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April 30th, 2007, 11:12 AM
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so im sure you all have seen those blinkies for formula feeding that say "my baby is smart, healthy happy and FORMULA FED!" and other blinkies of that nature.

as a BFing mom that annoys me, it is so mean and meant to be "HAHA in your face, now what! my baby is smart too" kind of thing. is this a defensive/offensive tactic against breatfeeding mommies? cause for me personally it feels like it and it sounds so arguementative.
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so im sure you all have seen those blinkies for formula feeding that say "my baby is smart, healthy happy and FORMULA FED!" and other blinkies of that nature.

as a BFing mom that annoys me, it is so mean and meant to be "HAHA in your face, now what! my baby is smart too" kind of thing. is this a defensive/offensive tactic against breatfeeding mommies? cause for me personally it feels like it and it sounds so arguementative.[/b]
Have you seen some of the BFing blinkies out there? IMO, a mother should be able to have pride in her choices, even if they aren't the same as yours. I don't see why a BF woman can have a blinkie and a FF woman can't.
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April 30th, 2007, 11:42 AM
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I don't see anything wrong with them...and I can understand why someone would have one with some of the more offensive breastfeeding blinkies out there! I have seen ones comparing formula to rat poison!!!
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April 30th, 2007, 11:51 AM
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so im sure you all have seen those blinkies for formula feeding that say "my baby is smart, healthy happy and FORMULA FED!" and other blinkies of that nature.

as a BFing mom that annoys me, it is so mean and meant to be "HAHA in your face, now what! my baby is smart too" kind of thing. is this a defensive/offensive tactic against breatfeeding mommies? cause for me personally it feels like it and it sounds so arguementative.[/b]
I dont think its meant to be "in your face"... I think its more of a defense because often BFing moms boast about how breast is best and FFing moms may feel like they are trying to make them feel bad about that.

I completely understand how they feel (even though I'm a BFing mom). Thats why I made my "my son is circumcised, get over it" blinkie... I was sick of seeing all the anti-circ blinkies, so I made a blinkie of my own. It's not an "in your face" thing, but rather a "we both have our own parenting choices and just because they're different doesnt make either of us better or worse than the other" sort of thing.

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If the BFing blinkies aren't "in your face" then the FFing ones aren't either. I see no difference. It's a parent standing behind the choice they made. I see nothing wrong with that.
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I dont think its meant to be "in your face"... I think its more of a defense because often BFing moms boast about how breast is best and FFing moms may feel like they are trying to make them feel bad about that.[/b]
I think thats true for most blinkies, each side seems to directly or indirectly push and blinkies can be used as a defense.
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so im sure you all have seen those blinkies for formula feeding that say "my baby is smart, healthy happy and FORMULA FED!" and other blinkies of that nature.

as a BFing mom that annoys me, it is so mean and meant to be "HAHA in your face, now what! my baby is smart too" kind of thing. is this a defensive/offensive tactic against breatfeeding mommies? cause for me personally it feels like it and it sounds so arguementative.[/b]
I dont think its meant to be "in your face"... I think its more of a defense because often BFing moms boast about how breast is best and FFing moms may feel like they are trying to make them feel bad about that.

I completely understand how they feel (even though I'm a BFing mom). Thats why I made my "my son is circumcised, get over it" blinkie... I was sick of seeing all the anti-circ blinkies, so I made a blinkie of my own. It's not an "in your face" thing, but rather a "we both have our own parenting choices and just because they're different doesnt make either of us better or worse than the other" sort of thing.

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and wanna know something funny. I don't debate about FF or BF, or any other touchy parenting choice for that matter. I just think it's kinda neat to see what kind of parents everyone on here is. I have a FF blinkie and a CIO blinkie. I am looking at finding one for every one of my choices (well not everyone, but you KWIM) not saying "in your face" but rather just to let people get to know who I am as a mother a bit....
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I don't think they are always meant as defensive or in your face, but I have already read the "my baby is FF and just as smart, just as healthy, etc" blinkie as a defensive one just in how it is phrased. However, everyone has a different perspective and, this being text, it's sometimes hard to tell how someone means something, KWIM?
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Have you seen some of the BFing blinkies out there? IMO, a mother should be able to have pride in her choices, even if they aren't the same as yours. I don't see why a BF woman can have a blinkie and a FF woman can't.[/b]
ok this thread was taken the wrong way then. i didn't say all FF blinkies are offensive, i said the ones that are like JUST AS SMART, JUST AS LOVED...

