is notorious for very small underweight babies (average birth weight is under 7lbs right now). There are no preemies there. But you cannot find the nipples in stores, they need to be ordered so the hospital keeps them "in case" a child cannot use a regular sized nipple at all.


Why shouldn't you be expected to pay to feed your own child? I don't get that at all. It's not the hospitals job, its YOURS. If you choose not to breast feed, that's your choice and you should be responsible to provide the food.


I did state it's a UHC environment. You've gotten free/tax paid for care all along, the least you can do is provide your own formula and nipples (and those little glass bottles are fantastic, and worth their weight in gold when you're making 2 oz bottles)


And hospital food sucks, if I have to be in one, I will most definitely be having my own food brought in.
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Why shouldn't you be expected to pay to feed your own child? I don't get that at all. It's not the hospitals job, its YOURS. If you choose not to breast feed, that's your choice and you should be responsible to provide the food.

This doesn't make sense to me. That baby is just as much a patient at the hospital as any other person!

So what about babies in the NICU? Parents should have to bring in formula (if that's what is being given) for the entire stay?

Any other person in the hospital gets food provided to them, why shouldn't babies?
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I said they only keep preemie sized nipples in the hospital. I didn't say ONLY preemies get them. They're kept because the area is notorious for very small underweight babies (average birth weight is under 7lbs right now). There are no preemies there. But you cannot find the nipples in stores, they need to be ordered so the hospital keeps them "in case" a child cannot use a regular sized nipple at all.


Why shouldn't you be expected to pay to feed your own child? I don't get that at all. It's not the hospitals job, its YOURS. If you choose not to breast feed, that's your choice and you should be responsible to provide the food.


I did state it's a UHC environment. You've gotten free/tax paid for care all along, the least you can do is provide your own formula and nipples (and those little glass bottles are fantastic, and worth their weight in gold when you're making 2 oz bottles)


And hospital food sucks, if I have to be in one, I will most definitely be having my own food brought in.
Just because you don't like or want hospital food doesn't mean the hospital shouldn't be responsible for providing meals for ALL of its patients. Last I checked, babies are patients too. Are you advocating for all patients to provide their own meals? I don't see how it is any different. If you can supply your own formula, shouldn't stand to reason that any patient should supply their own food as well? Hell, if your supposed to bring everything to mix formula, why not just bring an ice chest filled with sandwich fixings or even a salad or maybe some microwave dinners. Most hosptials have microwaves, right?

Just like the hospital food that is provided to other patients, you don't have to take the formula. If my husband brought me dinner at the hospital, the hospital would still bring their prepared dinner to my room. I also want to add that my hospital of choice has the best waffles around. I look forward to them every time I have been in the hospital.
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I said they only keep preemie sized nipples in the hospital. I didn't say ONLY preemies get them. They're kept because the area is notorious for very small underweight babies (average birth weight is under 7lbs right now). There are no preemies there. But you cannot find the nipples in stores, they need to be ordered so the hospital keeps them "in case" a child cannot use a regular sized nipple at all.

The more I read this, the more baffled I become. Why would the hospital only keep preemie nipples? What if mom planned to breastfeed, but something happened that prevented it. Maybe she died. Maybe they had a situation similar to my cousin. Her baby refused to breastfeed, After multiple attempts with the post partum nurses and several LC's both in and out of the hospital, it was decided that bottle feeding would be best. She didn't use formula, but she did use a bottle and nipple. I cannot believe that a hospital wouldn't keep regular sized nipples for cases like that.
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Considering the fact that babies are patients too and that here in the US we pay for insurance and co-payments for hospital stays, it is their job to help a mom feed her child. It falls on the parents shoulders once everyone is home. Also, keep in mind that not all parents can buy formula out if pocket and depend on help like wic.

It makes no sense to expect parents to bring their own formula and nipples to boot if desired or needed. What might work in one area, especially one with uhc, might not work in others, especially if that other place doesn't have uhc.
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Additionally, will they expect parents to bring in diapers and wipes to use or for mothers to bring in their own post partum supplies? My hospital has always provided those!

As for people not liking the "advertising" aspect of it, then the diapers and wipes should have no brand on them, a yogurt for breakfast shouldn't, a bag of chips shouldn't, etc.
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Also, if no companies should market to hospitals except for medicines, then there shouldn't be a goody bag with anything in it for mom. Not even products for bf moms. I know I refused the free pump because I already had my own and wouldn't need it for the 24 hours I was in the hospital anyway but my goody bag had little samples of nursing pads, lansinoh, bottle liners(for freezing breast milk), little gel freezer packs, and adverts for supplies from companies such as AVENT.

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This makes no sense to me at all. Why on Earth are you expected to bring in formula for your own child? Do they require all other people to supply their own food for their hospital stay as well? I know each time I have been in the hospital, the hospital supplied all of my meals. Why would it be any different with formula for babies? They only provide nipples to the premie babies? Would you ever think it was acceptable to have to bring your own fork or plate to the hospital?
Actually, it is the parent's responsibility to feed their own kid. The hospital didn't get you pregnant.

And not only that, your "free" food that is supplied at the hospital for you is paid for usually by your insurance. If you don't have that benefit on your insurance, you pay for it yourself. I have mine on my insurance---I pay for that benefit by paying my premium to the insurance company. My friend does NOT have the food on her insurance. She pays a small fee to eat the hospital food. If she doesn't want to pay for the food and wants something else? Someone brings it to her, the hospital doesn't go grab it for her. NOT. THEIR. JOB.

