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  #21  
October 5th, 2008, 06:21 PM
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As I expected, AF showed up on my doorstep this morning. And boy is she here, I certainly miss those light AFs I had while on the BC pills for all those years. I have a doctor's appointment at 9:45 tomorrow morning for the u/s and then it'll be 150mg of Clomid for me starting on CD5. Hopefully this will be the dosage to work for us to get us that ellusive BFP. I got over being down about it, and now just looking forward to AF leaving and being able to get this next cycle going.

I wish the rest of you ladies in the 2WW the very best of luck, and can't wait to see the testing going on soon!!!
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October 7th, 2008, 06:14 AM
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My appointment went as I expected yesterday. The nurses were all disappointed that I wasn't pg. They all started asking me as soon as I got in the office. They so sweet. Another reason I really want this next cycle to work so I don't have to switch insurances and doctors. So, I have my 150mg of Clomid that I'll be starting tomorrow and this time my doctor wants me to start taking progestrine suppliements 7 days after I O. He doesn't like my LP being 11 days, and this past cycle was only 10 days. The eggie may be getting fertlized, but may not be having time to implant with my short LP. So, I start taking the progestrine 7 days after I O, then wait to test for 7 days after taking them, and if negative wait another 7 days before testing again. That'll be 21 days, I don't know if I can be that patient and wait that long to test. If I get that BFP, then I'll have to continue taking the progestrine for the 1st trimester of the pregnancy. Hopefully, this will all work this time!!!!
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October 9th, 2008, 06:16 AM
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Not to much to report today. I took my 1st round of the 150mg of Clomid last night. I'm taking them at night time again just in case I get side effects. I don't recall having anything last night, but did go to bed shortly after taking the pills. If I remember correctly from last cycle, I got my headaches after I took a couple of doses. So, we'll wait and see. . .

With my insurance, since I really really like my doctor & his staff, DH & I are looking closely at whether to switch insurances or not. My open transfer season starts Oct 20th and ends Nov 12th. They haven't released the rates yet, but our current insurance on last year's rates were much cheaper (bi-weekly pay deduction) as compare to the insurance we were considering switching too. Beyond the costs of infertility (IUI, IVF, etc.), we also have to consider how much the plan will cost us. Hopefully they'll release those rates soon. We're also having some Health Fairs at work, where representatives from all 3 insurance providers will be here to answer questions. I'm going to go in with my questions and see exactly what they all cover relating to infertility. So with this too, we'll wait and see . . .
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October 15th, 2008, 06:21 AM
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I'm here at CD12 now. It's a good thing that I normally O late, as DH & I haven't been able to get any BDing in lately. DH has one more day of crazy hours, next Sunday but other then that we should be back to more "normal" schedules and can get to BDing. My OPKs are negative still, and my CM isn't the really fertile stuff yet either, so I'm not panicking at this point. With clomid, I've been Oing on CD19 so we probably have another week yet to wait. I feel like I spend 90% of our TTC journey WTO. Once I do finally O, I'm supposed to start taking the progesterone 7 days after I O. The last time I took the progesterone, my temps looked so pretty & high. So, heads up here - don't get too excited when you see my temps do that again.
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October 19th, 2008, 04:52 PM
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Still WTO here, I'm at CD16, but I'm not too surprised. The earliest I've O'd is CD19 with the last 2 cycles of Clomid, so I fully expect the same today. Prior to Clomid, the earliest is CD29. I've been using a different brand of OPKs this month, and they don't appear to be getting close to positive yet either, but I am getting the EGCM again! Yay! DH is working a crazy schedule tonight and won't be home until well after midnight so I don't expect to get in any BDing tonight but hopefully tomorrow we can get some in. I'd like to have as many of those little guys up there waiting for my eggie(s).

I really feel like I have this huge deadline to deal with right now with my insurance, if we're not successful this cycle. And we're cutting things very close. Hopefully I will O sometime soon and will know whether this cycle is successful or not before the deadline of Open Season for enrollment changes ends. This starts tomorrow and ends Nov 12th - the changes would be effective January 1st. If I stay with our current insurance, 50% of infertility is covered. There is another insurance that "claims" it covers 100% of infertility, but is vague on what it covers. And the other insurance is a little over $800 more expensive per year, plus the office visits, prescriptions cost $5-$10 more. And I really really love my doctor & staff. We have a couple of "insurance fairs" where representatives from each company are supposed to answer all our questions - one being this Wednesday. I'm going to go with my list of questions and see what they each cover. The other thing I'm going to try to do is contact Shady Grove Fertility to see if they'll give me some prices on what things cost. They have a website, but don't list prices. I'm not going to call them to compare their prices to other fertility centers, they would be who I'll be using. I hope that if I explain that I need to know so I can make my decision on our insurance they'll give me some prices. I can only ask? If they say No, I'm no further ahead then before. If they say Yes, that'll be a big help. I'm going to start preparing my questions, and will probably post in our main board for some suggestions. Thanks in advance, ladies!!!!

