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July 12th, 2007, 10:11 AM
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I'm kind of disgusted by this news story. Is it too much to ask to give each soldier an individual funeral?
Mass Funeral for soldiers
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July 12th, 2007, 10:17 AM
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The very least you can do for a person who has given their lives for their country is to give them a personal funeral! I think to do otherwise is disrepectful of that life.
With that said though, what does it tell you when so many people are dying that they are considering a mass funeral!?! I'll never understand this war, it will take years before we ever know the full reprocutions from it. It breaks my heart to see the families torn up over the deaths of their loved ones, and the families that are spilt up because they have a loved one serving.
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July 12th, 2007, 10:26 AM
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Wow, that is shocking.
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July 12th, 2007, 10:29 AM
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That's pathetic.
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July 12th, 2007, 11:05 AM
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Can someone email that article to Bush?
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July 12th, 2007, 11:34 AM
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How sad..
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July 12th, 2007, 01:39 PM
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OMG This makes me mad!!!  I don't even know what to say, I think this is just terrible to even suggest that they should not have their own funeral.
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July 12th, 2007, 01:56 PM
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To me, this is just so wrong on so many levels. First of all, it's just sad that so many men and women are dying that this is even an issue!! I have a BIL who is going to Iraq in less than a month and I'm so scared for him. Second of all, these soliders are giving their lives for their country. The VERY least they deserve is a proper funeral. I am so outraged by that article that I can't even put into words how I feel. And if I could put it into words, I'd probably get banned.
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July 12th, 2007, 03:49 PM
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This pisses me off. Those soldiers gave their life for their country, they deserve their own service.
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July 12th, 2007, 05:07 PM
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Just for clarification, this has no impact on the funeral services for these men and women. This decision will only affect the memorial service that is held on the base and organized by the base commanders. A memorial service is completely seperate from the funeral, giving family, friends and others touched by a death, the chance to commemorate the life of those who are lost.
I realize that there will be those who feel that this decision is a callous dismissal of our fallen soldiers, and I can understand why it may be interpreted as such. I also empathize with those faced with this decision and the fact that they must make hard choices in light of current events. The memorials are not mandatory, the base commanders delegate to organize them. The military is like a family and the death of a fellow soldier, even a stranger, is devastating. I have complete faith that these officers want to, and will, do whatever necessary to conduct these memorials with decorum and sensitivity to the life and memory of each individual.
FWIW I have been to a group memorial, it was very intimate and contained personalized touches for each person involved.
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July 12th, 2007, 06:03 PM
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I thought funerals and memorials went hand and hand.... How does it work? Funeral (private), memorial (big)?
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July 12th, 2007, 06:07 PM
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I wish they had explained it better in the article, they made it sound like it was getting to be a 'drudgery' to have to give each fallen soldier their own private funeral.
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July 12th, 2007, 06:37 PM
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I thought funerals and memorials went hand and hand.... How does it work? Funeral (private), memorial (big)?[/b]
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A funeral is a service in which the body is present and will be buried following the service. Funerals are usually limited to family members and friends of the deceased. Memorial services are, just like the name, a service for loved ones to memorialize the memories of their lost loved one with one another. There is not a bdoy present at a memorial service, sometimes due to circumstances regarding the body such as it's location is unknown or it has been cremated. Memorial services are often, also held when the life and/or death of the deceased has a devastating impact on a large population and people, even those who may have never known the deceased, want a forum to grieve and find closure. The services and vigils organized and held for the victims of 9/11 are a great example of the purpose of memorial services, they were held all over the nation, even around the world. There were memorial services held all over for the victims of Columbine and VT. They simply give those touched by another's death a venue to grieve and seek solace and closure.
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July 13th, 2007, 04:57 AM
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I thought funerals and memorials went hand and hand.... How does it work? Funeral (private), memorial (big)?[/b]
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A funeral is a service in which the body is present and will be buried following the service. Funerals are usually limited to family members and friends of the deceased. Memorial services are, just like the name, a service for loved ones to memorialize the memories of their lost loved one with one another. There is not a bdoy present at a memorial service, sometimes due to circumstances regarding the body such as it's location is unknown or it has been cremated. Memorial services are often, also held when the life and/or death of the deceased has a devastating impact on a large population and people, even those who may have never known the deceased, want a forum to grieve and find closure. The services and vigils organized and held for the victims of 9/11 are a great example of the purpose of memorial services, they were held all over the nation, even around the world. There were memorial services held all over for the victims of Columbine and VT. They simply give those touched by another's death a venue to grieve and seek solace and closure.
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Ah, I see. That's not so bad then, makes sense to me.
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July 13th, 2007, 05:32 AM
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I don't think it's so bad to have a mass memorial service, but if this were a mass funeral service, I'd definitely have a problem. I still think that each and every person deserves to be remembered individually, though.
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July 13th, 2007, 06:37 PM
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Every one should have their own funeral. Regardless of how I feel about the war I will always support the people who givem their lives for it. My brother was a viet nam vet and I saw how he was treated when he came home and it was a shame. No one deserved that kind of treatment for doing their job.
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July 13th, 2007, 06:39 PM
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Every one should have their own funeral. Regardless of how I feel about the war I will always support the people who givem their lives for it. My brother was a viet nam vet and I saw how he was treated when he came home and it was a shame. No one deserved that kind of treatment for doing their job.[/b]
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Please read the thread. There will not be a mass funeral, it will be a memorial service.
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