[_Brandy_]

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medi...p?newsid=71918



http://www.newswithviews.com/Tenpenny/sherri14.htm

http://www.drerika.com/blog?action=viewBlo...099865551059475

[LuvEmm]

Thanks for the info. I am not surprised. I was just biding my time until evidence showed the problems. Sheesh!

Not suprised. Too many people rushed this before clear evidence of its side effects were there.

That is awful

[Banned-coughburp]

Very sad. I hope this gives reasons for the vaccine to not be mandatory.

[_Brandy_]

Very sad. I hope this gives reasons for the vaccine to not be mandatory.[/b]

No vaccine in mandatory in the US or Canada.

[samu2]

Three deaths out of thousands of people who have had it done, sound just as risky as any other vax to me.

[samu2]

Also they are all unverified websites so I do not trust them for one minute. It does not mean it is related, it just means it has to be reported.

One website is written by a by an anti-vaccine advocate who promotes a connection between autism and vaccines and the other was written by a conservative legal organization which overwhelmingly promotes conservative causes.

And FYI

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arthur-allen...te_b_51542.html

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd-vac/hpv/do...fe-efficacy.pdf


I put no stock in those links what so ever.

From the CDC: (.pdf file)

Quote:
Since the vaccine was licensed, there have been three deaths reported among persons who received Gardasil®: One involving a pulmonary embolism; one involving myocarditis due to influenza A infection; and one from a blood clot. These deaths are being fully investigated. Since more than 5 million doses have been distributed, some deaths will occur coincidentally following vaccination (but not due to vaccination).[/b]

BTW this info was from another debate site who have people very educated on Vaxing.

[SusieQ2]

While it's sad that these women died they aren't even sure if it is definitely linked to the vaccine. No vaccine is perfect. I think 3 deaths is minimal compared to the amount of women who may die from ovarian cancer that was caused as a result of having HPV. Sometimes the benefits outweigh the risks and you have to take a chance.

[samu2]

While it's sad that these women died they aren't even sure if it is definitely linked to the vaccine. No vaccine is perfect. I think 3 deaths is minimal compared to the amount of women who may die from ovarian cancer that was caused as a result of having HPV. Sometimes the benefits outweigh the risks and you have to take a chance.[/b]

Yep. I think I will wait for a more reliable source until I write it off. If 3 million people have had the vax of course three people will die who have had it, it does not mean it is related to the VAX. I get pissed off when articles like that spew out this ###### to scare people when they haven't even got their facts right and especially when they have an ulterior motive. The sites are not even verified.

[_Brandy_]

Cervical cancer death rates are not that high. For me, I would not have this vaccine, instead I would have regular pap tests. I feel confident, should I contract it, I would survive it.

Detailed Guide: Cervical Cancer
What Are the Key Statistics About Cervical Cancer?

The American Cancer Society estimates that in 2007, about 11,150 cases of invasive cervical cancer will be diagnosed in the United States. Some researchers estimate that non-invasive cervical cancer (carcinoma in situ) is about 4 times more common than invasive cervical cancer.

About 3,670 women will die from cervical cancer in the United States during 2007. Cervical cancer was once one of the most common causes of cancer death for American women. Between 1955 and 1992, the number of cervical cancer deaths in the United States dropped by 74%. The main reason for this change is the increased use of the Pap test. This screening procedure can find changes in the cervix before cancer develops. It can also find early cancer in its most curable stage. The death rate from cervical cancer continues to decline by nearly 4% a year.

Cervical cancer tends to occur in midlife. Half of women diagnosed with this cancer are between the ages of 35 and 55. It rarely occurs in women younger than 20. Although cervical cancer does affect young women, many older women do not realize that the risk of developing cervical cancer is still present as they age. Slightly over 20% of women with cervical cancer are diagnosed when they are over 65. It is important for older women to continue having regular Pap tests at least until age 70, and possibly longer. See the section, "Can Cervical Cancer Be Prevented?" for more specific information on current American Cancer Society screening recommendations.

Cervical cancer occurs most often in Hispanic women; the rate is over twice that in non-Hispanic white women. African-American women develop this cancer about 50% more often than non-Hispanic white women.

The 5-year relative survival rate for the earliest stage of invasive cervical cancer is 92%. The overall (all stages combined) 5-year survival rate for cervical cancer is about 72%.

The 5-year survival rate refers to the percentage of patients who live at least 5 years after their cancer is diagnosed. Five-year rates are used to produce a standard way of discussing prognosis. Of course, many people live much longer than 5 years. Five-year relative survival rates exclude patients dying of other diseases. This means that anyone who died of another cause, such as heart disease, is not counted.