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October 21st, 2008, 06:06 AM
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I got a positive OPK yesterday evening! Yay! So I should be finally Oing anytime now. I'm currently on CD18, and expect to O tomorrow just like the last 2 cycles. My 1st OPK yesterday at 11:00 was VERY close to being a positive, so I tested again later on and it was darker then the control line. Yay! I sometimes get multiple days of positives so I'll test again today as well. Why not?

Tomorrow at lunchtime is the health insurance fair here where I work, so hopefully I can get my answers then and make a decision about our healthcare for 2009. I'll be waiting until this cycle ends, and hopefully it'll be successful and I won't need to worry about switching. (crossing my fingers very tightly here!)
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October 23rd, 2008, 05:30 AM
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I had a big increase in temp this morning! Yay! I think I've finally O'd. I have to wait for 3 days of higher temps to confirm, but I'm pretty sure I did. It's about time, and once again it was on CD19. Once I'm 7DPO, I start taking the progesterone pills and then wait.

We got Mom home from the airport fine last night. Her flight was good, and was only a few minutes behind schedule. She's so exhausted though, and it'll take her a few days to recover. For those who don't know, this is my Mom in law (but I call her Mom too) and she lives here with us for 6 months and then 6 months in Greece each year. It was so good to have her home.

The insurance fair was frustrating yesterday. The companies are supposed to send representatives who know the county health plan and can answer questions about coverage. These 2 ladies didn't know anything about what was covered, and just referred me to either the booklet (which is very vague) or for me to call their Customer Service Center. Grrrrrrr. So, I didn't get any answers yesterday, and now have to find some time where I can close my office door and call them. I haven't told too many people here at work that we're TTC, and don't want them to hear my conversations regarding infertility at this point. I guess I know what I'll be doing during my lunch break today.

I guess that's it for my good news & vent today.
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Sounds like something my company would do....they have us sign up for benefits online and post the booklets online for us to read. This year, they posted a link titled for 2009 Benefits and when you opened the link you got the booklet for 2006 or so. So we told someone and they fixed it. Then you got the booklet for BCBS, and we don't have that. But now that open enrollment is almost over, they finally got it fixed. Enrollment started on the 15th and I just got the info in the mail on Tuesday about it....slow people they are....good luck with your phone calls.....
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October 27th, 2008, 05:22 AM
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I got my CH's on Saturday, so I did O on Wednesday! Yay! This coming Wednesday will be 7DPO so I'll start taking the progesterone pills then. That will be different as they are not taken orally. lol! DH thinks that is SO FUNNY! As long as it works, I'm willing to try it. If we're successful and get pg, then I have to continue taking them for the 1st trimester. My temps are certainly higher this time, but I'm not getting too excited yet as I'm not sure how much the heat has to do with it. We've been turning on the heat at night time lately as it's been getting cool. I don't know if that'll affect temps. It's just a wait & see. I do know that when I've taken progesterone in the past, it has increased my temps so I do expect to see another jump in my chart after Wednesday.

Thanks to Casey, I now have this wonderful list of things to ask the insurance companies regarding their infertility coverage. I got very busy last week and wasn't able to make phone calls so I plan on doing that this week, so that if we're not pg this cycle, I can decide whether we're switching insurance plans or not. Open enrollment ends November 12th, and I'll know by then how this cycle will end. I'm keeping my crossables crossed that we'll get that BFP this cycle and I won't have to worry about switching.
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November 4th, 2008, 12:47 PM
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I'm 13DPO today, but don't really feel too hopeful for this cycle. I need to go into the lab for a blood test tomorrow and will get those results in a day or so. I took a HPT yesterday and it was negative. I didn't bother testing today, and am not sure if I want to tomorrow at this point. I'll probably just wait & see what the blood test comes back as or I may change my mind. I'm allowed to do that, aren't I? I guess the thing that really has me not feeling too hopeful is that I don't really feel different or any symptoms that I consider to be pg related. Yes - I'm tired; feel like I'm fighting a cold, a little dizzy today, emotional at times, and am very bloated and crampy. But all of these can be easily explained as non pg symptoms. Tired - I haven't slept very well after traveling all weekend and I keep waking up at 3:30/4:00 as I'm not used to the time difference yet. Cold - Mom is sick so I probably caught this from her. Dizzy - the cold, lack of sleep, etc. Emotional - just got a little down from the TTC and knowing we're probably going to have to wait another 2 months now for the new insurance. Bloated & crampy - can be side effects from the progesterone. So, I just wait & see at this point.