someone above has one that says proud bottle feeding mama, i don't find that offensive, or the ones that say 100% breastfed baby or 100% formula fed baby. i didn't mean those statement blinkies. im mean the ones that are far beyond the "proud" blinky and into the "WE'RE HAPPY TOO!"
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Have you seen some of the BFing blinkies out there? IMO, a mother should be able to have pride in her choices, even if they aren't the same as yours. I don't see why a BF woman can have a blinkie and a FF woman can't.[/b]
ok this thread was taken the wrong way then. i didn't say all FF blinkies are offensive, i said the ones that are like JUST AS SMART, JUST AS LOVED...

someone above has one that says proud bottle feeding mama, i don't find that offensive, or the ones that say 100% breastfed baby or 100% formula fed baby. i didn't mean those statement blinkies. im mean the ones that are far beyond the "proud" blinky and into the "WE'RE HAPPY TOO!"
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Why is it offensive for a mom to say her baby is just as smart and just as loved as a BF baby? Many of us face judgement IRL for our choice to FF, as if we are sub-par mothers for doing so. It's just another way of expressing yourself.
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Why is it offensive for a mom to say her baby is just as smart and just as loved as a BF baby? Many of us face judgement IRL for our choice to FF, as if we are sub-par mothers for doing so. It's just another way of expressing yourself.[/b]
i think it's more the tone. instead of a calmer "my baby is 100% formula fed" or "proud formula feeding mom" it's more like im just as good as you and i love my baby too, therefore making it seem that BFing moms already look at you like you aren't as good a mother because of your choice.
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i think it's more the tone. instead of a calmer "my baby is 100% formula fed" or "proud formula feeding mom" it's more like im just as good as you and i love my baby too, therefore making it seem that BFing moms already look at you like you aren't as good a mother because of your choice.[/b]
Except that that is how a lot of formula feeding moms are made to feel...like we aren't as good because we made a "sub par" choice for our baby.
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Why is it offensive for a mom to say her baby is just as smart and just as loved as a BF baby? Many of us face judgement IRL for our choice to FF, as if we are sub-par mothers for doing so. It's just another way of expressing yourself.[/b]
i think it's more the tone. instead of a calmer "my baby is 100% formula fed" or "proud formula feeding mom" it's more like im just as good as you and i love my baby too, therefore making it seem that BFing moms already look at you like you aren't as good a mother because of your choice.
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It comes up in the debates all the time oh well if your BF your smarter, skinner, healthier. What about the BF blinkies that say Mamas Milk is Love and I guess Formula isn't? Oh and BreastFeeding is Bestfeeding?
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<div class='quotemain'>Why is it offensive for a mom to say her baby is just as smart and just as loved as a BF baby? Many of us face judgement IRL for our choice to FF, as if we are sub-par mothers for doing so. It's just another way of expressing yourself.[/b]
i think it's more the tone. instead of a calmer "my baby is 100% formula fed" or "proud formula feeding mom" it's more like im just as good as you and i love my baby too, therefore making it seem that BFing moms already look at you like you aren't as good a mother because of your choice.
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It comes up in the debates all the time oh well if your BF your smarter, skinner, healthier. What about the BF blinkies that say Mamas Milk is Love and I guess Formula isn't? Oh and BreastFeeding is Bestfeeding?
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It has been proven that formula fed babies have higher IQ's. How can you dispute that? You think the research is incorrect? It has also been proven that breastfeeding is the healthier choice (in most cases) because it is complete, natural nutrition which CANNOT be duplicated in formula. Are you disputing that as well? Breastfeeding is BESTfeeding- breast is best on so many levels. How can you argue with the facts?
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<div class='quotemain'>Why is it offensive for a mom to say her baby is just as smart and just as loved as a BF baby? Many of us face judgement IRL for our choice to FF, as if we are sub-par mothers for doing so. It's just another way of expressing yourself.[/b]
i think it's more the tone. instead of a calmer "my baby is 100% formula fed" or "proud formula feeding mom" it's more like im just as good as you and i love my baby too, therefore making it seem that BFing moms already look at you like you aren't as good a mother because of your choice.
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It comes up in the debates all the time oh well if your BF your smarter, skinner, healthier. What about the BF blinkies that say Mamas Milk is Love and I guess Formula isn't? Oh and BreastFeeding is Bestfeeding?
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erm... but Breast IS best....
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We've all heard the research about the benefits of BFing. BUT sometimes those of us who FF feel the need to say "You know what, my child IS smart. My child IS loved" b/c whether intentionally or unintentionally, on-line or IRL, SOME BFing moms make us feel like since we are feeding our kids "inferior" food, then our kids must be "inferior" too. So our mother bear instinct comes out and we get our defenses up. Which is why these debates tend to get so heated. Each side feels like they are being judged, looked down on, ect. Now don't get me wrong...I'm not saying ALL BF moms do this. I'm just saying that some of the comments (on-line and IRL) come across this way. It's just the nature of the issue.
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<div class='quotemain'>Why is it offensive for a mom to say her baby is just as smart and just as loved as a BF baby? Many of us face judgement IRL for our choice to FF, as if we are sub-par mothers for doing so. It's just another way of expressing yourself.[/b]
i think it's more the tone. instead of a calmer "my baby is 100% formula fed" or "proud formula feeding mom" it's more like im just as good as you and i love my baby too, therefore making it seem that BFing moms already look at you like you aren't as good a mother because of your choice.
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It comes up in the debates all the time oh well if your BF your smarter, skinner, healthier. What about the BF blinkies that say Mamas Milk is Love and I guess Formula isn't? Oh and BreastFeeding is Bestfeeding?
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It has been proven that formula fed babies have higher IQ's. How can you dispute that? You think the research is incorrect? It has also been proven that breastfeeding is the healthier choice (in most cases) because it is complete, natural nutrition which CANNOT be duplicated in formula. Are you disputing that as well? Breastfeeding is BESTfeeding- breast is best on so many levels. How can you argue with the facts?
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I'm not saying that anything is incorrect, but FF babies can be LOVED, HEALTHY, and SMART. The same as BF babies so really the blinkie thats states BF is healthier, smarter is not always correct. Same as the FF blinkie that says the same.