Keep in mind that 5-year survival rates are based on patients diagnosed and initially treated more than 5 years ago. Improvements in treatment often result in a more favorable outlook for recently diagnosed patients.

Revised: 08/04/2006


Taken from http://www.cancer.org/docroot/CRI/content/...al_cancer_8.asp

[samu2]

That is great Brandy if that is what you choose I can't have it anyway but links like the above does nothing but scare people and give them false information. For me it is a no brainer, the amount of people who die from cancer far outweighs the percentage who has died from the Vax. As of yet no one knows ANYONE has died from it, there is no hard evidence that they died from the vax itself. Sadly some people do have bad reactions from VAX but the people who die from the illnesses itself are much much higher.

BTW just in case anyone missed this in the link I posted.

More to the point, the three deaths reported to VAERS after HPV were heart attacks that followed administration of the vaccine by three hours, a week and two weeks, respectively. It's a good thing that they were reported to VAERS. We need to know if people are dying after vaccination. But when people die following a vaccination, it isn't necessarily the vaccination that caused it, a fact that generations of vaccine critics have failed to clearly see as they bungle their interpretations of VAERS data.

When the CDC, responding to the three death reports, interviewed doctors and examined the charts, they found that one, a case of myocarditis, was caused by influenza virus. The other two were blood clots in adolescents taking birth control pills. Birth control pills are known to raise the risk of blood clots. "These deaths are tragic but appear to have causes unrelated to vaccination," says Dr. John Iskander, co-director of the Immunization Safety Office at the CDC."[/b]

Nothing to do with the vax, so if people who were going to have it or get their child vaxed against it, I hope this puts your mind at rest somewhat

[Banned-coughburp]

No vaccine in mandatory in the US or Canada.
[/b]

Some school districts are trying to make it mandatory for girls before they start school.

i must say three deaths out of the 1000's of deaths that could result from not having the vax seems a heck of a lot better to me....

[samu2]

i must say three deaths out of the 1000's of deaths that could result from not having the vax seems a heck of a lot better to me....[/b]

Yep, except they did not die from the VAX for sure anyway

i must say three deaths out of the 1000's of deaths that could result from not having the vax seems a heck of a lot better to me....[/b]

I doubt the parents of these girls would agree.

[Banned-coughburp]

I doubt the parents of these girls would agree.
[/b]

I was going to say that...

[rose198172]

Some school districts are trying to make it mandatory for girls before they start school.
[/b]

I had read that too. Another reason why my daughter will be homeschooled, more than likely.

To me, the vaccine seems to be promoting promiscuity when given to girls as young as 9 or 10.

[berrygirll]

I am also against this vaccine in particular. My 3 kids have all been vaxed except for flu shots and dd will not be getting this, though it's years down the road and things may be different by then.
I had HPV after my 2nd son was born. It turned out that it wasn't cancerous thank goodness and I needed to do nothing but have paps every 6 months for 2 years. It burns itself out and my paps have been fine ever since.
I believe there are lots of different strains that cause cervical cancer & this only protects from a few of them (correct me if I'm wrong). Not near enough research has been done for me to feel comfortable giving it to my dd (if she was old enough at this time).
I don't think the CDC would ever admit that the vaccine could have problems unless it was in huge numbers with a huge amount of people protesting. It, like all the other prescription meds now out there (not ones a life depends on, just the people that think they have every illness/disorder known to man) is a big moneymaker for the pharm. companies so they are going to continue to come out with more & more meds for more & more "illnesses". My friend is a pharmacist and she said she thinks the whole city is depressed, she fills so many scrips for anti-depressants alone! Not meaning anything towards the people that genuinely need these meds- they do help them & that's great- but there are a lot who simply want them for various reasons, from help sleeping to dealing with their kids.
Ugh, sorry to get OT! I can go on and on about it and need to stop, lol.

But can you imagine the uproar and suing that would go on from all the girls/women who have received the vaccine already to know "there MAY be a problem, sorry, we didn't do enough research I guess!"

[samu2]

I doubt the parents of these girls would agree.
[/b]

did you actually read my links I posted or are you just taking an unverified website that has an agenda for its word? For the last time, this vax did not kill these children. It has been PROVEN to be safe, the only thing up in the air is how long it protects for.

Sorry but I get mad when people do not research or even look at proper websites and decide that the two people must have died from the vax because two websites said so. They died of other related conditions that can happen when taking BC. Just because they also had the vax it does not mean the vax killed them.