And no they don't ONLY provide nipples to preemies. They provide preemie-size/newborn size nipples to any baby that will take it that isn't being breast fed. Parents ARE allowed to bring in a different type of nipple if they don't want their baby using the one provided. You CAN bring a fork and plate for yourself if you don't like the one the hospital provides, they won't STOP you. If you don't think their stuff is adequate, you can provide for yourself. AGAIN, they are NOT obligated to feed you for free. And they're likewise, not obligated to feed a child you chose to have for yourself.
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Actually, it is the parent's responsibility to feed their own kid. The hospital didn't get you pregnant.

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So, when a ff fed baby has to go to the hospital, mom and dad need to bring formula from home?

This is hilarious! In the other debate you think its fine and dandy for the taxpayer to foot the bill for mom to stay home for a year( or "up to three years") but a few bottles of formula from the hospital is irresponsible on mom and dad's part.
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Actually, it is the parent's responsibility to feed their own kid. The hospital didn't get you pregnant.

And not only that, your "free" food that is supplied at the hospital for you is paid for usually by your insurance. If you don't have that benefit on your insurance, you pay for it yourself. I have mine on my insurance---I pay for that benefit by paying my premium to the insurance company. My friend does NOT have the food on her insurance. She pays a small fee to eat the hospital food. If she doesn't want to pay for the food and wants something else? Someone brings it to her, the hospital doesn't go grab it for her. NOT. THEIR. JOB.

And no they don't ONLY provide nipples to preemies. They provide preemie-size/newborn size nipples to any baby that will take it that isn't being breast fed. Parents ARE allowed to bring in a different type of nipple if they don't want their baby using the one provided. You CAN bring a fork and plate for yourself if you don't like the one the hospital provides, they won't STOP you. If you don't think their stuff is adequate, you can provide for yourself. AGAIN, they are NOT obligated to feed you for free. And they're likewise, not obligated to feed a child you chose to have for yourself.
You didn't actually read what people are replying to before posting this did you? I'd quote it, but I'd much rather you go back and actually read it. She DID say the hospital ONLY supplies preemie nipples and parents have to bring in their own.

Whether it's UHC, a stay paid for by insurance, a stay paid for out of pocket, or a stay paid for by the government, hell even a stay never paid for....it is STILL the hospital's job to provide you with all you need to remain nourished while there. This includes newborns as they are patients the moment they are born.(some are patients before they're even born actually). So that aspect has absolutely no bearing on whether or not the hospital "has" to feed you, or your baby. They do, they are obligated to do so. That's not saying what they provide will be what you want, or even good for that matter. But they do have to provide it. Many, many, hospitals aren't private care either, which also makes them obligated to treat you and provide you with basic minimal care even if you can't pay at all-nourishment is included in that. Of course they can still charge out the *** for it, but they still have to feed you, and your newborn. Despite what some might think. It's ridiculous to believe they shouldn't, actually it's not ridiculous, it's flat out stupid and ignorant, imo.
Do you know what kind of lawsuits they'd have on their hands if they didn't feed patients?
It doesn't matter if "they didn't get you pregnant"(stupid statement, imo, showing your ignorance since it's rather obvious not a **** person suggested they did). Your baby is in their care, as much as you are, the moment he or she is born there. It's THEIR responsibility to make sure basic care is given, if not by you, then by them.
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Actually, it is the parent's responsibility to feed their own kid. The hospital didn't get you pregnant.

And not only that, your "free" food that is supplied at the hospital for you is paid for usually by your insurance. If you don't have that benefit on your insurance, you pay for it yourself. I have mine on my insurance---I pay for that benefit by paying my premium to the insurance company. My friend does NOT have the food on her insurance. She pays a small fee to eat the hospital food. If she doesn't want to pay for the food and wants something else? Someone brings it to her, the hospital doesn't go grab it for her. NOT. THEIR. JOB.

And no they don't ONLY provide nipples to preemies. They provide preemie-size/newborn size nipples to any baby that will take it that isn't being breast fed. Parents ARE allowed to bring in a different type of nipple if they don't want their baby using the one provided. You CAN bring a fork and plate for yourself if you don't like the one the hospital provides, they won't STOP you. If you don't think their stuff is adequate, you can provide for yourself. AGAIN, they are NOT obligated to feed you for free. And they're likewise, not obligated to feed a child you chose to have for yourself.
Where did the words free ever come into anything I posted? I am sure I am pay a premium for the food I get in the hospital. I also get that you don't have to use what the hospital supplies. With my last baby, my husband brought me food because my MIL had made my favorite while I was in there, but the hospital still provided food for me. I have no problems admitting I am wrong, but I have never heard of a plan in a hospital that doesn't supply food for it's patients (unless we are talking about formula for babies).

I don't know why you are directing the preemie nipple thing to me. I was pretty confused by plan4fates nipple statement. She is the one that said they only had preemie nipples in the hospital. I find that hard to believe.

Here is my question to you Lynn. Why are they obligated to feed anyone in the hospital if they are not obligated to feed formula fed babies? Why are they any different? Why shouldn't all people be responsible for bringing in their own food?
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