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i think it's more the tone. instead of a calmer "my baby is 100% formula fed" or "proud formula feeding mom" it's more like im just as good as you and i love my baby too, therefore making it seem that BFing moms already look at you like you aren't as good a mother because of your choice.
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It comes up in the debates all the time oh well if your BF your smarter, skinner, healthier. What about the BF blinkies that say Mamas Milk is Love and I guess Formula isn't? Oh and BreastFeeding is Bestfeeding?
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erm... but Breast IS best....
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erm well the OP was talking about just throw it in your face attitudes. I think that shove in your face takes the cake over FF babies being smart, healthy and loved.
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I totally understand why the blinkies are out there. Without posting a novela, I truly had my heart set on breastfeeding, but there was a whole domino-effect of things that led to failure to breastfeed my child. While I think it is awesome to show your breastfeeding accomplishment, it does sting to see blinkies that essentially say my baby will be stupid, obese and on a path to diabetes...especially when it wasn't necessarily my choice.
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Why is that an offensive message?

Sorry, I still dont get it.
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I totally understand why the blinkies are out there. Without posting a novela, I truly had my heart set on breastfeeding, but there was a whole domino-effect of things that led to failure to breastfeed my child. While I think it is awesome to show your breastfeeding accomplishment, it does sting to see blinkies that essentially say my baby will be stupid, obese and on a path to diabetes...especially when it wasn't necessarily my choice.[/b]


I was physically and mentally unable to continue my breastfeeding relationship with my son. Seeing the in your face BF blinkies like the ones that compare formula to rat poison makes me feel like a horrible mother. I didn't have a choice but to use that "rat poison".

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It has been proven that formula fed babies have higher IQ's. How can you dispute that? You think the research is incorrect? It has also been proven that breastfeeding is the healthier choice (in most cases) because it is complete, natural nutrition which CANNOT be duplicated in formula. Are you disputing that as well? Breastfeeding is BESTfeeding- breast is best on so many levels. How can you argue with the facts?[/b]
Actually that "fact" about BF babies being smarter has been proven wrong. Environment is the key to a smarter baby. The thing that skewers the previous studies is that upper-class college educated women were more likely to breastfeed, whereas lower-income women were not, either because of the horrendous lack of education and support in this country or because of pure naivety. But BF is not a factor in making a child smarter. There was a recent post on this debate board about that... or did you miss it?

I don't argue with the other facts. I KNOW that BF is best, and it makes me feel like utter crap that I wasn't able to do it longer than four days.
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