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  #1  
May 14th, 2007, 07:07 PM
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Women who choose to have Caesarean sections may be jeopardising their chances of bonding properly with their babies, a leading childbirth expert has claimed.

Obstetrician Michel Odent said that undergoing the planned procedure prevents the release of hormones that cause a woman to 'fall in love' with her child.

Speaking at a conference in Cambridge, Dr Odent warned that both C-sections and artificial inductions with drugs somehow interfere with the natural production of the hormone oxytocin.

The French expert said: "Oxytocin is the hormone of love, and to give birth without releasing this complex cocktail of love chemicals disturbs the first contact between the mother and the baby.

"The hormone is produced during sex and breastfeeding, as well as birth, but in the moments after birth, a woman's oxytocin level is the highest it will ever be in her life, and this peak is vital.

"It is this hormone flood that enables a woman to fall in love with her newborn and forget the pain of birth."[/b]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/arti...4#StartComments


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May 14th, 2007, 07:13 PM
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To me this is tabloid media. They just want to cause a stir. I have had all types of labor. An emergency C-Section, a VBAC, and a scheulded C-Section. I have had no issues bonding with any of them. My Scheduled C-Section baby went right to NICU and I had one chance to breastfeed her and hold her and after that no contact for three days. We made it just fine. They are just trying to sell articles.
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May 14th, 2007, 07:18 PM
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I hate that people seem to want to perpetuate the belief that women who have C-sections are some how not as worthy or loving as mothers. My mom had to have an emergency C-section with her first daughter. My sister's heart rate continued to plummet while my mom was in labor so they had to remove her immediately. Unfortunately, my sister died when she was 4 months old as a result of her heart disorder. Almost 30 years later I can still see the love on my mother's face when she talks about her lost baby.

My mom went on to deliver my brother and I by c-section because those were the days before V-BACs. My brother and I have a wonderful bond with our mother.

Articles like that make me sick. I can only guess that they were written by someone who never had a baby by C-section!
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May 14th, 2007, 07:28 PM
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Hmmm. I don't know how I feel about the article, but I do know how my c-section effected my bond with my child. I can't really explain it too well but I think because I never went into labor or anything, the c-section kind of tricked my body out of realizing that I gave birth. Its like labor and delivery is the ultimate finale to pregnancy...not experiencing it felt sort of like missing the last 20 minutes of a really engrossing movie; one minute you're pregnant and the next your baby is there (then wisked away shortly after), but something is missing. Its not that I didn't love my baby or anything like that, but it took me a full 2 weeks (when I was looking at pictures from the hospital) for it to hit me that this little baby was the same creature that I felt kicking inside of me.
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May 14th, 2007, 08:22 PM
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Hmmm. I don't know how I feel about the article, but I do know how my c-section effected my bond with my child. I can't really explain it too well but I think because I never went into labor or anything, the c-section kind of tricked my body out of realizing that I gave birth. Its like labor and delivery is the ultimate finale to pregnancy...not experiencing it felt sort of like missing the last 20 minutes of a really engrossing movie; one minute you're pregnant and the next your baby is there (then wisked away shortly after), but something is missing. Its not that I didn't love my baby or anything like that, but it took me a full 2 weeks (when I was looking at pictures from the hospital) for it to hit me that this little baby was the same creature that I felt kicking inside of me.[/b]

I had vaginal births, and it wasn't immediate for me either. I think some moms instantly bond with their kids, and with others, it takes a little more time. I know that I love my kids as much as any mom could love theirs, but when I was handed my babies, they could have been any other woman's babies for all I know. I didn't feel that immediate bond to them, it was more like I was meeting someone for the first time. I instantly loved them, but I didn't immediately have that overwhelming motherly instinct. I usually don't tell people that, because I know some will think I'm a bad mom.
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May 14th, 2007, 08:27 PM
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Articles like that make me sick. I can only guess that they were written by someone who never had a baby by C-section![/b]
that was my inital thought also. Both of my children we're born via c-section and "I" feel we have bonded.

Imo, there is so much hoopla about how they come into the world, whether it's c-section, vaginal or vbac, all that matters is that you love and care for them to the best of your ability. Being born takes mere seconds... raising a child take a life time.
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May 14th, 2007, 08:32 PM
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Great, another set-up for a mommy war. When will it ever end?
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May 14th, 2007, 08:43 PM
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Great, another set-up for a mommy war. When will it ever end?[/b]

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ETA: I honestly thought this was an interesting subject - I'm not trying to offend anyone by posting this article.
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May 14th, 2007, 09:52 PM
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I can only say from experience from one side of the argument (since I haven't given birth in any manner yet). I was a c-section baby as were my 3 siblings. My mother had no problems bonding with us. I've talked about my birth with her, what she remembers, etc. My older brother was an emergency c-section and me, my younger bro and my sis were planned c-sections. She reports "falling in love" with us just fine, thank you! She said the minute each of us was placed in her arms, she felt as if a piece of her own heart was in us. Maybe that's oxytocin talking, maybe not, but I agree this "research" sounds suspiciously like someone drumming up publicity.
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May 14th, 2007, 10:21 PM
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Great, another set-up for a mommy war. When will it ever end?[/b]