I did call the insurance company today at lunch time and a very helpful lady answered the phone and my questions. It does appear that this other company covers most of the infertility costs 100%. Wow! That's amazing! There are some limitations if we get into IVF, like no donor eggs or donor sperm is covered, self injected meds may not all be covered, but overall the rest seems to be covered. Yay! This new plan is more expensive then my current plan, but it'll be worth it to get that BFP without having to pay out for the treatments. The only bad thing to this is that we will pretty much have to put TTC on hold until January when this new insurance will kick in. And then I'll have to see my Primary Care Physican before getting a referral to a fertility specialist. So, I've spent the afternoon looking up doctors who take the insurance, are affiliated with the fertility specialist I want to use, and are accepting new patients. I've found one group that looks very promising, and hopefully I can call ahead of time and make an appointment for early January so I don't have to wait any longer then I have to. Yes, I can be very impatient at times!!!

Of course, if I somehow get that surprise BFP then I won't have to worry about all of this!!! Okay, I can still have a small glimmer of hope until the blood test comes back.

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November 14th, 2008, 04:41 AM
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I realized today that I am just now entering our 9th cycle of TTC. So, I've only completed 8 cycles in this past 11 1/2 months. I knew my cycles were long, but for some reason this still surprised me. AF showed in full force for me yesterday - the cramps were so bad and I was much heavier then normal. I know it's from the progesterone pills I was taking, and just hope that AF will ease up some today. I was so exhausted last night - I fell asleep around 8pm. I guess I'll have to see if I can catch my evening shows on the internet. I know some of the stations now post their shows online for viewing. So for lunchtime - I'll be off to see CSI or Grey's Anatomy as I usually alternate watching these 2 shows.

DH & I were talking about our TTC journey last night and we're both looking forward to getting some answers in the new year. We certainly never thought we would be coming up shortly to the 1 year mark of tying and not have one BFP in that time. Wow! With all that has to be lined up perfectly, and the odds so low, how in the world do oops babies happen???? We talked about the clomid, and DH wanted me to contact my doctor to see if he'll prescribe another round of clomid. DH thinks we might as well give it one more shot, even though we've already signed up for the new insurance plan. My doctor before said he'll only do 3 rounds, and that's what his nurse told me last week after the blood/urine test issue. Just in case though, I sent him a short email this morning. Without the clomid, it's hard to say when I'll O as the earliest I've O'd without clomid was CD29. So, we'll see what my doc says. On one hand, I was thinking that giving my body a break would probably be the best thing. On the other hand, I don't like the thought of having to wait until January/February before the process could start up again. With my irregular cycles, I just don't see much of a chance of us getting pg without medical assistance. So, I wait & see at this point. CD5 will be Monday, and that's when I've started my clomid in the past 3 cycles. I'll keep all of you updated.
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November 17th, 2008, 07:58 AM
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I got an email back from my doctor this morning saying he'll do one more round of clomid, followed by a call from his staff. So, I'm off to his office this afternoon for an u/s and then I'll pick up the prescription to start tonight. He always does an u/s to check my cysts as he had a bad experience with another patient years ago. I didn't ask what dosage I'll be taking, and about the progesterone so I'll have to ask him at the appointment. Luckily they had a 1:30 available. So, maybe 4th time will be a charm in my case. I'll update after the appointment.

