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We finally took away Sofia's pull ups- she was waiting until I put one on her at night to poop. However, I have also been having her go diaper free all night too. I think there has been only 1 night (the first night) where she did not have an accident. I thought she making progress b/c it seemed like she would wake if she peed. But last night, she had no clue that she had an accident. It is a huge pain to take the sheets off and wash blankets, etc. every day. And yes, I do the layering thing, but still, because it is nightly it is a pain!
So, what do I do? Keep up with it? Put her in pull ups? Don't really want to do that b.c she will want to go poop in them too.
IMO there is no such thing as night time training. A bladder will mature when it is ready, plain and simple. I wet the bed all the way until I was 10!!!!! I never woke when I did it either, I just slept that heavily. I truly believe a child's bladder has to be mature enough in order for a child to be night trained, and you can not train a bladder. I think when the time is right it will happen. Kaiya my 5.5 y/o was not night trained until closer to 4 and I never ever pushed the issue. Marleigh night trained instantly, and again I never pushed the issue. I would put her back in a pull up over night, why bang your head against the wall with all that clean up of sheets, the bed, etc? Now, as far as holding poop and waiting till the pull up is on, I have no advice or experience with that.
I agree with Nikki, you just can't train at night time. But with that being said, I totally get where you are coming from, Julia was the SAME way with pooping in the pull up, she'd hold it all day until bedtime when I put her in a pull up. I would put her to bed in undies and when she was sleeping, I'd sneak in and put her in a pull up. It worked for us... maybe something to try?
I agree with Nikki as well. Leah night trained long before she ever day trained because her bladder was physically ready; she just wasn't emotionally ready to use the potty during the day. I have no idea about the pooping in the pullup though. Would a reward system work for her for going on the potty? That's how we finally got Leah. We chose a bigger toy we knew she really wanted and that got her motivated.
I would do the ole switcheroo too, but thats b/c Keller is a super heavy sleeper whne he first falls asleep and I know he wouldn't wake up. When you tell her she is wearing undies to bed, when does she poop - does she go in the potty before bed then?
I do agree that night training is a physical thing and can't always be done by will. That said, we got a bedwetting alarm for my 6yo because I didn't want him to feel embarrassed about wearing pull-ups and I love that he can go to bed in underwear and I never have to change his bedding! That might be something to consider in the future but I wouldn't recommend it yet. I like Christine's switcharoo idea for the pooping issue. If you get that figured out, I wouldn't worry about the wetting yet.
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Cooper was the same way with pooping... it took two weeks of heavy rewards every time he pooped on the potty to get him used to it and now you couldn't pay him to poop in a pull up.
Cooper was the same way with pooping... it took two weeks of heavy rewards every time he pooped on the potty to get him used to it and now you couldn't pay him to poop in a pull up.
We're a long way off from him being dry at night.
Good luck.
What sorts of rewards did you use? Sofia can be motivated by that, but I think it has to be continuous. So last week she pooped on the potty for like 4 days in a row, and so she got to go to Disney store and pick out a toy (Mother Gothel, lol). But then after she got the toy, she didn't want to go in the potty! She wants pull ups, I said no. I told her she could earn something else, I told her if she went I'd give her chocolate- that didn't work. Actually, I might see if bribing her with tomatoes works b/c she loves tomatoes. I am going to laminate a chart today I know that will help.
I will try the switcheroo! I like that idea. I did put her in a pull up last night. Thankfully she didn't poop in it. But she is holding it for days and days. I am giving her fiber gummies as well, and I know she has to go. I really hate this!
I took him to Target with me and let him pick out many things from the $1 bin and also picked up some Tinkerbell toys that he really wanted (thankfully he's mostly outgrown the intense princess phase - but that's another story).
Our deal was that if he pooped on the potty he got to choose something out of his treasure box. But if he pooped in a pull up later on we took the toy back. It may sound incredibly mean but it worked. He had been pooping a little on the potty, but would hold back and wait until he was in a pull up and immediately poop.
It took about a week before he started realizing how much nicer it was and by the time he hit two weeks he didn't ask for treasure box anymore.
Our peditrician recommends not using food as a reward and in this circumstance I agree as we had to have leverage if he pooped later on and we can't take back food once it's eaten.
Cooper takes fiber gummies too. Feel free to message or call me if you want to talk more. We've been through a lot with Cooper and issues with pooping and I know how frustrating it is.
Oh I really like the treasure box idea!!!! I am going to try that.
It definitely worked for us. Hopefully for you too! We used a rubbermaid container that was the "treasure box" and kept it high on a shelf in the bathroom so he could see it and be incentivized. Also, he only got it once a day, regardless of how often he popped on the potty.
We also did something very similar to the treasure box. We hung up 15 presents on the wall that he picked out at the store. and Everytime that he went he got to choose one. (mind you my little stinker would go a little, get up, wipe and then go again 5 mins later. ) So we ended up having to go back to the store and get even more toys. After 2 weeks and him almost having the pooping in the potty down we made a big prize. If he went 10x on the potty he was able to go to a baseball game. It WORKED and he never pooped in his pants after that!
Took a total of 3 weeks and a bit more money then I would like to admit.
Ok, got treasure box things. Of course they want it ALL the time. I was going to do it after a week, but realized they need it daily. Still trying to work it out. I have categories for pooping on the potty, clearing plates after each meal. Do I give a prize only if they do ALL of those things?
I would do treasure box for one thing only. Incentivize what you really want them to focus on. And remind them that they only get it once a day, regardless of how often the go. We had the same issue as Shannon at first.
The thing that really helped Coop was knowing he would have to put his treasure back in the box if he pooped in a pull up at night after going on the potty during the day. That made him not hold anything back for later as he didn't want to lose a toy.
I love the treasure box idea. It took Addy six months to stop holding her poop for a pull up. She still pees at night and isn't making any progress. With Mia we gave her tickets to ride on the carousel because she loved to do that...at first we went to the big one and then started giving her rides at Peter Piper Pizza on a mini carousel.
You could also do buried treasure, buy a bunch dried beans and use them to cover the treasures. This way she could fish around for what she gets, but it is a surprise as the what she pulls out !
We have had poop in the potty for 4 days in a row! They LOVE the treasure box. They also clear their plates now too. It's amazing. Oh, and I have been putting a pull up on Sofia and she is not pooping in it.
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