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ETA: I honestly thought this was an interesting subject - I'm not trying to offend anyone by posting this article.
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Oh honey, I'm sorry. I'm very out there emotionally right now, and it kinda ticked me off. I'm certainly not mad at you, and you didn't offend me for posting the article. The article though definetely offended me, but that's just because I think it's grasping at straws and trying to make mommies feel bad. I'm sorry. It IS an interesting subject... I will be back to post my thoughts once I'm more emotionally grounded.
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May 14th, 2007, 10:34 PM
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May 15th, 2007, 02:14 AM
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Actually,I find that to be true (in my case).
Iv had both a vaginal birth,and an emergency c-section,and yes,it took me a long time to bond with my son due to missing out on labour,birth,being able to hold him etc.
I was almost 8 months pregnant and I had a hemorage,so I was rushed into hospital and because I had to have an emergency c-section,there was no time for the epidural,so I had to have general anestetic.
It was wierd..I felt like I had missed out on something,that something was missing.
When I woke up (2 days later) my son wasnt in the room with me,infact,he was on another floor all together,so after having the c-section,I didnt even get to see him until he was 4 days old.It was a strange feeling..I didnt feel much when I first saw him,infact,It didnt even feel like he was mine kwim? I was very frustrated because I was expecting to feel something more...I felt guilty.
They didnt let me breast feed until he was about 9 days old (until then he was being fed by a tube in his nose) so up until I could actually breast feed him,I must admit that I didnt feel that instant bond (that doesnt mean I didnt love him of course).
It sounds horrible,but thats how I felt.Of course once I started breast feeding,we bonded right away
With my daughter,things were 100% different.
I was almost 2 weeks over due (which felt GREAT!!) and finally my waters broke and I went into labour...then came the pushing.It was instant! As soon as they layed her on my chest,I felt a huge rush of love.She was allowed to stay with my right away and it felt amazing.I bonded with her the moment I saw her for the first time.
In my case my c-section did effect that bond although I didnt realise how much until I had my daughter 2 years later.



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Hmmm. I don't know how I feel about the article, but I do know how my c-section effected my bond with my child. I can't really explain it too well but I think because I never went into labor or anything, the c-section kind of tricked my body out of realizing that I gave birth. Its like labor and delivery is the ultimate finale to pregnancy...not experiencing it felt sort of like missing the last 20 minutes of a really engrossing movie; one minute you're pregnant and the next your baby is there (then wisked away shortly after), but something is missing. Its not that I didn't love my baby or anything like that, but it took me a full 2 weeks (when I was looking at pictures from the hospital) for it to hit me that this little baby was the same creature that I felt kicking inside of me.[/b]
ITA..you explained it better than I did
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May 15th, 2007, 06:57 AM
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I had vaginal births, and it wasn't immediate for me either. I think some moms instantly bond with their kids, and with others, it takes a little more time. I know that I love my kids as much as any mom could love theirs, but when I was handed my babies, they could have been any other woman's babies for all I know. I didn't feel that immediate bond to them, it was more like I was meeting someone for the first time. I instantly loved them, but I didn't immediately have that overwhelming motherly instinct. I usually don't tell people that, because I know some will think I'm a bad mom.[/b]
Of course, I loved my son when he was first born, but it wasn't the instant "I would die for you" kind of thing. Honestly, I didn't even feel like a real mother for the first few days, it was like I was in some kind of dream or haze or something. It developed gradually.

I totally disagree with the article. Heck, I am adopted, my mom didn't go through vaginal birth, c-section, or even pregnancy. Nor did she breastfeed. And yet our bond has always been extremely strong, and through my pregnancy and having a baby she has often told me how the moment she held me in her arms she was head over heels in love with me and knew her life was complete.
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May 15th, 2007, 07:54 AM
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Hmm funny how I had a c-section and I was bonded and still am bonded with my daughter. I fell in love with her the day I found out I was preg. When I saw her for the first time a few seconds after they took her out I cried. I have a very strong bond with her. So I dont think its true. I know women who have had babies vaginally and didnt bond with there babies. I have a strong bond with my daughter and always will have she is my
c-section baby.
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I think not! If this were true, we would have a whole generation of people walking around with attachment issues just because they were born via c-section!
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May 15th, 2007, 09:15 AM
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All the more reason to breastfeed! [/b]

This is kind of what I thought too. Not that breastfeeding is the only way to bond, but that it is what you do for your baby afterwards that builds a real bond with your baby. With my first baby (vaginal birth, no pitocin), I expected to push my baby out, have them place her on my belly, and I would immediately burst into tears, overwhelmed with my love for this tiny individual. Instead, she had breathed in some meconium, so the whisked her away to suction her lungs. I watched her across the room and thought "It's a baby." That's pretty much it! With my son, I was induced, and they handed him to me right after he was delivered. I remember just having similar feelings as I did with my daughter. ""Oh, a baby." I loved them of course, but my 'I would die for them' love came a little later.

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Great, another set-up for a mommy war. When will it ever end?[/b]

Is there a list of topics that you feel should be off limits?


ETA: I honestly thought this was an interesting subject - I'm not trying to offend anyone by posting this article.
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Oh honey, I'm sorry. I'm very out there emotionally right now, and it kinda ticked me off. I'm certainly not mad at you, and you didn't offend me for posting the article. The article though definetely offended me, but that's just because I think it's grasping at straws and trying to make mommies feel bad. I'm sorry. It IS an interesting subject... I will be back to post my thoughts once I'm more emotionally grounded.
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