Okay, got back from the appointment and finished up some things here at work. My cysts were unchanged, so we're going to try one more round of Clomid - 150mg again and he wants me to take the progesterone again starting 7DPO. He's not too optimistic another round will work since the 3 cycles were unsucessful, but he's willing to try. So, we'll see how it goes. I'm on CD5 today, so I'll start taking these tonight.
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November 25th, 2008, 06:49 AM
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Nothing much to add. I'm on CD13 now, and am just waiting to O. I'm thankful (for once) that I don't O around CD14. DH has been sick since Saturday, the poor dear, so no BDing for us right now. Hopefully he'll be feeling better soon, as I expect to O next Monday on CD19. His throat is really hurting him, and I could see white spots in his throat when I looked inside last night. He has a doctor's appointment at 2:00 today. I hope it's not the tonsilitis again. He had that back in July and it took him close to a month and 2 rounds of antibotics to clear it all up. I hope he feels better soon.
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December 1st, 2008, 07:13 AM
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Okay, here I am on CD19 but I'm a little confused. I'm still getting intense O pains but my temp appeared to increase today. That's odd in that usually on O day, my temp stays the same or dips and then increases on 1DPO, and my O pains are not usually this intense. My thermometer decided today to go all wacky on me to, so it's hard to say what my true temp actually is today. It started flashing this morning, and it's beeps were very low, and it gave me 3 temps within minutes of each other, so I used the one in the middle. When I play around with FF and enter in a temp tomorrow that is either higher or lower then today, it gives me CHs on Saturday at CD17. That would be different for me since the past 3 cycles on Clomid, I've O'd on CD19.

If I did O on CD17, then we really only had 1 BDing before O - on Friday morning. We BD during the weekend, but if I'd O'd on Sat it's probably not going to be in time. Oh, well it only takes 1 spermie so I still have a chance!!! Just in case my body did not O yet, I plan on grabbing DH again tonight for BDing.
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December 2nd, 2008, 09:02 AM
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FF gave me dotted CHs today, with Oing on Saturday. I'm still not completely convinced that I O'd on that day, and will see if FF moves those CHs on me. They've done that to me before during several cycles.

And with my thermometer, we stopped by Rite Aid on the way home last night and they no longer sell them or the batteries either. Grrrrr! I didn't have the energy to go back out to CVS, so I'll walk over there today from work and pick one up. I overslept this morning and took my temp an hour later then normal so that with the wacky thermometer made my temp a bit odd. Great timing isn't it???

Since I'm supposed to start taking the progesterone at 7DPO, I wonder if it makes a difference if my O date isn't clear. If I truely O'd on Saturday, this coming Saturday I'll start taking the pills. I wonder if it'll hurt anything if I'm actually 5DPO when I start taking them in case FF is wrong with my O date. I'm going to do some research on this.
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I've gotten really bad about not adding updates to my journal here. Bad Becky! LOL! I'm now on CD41 - 23DPO. No, that's not a typo. With the progesterone it lengthens my LP. I was able to go in for a blood test on Saturday, and it was once again negative. The results were posted Sunday morning so Saturday evening was the last time I took the progesterone. I started spotting Sunday which was odd since the progesterone levels should not have dropped by then with taking the pill the night before. I spotted some yesterday and so far today as well, and my temps are not dropping yet. I'm convinced my body is trying to drive me bonkers!!! I was hoping AF would have shown & be on her way out the door by Christmas. Obviously she has other plans. That darn witch!!! So now I'm waiting for AF to show. Even with expecting the negative, it still hit me hard. Especially with us hitting the 1 year mark now of TTC. I NEVER expected that it would take this long for us to get pg!!! Thankfully the new health insurance kicks in on January 1st so I can look forward to hopefully getting some answers and a plan of action. Yay!!!! I was busy yesterday at lunch, but hopefully will have some time today to call the Fertility Specialist and get an appointment scheduled. I'll keep everyone updated!!!!
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Man it's been a while since I've updated here. And a whole lot has happened. For a short cliff notes version, we switched to the new insurance and are working with a fertility specialist. I've had a whole slew of tests done, and DH had his sperm analysis done. The analysis came back with devastating results - no sperm in the sample. The repeat analysis showed the same. So, DH is now working with a urologist to see what the problem is and if it can be fixed. DH has been such a trooper and will be going in on Feb 25th for a biopsy of his testes. Ouch! He's been okay with it thankfully, as I know many men would be heading for the hills if they knew the doctor wants to put a needle down there. LOL! Thankfully, DH is on board with all of this and is willing to do what it takes to get us those babies. With his spermie issues & my PCOS, we are looking at going straight to IVF and skipping the IUI process. I am currently on the Metformin and so far it's appears to be working for me. I appear to have O'd on Saturday on CD18 - Yay!!! inkcheer: and thankfully the side effects have been minimal. DH is also working more on his general health, getting his cholesterol lowered, and we're both trying to exercise more. A routine physical with my new primary care physician, that included an EKG, found a 5% abnormal reading, and I had a followup Echogram of my heart this past weekend. I'm praying that this comes back all normal as I feel I have enough issues to deal with in our fertility and pray that I don't also have heart issues at the same time. And to add to our general stress level lately, in the midst of all of this, DH was let go at his work and we're in the process of job searching as well as dealing with our multiple health issues. Whew - it's been a crazy few weeks and my head is still spinning at times. I'm taking one day at a time - that's all I know to do, and keeping that smile on my face.

DH is currently at a job interview right now (as I'm typing this LOL) so hopefully he will be back at work shortly. (crossing my crossables very tightly here!!!)
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not much to report but just a quick update on things. My temps started dropping so I expect AF this week. Hopefully she'll wait until Thursday and I'll have the same 11 day LP. If she shows tomorrow, and I'm a bit crampy today so she might, then it'll be a shorter 10 day LP. Either way, we're on hold for another cycle until we determine what is going on with DH's spermies. It's just a little over a week until his biopsy so still keeping everything crossed that we find usable spermies!!!!

With his job hunt, we're still waiting to hear from the other company but it's only been a week since his in person interview so hopefully we're hear something soon. He had another interview yesterday with another company and they also seem very interested. He is finishing the extensive amount of paperwork they gave us to fill out for the background clearance, took his drug test yesterday, and will hopefully get the paperwork submitted to them today. It'll take a few weeks to receive the background clearance, but after that he should hear something from them. They have both full time & part time positions available and he'll be quite happy with either one. He's going bonkers sitting at home. Our poor kitty is too. LOL! She's not used to having him home with her all the time, and he likes to bug her when he gets bored. The poor dear.

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I get so tired of waiting . . . waiting . . . waiting. . . these days. But I'm also afraid of calling the doctors offices and getting the news. If it's as bad as it could be, I know I'm going to be devastated. Until we know for sure, we can still have some hope.

Tony had his biopsy, and we got the results from his lab work. It felt like we were just slammed against a brick wall. Tony was born a genetic condition, an extra chromosome, known as XXY. The doctor was shocked with these results as Tony doesn't have the typical physical characteristics of the condition. He was also very straight forward with us that the chances of us having a biological child from the both of us is very slim. 95-99% of men with this condition are infertile because their bodies don't make sperm. I'm still trying to keep my hopes up. Tony's testosterone levels are normal, but other hormones are out of whack. Hopefully though the biopsy revealed some sperm that can be used for IVF. He still has some pain from the incision, but is feeling a little better each day. The poor dear. He's been handling this all pretty good (probably better then I have been), and brought up us using donor sperm as a possibility. So, for now we just wait and see what our next steps are going to be.

As far as the job front, he starts the part time evening job today so at least he'll be out of the house some. Yay! He was going bonkers sitting at home. And he had an interview yesterday morning that is very promising. I know all of this will work out for the best!!!!
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March 9th, 2009, 04:57 AM
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Trying to keep this updated along with everything else has been very hard lately . . . hopefully things will get a bit easier soon. Work is crazy, just laid off 14 employees last week, and looking at more cuts in July. I really hate this part of my job. DH has a 2nd interview today, so hopefully that'll work out for him. He's been working part-time at the security company and he's been pretty board with it. He's used to a fast paced job, so sitting around is just not the same. But it does keep him occupied & out of the house 2-3 evenings a week. And he's been talking to local colleges close by to see what is needed to start taking classes. His calendar is quite full these days. This week has scheduled for him: today is the interview at 10:00 and working 3-11. Tomorrow is an interview at 2:30. Wednesday morning is the urologist followup at 7:45 and then at 1:30 is orientation for the Patient Care program at one of the local colleges. Thursday at 10:00 is orientation for Phlebotomy program, and working 3-11. Friday is clear (for now) other then working from 3-11, and Saturday is a mandatory CPR class for all programs 9-5. He's busy, busy, busy.

As far as the biopsy, we got the results from the fertility specialist and unfortunately it showed no sperm found. We have the follow up with the urologist on Wednesday morning. Hopefully DH is healing. He still has some pain here & there. I ran out of time last week to call the insurance company, so my goal is to get that done this week. I want to see if they will make an exception and cover the fertility treatments if we use donor sperm. - or maybe cover part of it. So, we'll see . . . our next appointment with the fertility center is March 24th and we'll go over our plans with them at that point.

So that's about it for now. Hopefully we'll have some good news on the job front soon!!!
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